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The Duggler posted:You won't get a decent video card for under $100 dollars My eyes do roll. I don't care about even 1080p gaming here. We are talking like few year old games. I don't care if it can push 40+ FPS on BF4 or something.
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May 15, 2014 23:56
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Maybe a 560Ti would be a good choice? You're probably in good graces with a lot of goons, maybe somebody can offer their old card to you for cheap.
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May 16, 2014 00:00
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ShaneB posted:My eyes do roll. I don't care about even 1080p gaming here. We are talking like few year old games. I don't care if it can push 40+ FPS on BF4 or something. Also, saying you want to play "newish" games that are "a few years old" is contradictory.
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May 16, 2014 00:00
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This looks like a good thread for you: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3634293
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May 16, 2014 00:03
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DrDork posted:Then just get the highest-numbered Radeon or GeForce card (depending on your preference) you can find for a price you're happy with. Radeons are generally better in the price:performance metrics at virtually every price point, but not enormously so. Depends on your definition of newish, I guess?  He can probably just keep using his 5XXX series AMD card but that seems cruel.fletcher posted:This looks like a good thread for you: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3634293 Thanks for this. ShaneB fucked around with this message at 00:06 on May 16, 2014 |
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May 16, 2014 00:04
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fletcher posted:This looks like a good thread for you: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3634293 Such regret
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May 16, 2014 00:39
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DrDork posted:Then just get the highest-numbered Radeon or GeForce card (depending on your preference) you can find for a price you're happy with. Radeons are generally better in the price:performance metrics at virtually every price point, but not enormously so. For what it's worth, entry level Geforce cards are literally garbage. Nvidia doesn't even try to be competitive in that range.
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May 16, 2014 01:22
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Same guy who was selling those 290's on the previous page has put up a bunch of 270x's: http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ipg=&_from=&_ssn=fdcdeals&_sop=10
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May 16, 2014 02:36
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Don Lapre posted:Such regret I keep looking at this and feeling bad http://www.ebay.com/itm/Litecoin-SC...=item35d4d8e492 I mean, I hope they made money... I guess
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May 16, 2014 05:14
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Ignoarints posted:I keep looking at this and feeling bad http://www.ebay.com/itm/Litecoin-SC...=item35d4d8e492 I hate it when people dont put backplates on the loving motherboards.
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May 16, 2014 05:55
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That setup looks so bottom dollar I wonder how much the initial hard cost was.
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May 16, 2014 06:06
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Shaocaholica posted:That setup looks so bottom dollar I wonder how much the initial hard cost was. Auction says a million dollars.
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May 16, 2014 06:13
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How much longer do I need to wait for next Nvidia WHQL drivers that would include the performance benefits of the April's beta version? I'm not so keen on using beta drivers.
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May 16, 2014 08:31
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Rosoboronexport posted:How much longer do I need to wait for next Nvidia WHQL drivers that would include the performance benefits of the April's beta version? I'm not so keen on using beta drivers. Unknown, as the Titan Z might be holding back drivers so it's anyone's guess when nVidia will release WHQL-certified ones. New beta drivers (337.81) were released just yesterday, though.
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May 16, 2014 10:24
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On the Gigabyte website they recommend a 600W PSU for the 780ti GHz Edition. Do they mean your whole system needs at least a 600W PSU? Or that the card itself will consume 600W? Edit: I have this PSU http://www.silverstonetek.com/product.php?pid=363
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May 16, 2014 13:22
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The card is rated for 250. The rest of your system will bring that close to 400. (When it's idle, of course, everything on your desk aside from lamps will add up to well under 100W.) For efficiency's sake you'd be looking in the 550~650W section of the build thread's OP. Normally power supply ratings are hyperbolic, because graphics card sellers don't want to take the hit when someone's card stopped working because their Diablotek power supply lived down to its name and well-deserved ill reputation. This time it just happens to be close to accurate. EDIT: That one should be fine.
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May 16, 2014 13:26
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Rosoboronexport posted:How much longer do I need to wait for next Nvidia WHQL drivers that would include the performance benefits of the April's beta version? I'm not so keen on using beta drivers. Just use the betas, they're fine.
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May 16, 2014 13:31
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Welmu posted:Unknown, as the Titan Z might be holding back drivers so it's anyone's guess when nVidia will release WHQL-certified ones. Where can I get these? Not up on nVidia's driver search or anything. Are they a Win8 specific branch or something? I'm still using Windows 7 x64 because the audio industry drags rear end in supporting new OSes for some fairly solid but still frustrating reasons.
