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Baron von Eevl posted:I think that was kind of a thing with James at first; I know with the first reunion tour it was just the albums he played on, and I think the next tour the only song from the Jamesless years was Tiberius. Is there anything Tool can't manage to make worse somehow?
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Corgan says something reasonable for a change: https://www.loudersound.com/news/sm...ion-and-suicide quote:Smashing Pumpkins' Billy Corgan attacks music industry "exploitation": "Think of all the people my generation has lost to addiction and suicide"
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I'd never heard this before today, and apparently it's from the Zeitgeist sessions? What the gently caress is this doing NOT on that album?!  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0qPkAVq_TM
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If someone remixed the vocals that would actually be a good song yeah.
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There's a version of zeitgeist on youtube with all bonus tracks and the vocals mixed lower. It's still not a very good album.
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Speaking of Zeitgeist, what's the reason why that one (or any of the singles) are not on Spotify? Is he blocking it out of spite like Zwan or is it a thing with the label (Reprise?) Spotify makes me regret my CD purge and letting go of Judas O.
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hatelull posted:Speaking of Zeitgeist, what's the reason why that one (or any of the singles) are not on Spotify? Is he blocking it out of spite like Zwan or is it a thing with the label (Reprise?) I think it's literally Billy responding to everyone saying it sucked. I think there's some spite there, yeah. I could have the story wrong. I remember when he used to answer questions on Instagram, and someone asked about it, phrasing it like 'hey, you should put Zeitgeist up for streaming!' and he responded with "people should stop loving telling me what to do" but a bit more diplomatically. Anyway, I'm pretty sure one of the questions was about why it wasn't on there and I think his answer was' no one liked it'.
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I mean, if we're gonna go that far I question the existence of Monuments to an Elegy on that service. Zwan is absent just to spite the other band members that were not Chamberlain right? I didn't hate that album honestly.
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in the grand scheme of SP's ability to write bad music, Zeitgiest is really not that bad
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hatelull posted:I mean, if we're gonna go that far I question the existence of Monuments to an Elegy on that service. In typical billy fashion the best zwan song (spilled milk) isn't on any album and was never properly recorded.
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Seaniqua posted:in the grand scheme of SP's ability to write bad music, Zeitgiest is really not that bad Completely agreed. I haven't even listened to all of Cyr, completely forgot it was an album until just now.
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I have a soft spot for Zeitgeist but that’s because I was finally old enough to buy albums without my parents permission and I had always liked what I from them on much music. I think it’s still great to this day. Has some issues, but it’s far more interesting than Monuments.
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The Black Stones posted:I have a soft spot for Zeitgeist but that’s because I was finally old enough to buy albums without my parents permission and I had always liked what I from them on much music.   Also, I legitimately enjoy United States, and the opening drum riff of Doomsday Clock is pretty much in my head all the time.
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I first saw them live after driving 12 hours to see them in Vancouver on their zeitgeist tour, because I wasn’t old enough to travel before they broke up in 2000. I knew it wast the best comeback album but I still listened to it a lot because drat it, I wanted it to be good. I still sometimes wear the t shirt from that tour when im being lazy around the house e: Zwan was good, actually. Silvery Sometimes kinda sounds like a zwan song imo polyester concept fucked around with this message at 19:52 on Sep 27, 2022 |
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Listened to the podcast to hear the new track. I liked it way more than Beguiled. Had a lot more going on for it.
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Zwan was good and MSotS is very good, some of Jimmy's best playing. Zeitgeist is bad, although about 1/3 of the songs are good. I actually like the boomy, roomy, slightly distorted drums on the album, but the vocals are obviously too loud and a bit too present, and it's let down by the other 2/3 of the songs singing like extremely weak rehashes of the good songs. Needs more variety in songwriting, texture, keys, and dynamics. Put a dang acoustic guitar on there, Billy, and cut it out with the angular open string riffs in c#.
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So, this tour starts soon and I think we have the second date. News just dropped that Navarro is not making these dates, due to long term COVID complications. Troy Van Leeuwen is filling the spot. Anyone have predictions on this Pumpkins set? I'm assuming Jane's will just play the classics and likely not dip too far beyond that single from Strays. I feel like Corgan is gonna split the difference between obvious singles and new stuff we've never heard because he's Billy Corgan and maybe an exciting deep cut.
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That sucks about Navarro - was really looking forward to him playing.
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Vintersorg posted:That sucks about Navarro - was really looking forward to him playing. Same. Farrell's vocals might have gone to poo poo but Navarro would still be cool to see.
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What is 'that single' from Strays? The theme to that rich guy show? Entourage?
