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Tempora Mutantur posted:How buggy is sperg at this point given its age/if I enjoyed it before should I just switch to ordinator now? I was reading that the biggest issues seem to be the blocking-causing-time-slowdown-forever, the (fixable) slowdown on gaining sneak skill, and apparently that taking the one-handed increased attack speed perks results in a massive attack speed slowdown, any other potential showstoppers? I think Sperg is less likely to give you problems than ordinator.
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There's no reason to play Oldrim unless you're really into weird sex mods. Are you into weird sex mods? You must be if you're still playing Oldrim!
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Sep 29, 2019 23:44
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Fuzz posted:There's no reason to play Oldrim unless you're really into weird sex mods. What about perfectly normal sex mods?
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Sep 29, 2019 23:48
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Skwirl posted:I think Sperg is less likely to give you problems than ordinator.
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Sep 29, 2019 23:51
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Fuzz posted:There's no reason to play Oldrim unless you're really into weird sex mods. Or you're playing on a really old laptop. I tried to run SE once and it just noped the gently caress out.
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Sep 29, 2019 23:58
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Yeah. I'm pretty sure my video card would burst into flames trying to run SE, so Oldrim it is.
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Sep 30, 2019 00:22
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 jeez not sex mods, I only just now read the op that I can get sse for free, after I setup all my mods, goddamnthe shame of oldrim alone may make me redo all this poo poo now, wow e: and apparently since I never bought skyrim til 2017 no SE for me anyway, so on the plus side, no more time spent modding, and on the downside, how dare those fuckers even let me buy the drat thing after SSE came out. ...gonna submit a support ticket anyway to see if I can get a free copy. Tempora Mutantur fucked around with this message at 03:29 on Sep 30, 2019 |
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Sep 30, 2019 03:02
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Tempora Mutantur posted:
And go pick up SkyrimSE when it goes for dirt cheap during a sale somewhere. Also how did you buy it? Oldrim disapeared from the Steam store when SkyrimSE launched.
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Sep 30, 2019 09:19
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https://www.reddit.com/r/skyrimmods/comments/db4md9/a_message_from_halgari_regarding_progress_on/ So much for Wabbajack.
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Sep 30, 2019 13:09
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Why do people spend any amount of time appeasing these impotent morons
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pyro_archvile posted:https://www.reddit.com/r/skyrimmods/comments/db4md9/a_message_from_halgari_regarding_progress_on/ Not like I've been using it myself - I have my install set - but. man.
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GunnerJ posted:Why do people spend any amount of time appeasing these impotent morons Honestly, that's how we got into this dumb mess. People for who modding is just a way to have fun don't want to deal with the bullshit of a culture war over modding. Raygereio fucked around with this message at 14:23 on Sep 30, 2019 |
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Sep 30, 2019 14:16
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Raygereio posted:Because they will not stop shouting, nagging and throwing tantrums until they get their way. lol how hard is it to just ignore them. gently caress are they gonna do post at you?
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Agean90 posted:lol how hard is it to just ignore them. gently caress are they gonna do post at you? There was that Starbound guy that doxxed people who wouldn't join his modpack and tried to tell their family they were pedos. Like Arthmoor's probably petty enough for that.
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Raygereio posted:Honestly, if you have an oldrim setup up and running there's no real point to starting over. Not unless you enjoy the act of modding. With the various available fixes like SKSE's memory fix the performance & stability is fine. Go play and actually have some fun. I'm honestly not sure how I bought it because my steam history only shows the three DLC in 2017, no legendary edition or main Skyrim purchase. I know I didn't buy it outside of steam, and I also didn't buy it till waaay after everyone else did, so not really sure at all. But yeah it's up and running so just gonna enjoy it; of steam support gives me free se tho, I do enjoy modding, and I could use mo2 instead oldmo...
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Agean90 posted:lol how hard is it to just ignore them. gently caress are they gonna do post at you? You're really underestimating how tiresome having to deal with that is. Not everyone is motivated by spite, and when when the hobby you do for fun starts to involve having to delete hatemail, it quickly stops being fun.
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Sep 30, 2019 15:17
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Raygereio posted:Yes. They and their own little fanbase. Saying "just ignore it" is really easy when you're not the one who has the deal these idiots yelling at you. https://mobile.twitter.com/tylerthecreator/status/285670822264307712?lang=en
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Raygereio posted:Yes. They and their own little fanbase. Saying "just ignore it" is really easy when you're not the one who has the deal these idiots yelling at you. It's extremely easy to ignore lmao what are you talking about, I know personally what it's like. The communities are different Minecraft's was quite a bit larger. Suppose being powered by spite was involved but it was mostly because players are more important than modders, and I stand by that to this day 
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quote:The permissions currently in place are: Awesome. What a fun group of people.