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May 16, 2014 14:28
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Guru3D offfers them for download: http://www.guru3d.com/files_details/download_nvidia_geforce_337_81_beta_driver.html
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May 16, 2014 14:35
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Rosoboronexport posted:How much longer do I need to wait for next Nvidia WHQL drivers that would include the performance benefits of the April's beta version? I'm not so keen on using beta drivers. No time because you should use beta drivers. It's not like a beta bios or something.
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Oh, duh, it's just been so damned long since I had to go off the reservation for anything I forget where the old sources are. Heh. Which puzzles me, too - few days back, weird release notes, no driver; now, a driver, with no finalized release notes. Barebones info, sure, but "working on" the finished notes. I guess that's why it's not up on Experience or on their site? Either way, I'm going to wait for the full release notes before installing, as I don't run SLI and everything is nice and stable for me at the moment. Word seems to be that people are finding it continues the DirectX/D3D optimizations and extends it further. AMD's Mantle has been pretty stellar for the industry in terms of just putting a boot up the rear end of everyone not trying hard enough, at least; which, I think, is mirrored in nVidia's G-Sync tech. Though of the two of them, I figure in the final analysis it'll be AMD who gets more people actually using the wholly proprietary technology, since it's free if you've got the right card. Getting thorough vblank control implemented into the DP standard in a more official capacity is probably a better way to go than having to stick a FPGA off into some special monitor, I'm going to guess the solution that appears free to consumers will win versus the complicated and pricy one (even though companies will need to spend money make it work as well as G-Sync works, another addition to the amazingly huge driver packages we have these days - anyone remember when drivers were like 8MB? Hahaha). I haven't been active in this thread lately because there just hasn't been much to talk about, by the by - business as usual makes for boring conversation, and I haven't seen anything in rendering lately that's just blowing me away either. A lot of the heavy-duty AAA games these days seem to be in one way or another CPU bound, which is great, we know that problem, everyone's working on that problem, but it's not really worth talking about; yeah, Thief is great and interestingly enough system memory bandwidth bound, of all the things, but stick 1600MHz effective or greater into your rig and you'll be fine. The underlying issue is sure interesting, but the solution is so rote that it isn't all that fun to talk about, y'know? Agreed fucked around with this message at 16:12 on May 16, 2014 |
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May 16, 2014 16:07
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Agreed posted:I haven't seen anything in rendering lately that's just blowing me away either. Yeah, where's our everything ray-traced at 60+FPS capable hardware?
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HalloKitty posted:Yeah, where's our everything ray-traced at 60+FPS capable hardware? It's coming(tm).
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Agreed posted:Oh, duh, it's just been so damned long since I had to go off the reservation for anything I forget where the old sources are. Heh. Which puzzles me, too - few days back, weird release notes, no driver; now, a driver, with no finalized release notes. Barebones info, sure, but "working on" the finished notes. I guess that's why it's not up on Experience or on their site? Either way, I'm going to wait for the full release notes before installing, as I don't run SLI and everything is nice and stable for me at the moment. I think because it's such a limited hotfix for Dell 4K monitors or whatever that is otherwise identical to the current betas, they figure people with the issue will go looking for it and don't need more documentation.
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ShaneB posted:My eyes do roll. I don't care about even 1080p gaming here. We are talking like few year old games. I don't care if it can push 40+ FPS on BF4 or something. if you don't mind refurbed http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121642R or http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202107
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Dilbert As gently caress posted:if you don't mind refurbed Good idea.
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Is $310 a good deal on a 290x used for mining? It's Sapphire and it looks like no transferable warranty.
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May 17, 2014 07:01
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A good deal? lol yes, however, I'm sure you know the risk here.
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May 17, 2014 19:23
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Ignoarints posted:A good deal? lol yes, however, I'm sure you know the risk here. Yeah exactly. I know its a good deal price wise but after thinking more about it I'll probably go with a regular MSI 290 with a warranty.
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Strategy posted:Yeah exactly. I know its a good deal price wise but after thinking more about it I'll probably go with a regular MSI 290 with a warranty. Unless you plan on waterblocking it or something, there's literally no reason to get a reference 290X instead of a 3rd-party 290.