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The only one I know is "Just Because" ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sb3FJdRk-tI
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Trip Report? So I didn't hate that. In terms of set lists, it was heavy on later material but dude DOES have a new releases imminent. Plus, he already went deep in the nostalgia on that last major tour. Nothing from Gish was surprising. "We Only Come Out at Night" was probably the deepest cut from left field, even more bizarre that it shows up like three songs in to a twenty song show. Chamberlain is a beast. "Silverfuck" was a super pleasant surprise and is still as blistering as ever. He pulls out a bizarro "Once in a Lifetime" cover that owes more to Sabbath than post-punk. That was definitely a thing. "Beguiled" was goofy as hell since it got played live while that ridiculous video plays in the background with eerie precision. Still, I feel like Houston got shafted. Opening show was in Dallas, and they got "If There Was a God" and "X.Y.U" to close out the show. He just ended with a new mostly unfamiliar track here. We missed a chunk of the Jane's Addiction set. Caught a really tasty "Ted, Just Admit It" though. They had exotic dancers writhing and dancing for most of their set. We felt cheated that Corgan didn't bring out wrestlers to taunt the crowd. hatelull fucked around with this message at 15:16 on Oct 4, 2022 |
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I saw a video of SP playing some time around the Teargarden era and Billy played Disarm solo acoustic and had a pro wrestler come out and interrupt the song so Billy hit him over the head with the guitar. Imagine being in the audience for that bullshit.
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hatelull posted:Trip Report? What's the merch situation like?
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Baron von Eevl posted:I saw a video of SP playing some time around the Teargarden era and Billy played Disarm solo acoustic and had a pro wrestler come out and interrupt the song so Billy hit him over the head with the guitar. Imagine being in the audience for that bullshit. Ha! They DID do a quasi-acoustic "Disarm." Mostly just James and Billy, with some backing stuff. As far as clean acoustic goes, the mid-set acoustic "Tonight, Tonight" was sublime. There is so much keyboard in the late era material I'm super puzzled as to why they don't have someone playing those parts live. Maybe Schroeder is doing it through filters? There wasn't a large amount of bullshit for a Pumpkins show. Standard awkward as gently caress banter, Billy doing his gothy dancing "Cyr" is what if Nosferatu went vegan and started a gothy synth pop band, and a huge chunk of the crowd getting the gently caress out of dodge after they play "1979." At one point they were pushing the crowd into a singalong at the end of "Eye" of all things. REALLY wanted everyone to lean into some "woooaaahs" e: REPLY Vintersorg posted:What's the merch situation like? Tour t-shirts with art work that reminded me a lot of the graphic aesthetic off CYR and Shiny .. and I think they're doing some limited edition tour posters. I didn't see anyone carrying vinyl. hatelull fucked around with this message at 16:02 on Oct 4, 2022 |
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Vintersorg posted:What's the merch situation like? There's some photos of merch from this weekend here: https://www.reddit.com/r/SmashingPumpkins/comments/xu68ns/ill_try_to_get_better_pictures_but_here_is_what_i/
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The Janes setlist looks really drat solid - although they only played Ocean Size at the first date. Hope we get that in NYC. gently caress - I am beyond excited.
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To Sheila came on shuffle today unexpectedly and I forgot how beautiful that song is. I don’t necessarily wish he would make a return to the heavy grunge sound of siamese dream or mellon collie, but god drat, what happened billy. why can’t you make em like you used to
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polyester concept posted:To Sheila came on shuffle today unexpectedly and I forgot how beautiful that song is. I don’t necessarily wish he would make a return to the heavy grunge sound of siamese dream or mellon collie, but god drat, what happened billy. why can’t you make em like you used to Yeah, I didn't fully appreciate Adore back in the day, which is the coldest take of course, but WOW do I miss it now. Except Shame. Still don't like that one. But To Shiela was always a wonderful one, my favourite even when the album wasn't working for me.
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Oh hey it turns out my buddy designed posters for two of the shows on this tour. I guess they gave him a couple boxes of prints so he's gonna give me one of each.
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lol https://thehardtimes.net/music/smashing-pumpkins-announce-reunion-with-original-billy-corgan/
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I mean, I'd prefer that over him dancing for the drum solo lol
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I liked this interview. I think Billy has found his chill.
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Becoming a dad was really the best thing for him mentally in the last decade
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I'm at the sp show rn and Jane's addiction is the opener and it's loving awfulllllk
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BraveUlysses posted:I'm at the sp show rn and Jane's addiction is the opener and it's loving awfulllllk How many actual members of Jane's addiction are actually left in the band now? From memory Eric Avery quit three seconds after they reformed, Perry Farrell got injured during the first song, and didn't Navarro say something about quitting as well?
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Kingo Ligma posted:How many actual members of Jane's addiction are actually left in the band now? From memory Eric Avery quit three seconds after they reformed, Perry Farrell got injured during the first song, and didn't Navarro say something about quitting as well? Dave's still out with long covid, isn't he? I thought Eric was still in it?
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Once in a lifetime cover oh my god m8 what is this
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