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Sep 30, 2019 19:10
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Parlour modding is the bane of efficiency and user friendly systems.
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I hope TES 6 modding is finally free of these little freaks.
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I hope they die!!! 
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Average Bear posted:I hope TES 6 modding is finally free of these little freaks. Your choices will be these guys or paid Bethesda cc mods.
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Orcs and Ostriches posted:Your choices will be these guys or paid Bethesda cc mods. I choose Logic and Reason.
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Sep 30, 2019 20:34
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Orcs and Ostriches posted:Your choices will be these guys or paid Bethesda cc mods. These dudes largely hopped on the paid cc mod train too, it just didn't pan out.
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Sep 30, 2019 20:39
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It's too bad Wrye didn't stick around after Oblivion, he was at least as cantankerous as Arthmoor but he was pro-Cathedral modding.
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Cat Mattress posted:It's too bad Wrye didn't stick around after Oblivion, he was at least as cantankerous as Arthmoor but he was pro-Cathedral modding. I've always figured that Arthmoor et al were the major reason Wrye left.
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Lunchmeat Larry posted:I thought Wrye was alright really? I wonder if Arthmoor ever realizes that the only reason he can still cling to his precious WryeBash was because Wrye was a cool dude who wanted to share stuff with the community and often pushed back against the whole mod-copyright nonsense. Probably not.
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what has arthmoor even done? i looked at the files he's uploaded onto nexus and a lot of them are either added buildings to small villages or textures. paarthurnax dilemma and bug fixes seem like the only major ones out of the 100 that he's uploaded. why doesn't everyone just tell him to gently caress himself?
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Oct 1, 2019 21:44
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Because he's taken over management of the de facto core mod for all Skyrim builds and nobody wants to get in a pissing match with him because no matter what happens, you end up covered in piss.
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Rainbow Knight posted:what has arthmoor even done? i looked at the files he's uploaded onto nexus and a lot of them are either added buildings to small villages or textures. paarthurnax dilemma and bug fixes seem like the only major ones out of the 100 that he's uploaded. why doesn't everyone just tell him to gently caress himself? Literally everyone who mods Skyrim uses his bug fixes. And Open Cities is probably the other major mod. If he abandoned modding I bet things would come out to supplant that (especially the bug fixes, because i'm pretty sure that's a group effort).
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Rainbow Knight posted:what has arthmoor even done? i looked at the files he's uploaded onto nexus and a lot of them are either added buildings to small villages or textures. paarthurnax dilemma and bug fixes seem like the only major ones out of the 100 that he's uploaded. why doesn't everyone just tell him to gently caress himself? He did a visual mod for Oblivion, that prevents things like trees and stuff just suddenly popping into view, while also not bringing your computer to its knees, like some mods of that type do. I use it still, whenever I do a round of "Install Oblivion, mod the poo poo out of it, play for a couple hours, then leave it for like a year".
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got it. so he hasn't done anything important and if he takes his ball and goes home he won't be missed. that was the understanding that this thread has communicated, but i just had to make sure.
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At the extreme end it's basically a grand bluff that if he somehow got the unofficial patches pulled from Nexus, people would not just pirate it, continue development on "unauthorized" forks, etc. in sufficient numbers that things would just keep trucking on without him. Which would change the face of Skyrim modding for the better by breaking the effective Nexus near-monopoly or push Nexus to stop pandering to him and his type.
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How big of a task would it be to reverse engineer the patch mod with novel code to excise him from the one thing that gives him perceived leverage? I imagine the answer is, "quite a bit, especially for a niche hobby project."
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Everyone who uses the unofficial patch has a copy of it all on their computer. There are no hidden parts. You can open them all up in xEdit and/or Creation Kit.
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GunnerJ posted:Everyone who uses the unofficial patch has a copy of it all on their computer. There are no hidden parts. You can open them all up in xEdit and/or Creation Kit. Yeah, but recreating it without copying any of it would be a pretty huge task.
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Skwirl posted:Yeah, but recreating it without copying any of it would be a pretty huge task. So copy it anyway, what is someone going to do call the police? How many ways can you bug fix things and is that even sometimes that can be owned as a concept?
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Yeah what I'm basically saying is that if he for real tried to take his ball home with him, lots of people would suddenly be much less likely to give a poo poo about the set of bullshit Nexus-backed gentlemen's agreements that constitute "mod author's rights" including whatever courtesy version of completely unenforceable copyright they're currently respecting. But since no one really wants to take that step and he hasn't really forced anyone to, he can bluster and holler until he gets his way and the status quo rumbles on.
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