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Do you guys remove your old drivers before installing new ones? If so, what should I use to wipe out the remnants that get leftover?
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I do not, I just check clean installation (if that actually makes a difference, I don't know). I'd like to know though because I have to reinstall drivers every single time I change my GPU configuration (does not like going from sli to single and vice versa) which is something like 8 times already this year, so I'm probably a good candidate for it. However it always seemed like a major pain in the rear end
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Does anyone have any impressions they can share about Nvidia shadowplay? I'm just curious if there are any drawbacks as well as how easy it would be to stream to Twitch with it.
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My connection is too poor to stream, but the recording itself is fantastic. I've not noticed any FPS hit (on a 780 ti to be fair). Seems like around 2%. High quality recordings that have the option of adding your microphone on top. The only issue I would bring up is that Shadowplay records with a variable frame rate, which throws many editing programs for a loop. I believe Sony Vegas can handle it, but I just use AVI Demux (which is free) to do bare-bones editing stuff. You have the option to manually record or just hit a button and automatically save the last X minutes of gameplay. Here's an example video I recently posted to Youtube for a buddy I play BF4 with who was wondering the same stuff. I turned my mic off for this recording so it was just the dude I was playing with: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqsXfbannfo
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Eonwe posted:Does anyone have any impressions they can share about Nvidia shadowplay? I'm just curious if there are any drawbacks as well as how easy it would be to stream to Twitch with it. It absolutely kicks rear end and is like nothing else I've ever used. The impact on performance is incredibly low. The DVR like function is kick rear end. 5 fps drop for me at best
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Ignoarints posted:It absolutely kicks rear end and is like nothing else I've ever used. The impact on performance is incredibly low. The DVR like function is kick rear end. 5 fps drop for me at best I've used it a bit on Planetside 2 and I did detect a performance hit with it just running (780ti), not broadcasting but it just doing it's auto-record thing. It was very minimal and only noticed it when it was turned off upon updating my drivers. I don't actually make youtubes or twitch stream so it was pointless to me. However, Ignoarints is right. It's totally unlike any other streaming option as it Just Works™.
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Every so often I would find that it's not working when I start a game, which then requires me to quit both the game and use GeForce Experience to turn it off/on again to get it to work, but when it's working, it's great. Though I wish it was smarter about what audio it records - the option for "game only" is actually "everything except microphone" - so if you're using Vent or something at the same time, it'll also record the stuff coming through that.
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^^^ There are tricks to get around that iirc.Eonwe posted:Does anyone have any impressions they can share about Nvidia shadowplay? I'm just curious if there are any drawbacks as well as how easy it would be to stream to Twitch with it. It's (mostly) great for local recordings, but it's only decent for streaming. Shadowplay is very dependent on high bitrates to look good, which is problematic since you're never going to go above 3.5Mbps when using Twitch. For streaming at 30FPS, this isn't too much of a problem, but still doesn't look nearly as sharp as something like OBS. But for streaming at 60FPS, it can go from looking kinda not great, down to looking downright ugly, depending on the game. Also, since Shadowplay depends on high bitrates for it's local recordings, you'll need to re-encode them at a lower bitrate so that Youtube doesn't murder your file. Steaming with it also has it's own share of limitations, such as (but not limited to) not having a press-to-talk option, only being able to stream in fullscreen (though you can stream your desktop now, so it's not DX limited), and few options to adjust the quality of your stream besides picking your resolution and a bitrate slider. Shadowplay is still more than ideal if you're CPU limited at all, and the quality degradation is arguably subjective depending on your expectations. I would say that it shines the most when it comes to streaming/recording emulators (PCSX2/Dolphin) and CPU-heavy games that are currently out at 60FPS. Anything that doesn't heavily tax your CPU, however, is probably better paired up with dxtory/OBS. With all that said, I should also mention that Shadowplay is extremely simple to set up, and if you just stream something on a whim it takes literally no effort at all to do. For most users, this is all it needs to be, and that's fine IMO. Hace fucked around with this message at 22:48 on May 18, 2014 |
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Woops I was probably over enthusiastic. I don't know anything about streaming (or frankly, what its for) and it's performance. And the audio thing is weird about voip (one sided convos recorded) but I'll look up workarounds since Hace mentioned it But I mean overall, Shadowplay was very unexpected and cool. I was more accustomed to the performance hit from fraps and related things so this blew me away.
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