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xtal posted:There's absolutely no way that they're going to attack Canadian health care. That is the only reason anybody stays in this shithole country. So if they are going to mess with it, we might as well all go to America and get the whole flavour instead of Diet Trump. However, we need to be here for them to rent-seek us. This is a career-limiting move, like a drug dealer serving fentanyl. Drug dealers purposefully lace stuff with fentanyl to tell other drug users that they have the good stuff and to come buy from them. It's a business-saavy move that actually doesn't mean a lot because meth is cheaper than bottled water in this country right now. enki42 posted:I'd toxx myself for this gladly. Conservatives will make healthcare lovely and defund it, but it's still way too much of a sacred cow, especially considering the elderly voting bloc is huge and not going to be in support of it. We have user fees and contracted-private clinics already. Healthcare in this country has been suffering the death of a thousand-cuts for over 30 years and it's just a matter of time before a Con steps up and tells everyone state-funded healthcare doesn't work and we need more options.
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We're going to eliminate hallway medicine by selling off the hallways.
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So if we lose healthcare you’ll leave? Hurry the gently caress up I say.
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DariusLikewise posted:We have user fees and contracted-private clinics already. Healthcare in this country has been suffering the death of a thousand-cuts for over 30 years and it's just a matter of time before a Con steps up and tells everyone state-funded healthcare doesn't work and we need more options. I'm going to claim ignorance since I'm only really familiar with Ontario's system, but what province has user fees for health care? I suppose it's there for supplementary things like ambulances and upgraded rooms, etc. In terms of private clinics, do you mean a place where people pay out of pocket for healthcare? Obviously private clinics exist since the whole system (again at least in Ontario) is set up as private providers with a public insurance system, but I'm not aware of any way that you can pay for things OHIP covers if you want to.
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A lot of opioid users specifically want fent so it's not necessarily a bad thing if a dealer is slinging fent, as long as they are not knowingly misrepresenting the composition of what it is they're selling
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enki42 posted:I'm going to claim ignorance since I'm only really familiar with Ontario's system, but what province has user fees for health care? I suppose it's there for supplementary things like ambulances and upgraded rooms, etc. Ambulance fees is one. Quebec tried adding accessory fees to it's healthcare in 2016 which was thankfully repealed. Saskatchewan and Manitoba are allowing Private MRI clinics to be run(which allow you to queue jump for a fee) which is being allowed by the Federal Liberals(they have the power to clawback any collected fees from the healthcare transfer to provinces). Hell in BC they had the MSP fee separated out for years and Brian Day just won an injunction to continue running his private clinics. The main threat is Two-Tier, user fees, queue jumping and private insurance are all things that are working their way through the Conservative think-tanks in this country as ways to become more "fiscally responsible" and cut taxes further. Nothing is a a sacred-cow if our Federal Conservative party continues it's rightward shift.
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Dec 18, 2018 00:10
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Slinging fent - not necessarily a bad thing
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Kraftwerk posted:Man what the gently caress Canada?  depending on the upcoming changes to ODSP (and possibly Trillium/Ontario Drug Benefit) I might lose my access to healthcare much much sooner 
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cougar cub posted:Slinging fent - not necessarily a bad thing I like how this was the main takeaway from my post... The microeconomics of a junkie seeking out fentanyl for its potency may disagree with the macroeconomics of them dying more than in wartime, but that was still just an example.
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cougar cub posted:Slinging fent - not necessarily a bad thing people literally die from withdrawals
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THC posted:people literally die from withdrawals Not on opiods. Paging moist
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you can die, rare I suppose, but I guess my point is if you're dope sick you feel like you're going to die and you actually need more dope. and it's not like the government is handing out clean junk outside of a couple trials here and there. most dope dealers are just trying to sustain themselves by fulfilling a demand in a marketplace. its not like they're rubbing their hands together in their dope palace scheming to murder people with fent
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cowofwar posted:Saudi Arabi genocides a country snd JT doesn’t give a gently caress. They kill one journalist and now apparently that is too far. A single person is a lot more photogenic (and, unfortunately, more resonant a subject) than a million dead Yemenis
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PT6A posted:Read closer. There's a difference between radicalized and racialized even if the words do admittedly look rather similar. Well now I feel foolish. 
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Dec 18, 2018 01:56
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oh edmonton https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovnJKJg89zU
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That guy looks like he is ready to join ISIS the moment they ask.
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Entorwellian posted:That guy looks like he is ready to join ISIS the moment they ask. I was thinking more "Shut up, Wesley." but either way. Also I saw a brief clip of notorious Canadian MRA Roosh V and it looks like he's converted to Salafism, which is convenient since he doesn't have to change his rhetoric at all.
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Seldom has a thumbnail so thoroughly discouraged me from watching a video.
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THC posted:you can die, rare I suppose, but I guess my point is if you're dope sick you feel like you're going to die and you actually need more dope. and it's not like the government is handing out clean junk outside of a couple trials here and there. most dope dealers are just trying to sustain themselves by fulfilling a demand in a marketplace. its not like they're rubbing their hands together in their dope palace scheming to murder people with fent It’s not murder, it’s just callous disregard for life. A hypothetical dealer who was fastidious about mixing product accurately and giving customers dosing information would be one thing, but anyone working with street fentanyl pretty much has to know their customers are playing Russian roulette every time they use. Yet another reason for the full legalization of all drugs.
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THC posted:most dope dealers are just trying to sustain themselves by fulfilling a demand in a marketplace. its not like they're rubbing their hands together in their dope palace scheming to murder people with fent I guess we shouldn't ticket or jail drivers who text and drive either, they're just trying to go about their day more efficiently and it's not like they're intentionally trying to kill people
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TheKingofSprings posted:I guess we shouldn't ticket or jail drivers who text and drive either, they're just trying to go about their day more efficiently and it's not like they're intentionally trying to kill people You don't get withdrawals from not texting and driving
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enki42 posted:I'm going to claim ignorance since I'm only really familiar with Ontario's system, but what province has user fees for health care? I suppose it's there for supplementary things like ambulances and upgraded rooms, etc. Ambulances are not a supplementary feature of a healthcare system. It's pretty hosed up that if you need one you already have to pay. That's already a mandatory user fee for a pretty essential part of healthcare.
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maybe we should ticket car dealers who sell cars to people who drive recklessly... on a track, thereby risking only their own life and nobody else's
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flakeloaf posted:The Thunder Bay Police, who are being called racist for acting in a racist way towards people who agree that the Thunder Bay Police are racist, insist that they aren't racist and that everything would be okay if they had more money. https://twitter.com/dril/status/749438005706883072
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THC posted:you can die, rare I suppose, but I guess my point is if you're dope sick you feel like you're going to die and you actually need more dope. and it's not like the government is handing out clean junk outside of a couple trials here and there. most dope dealers are just trying to sustain themselves by fulfilling a demand in a marketplace. its not like they're rubbing their hands together in their dope palace scheming to murder people with fent won't someone think of those poor fentanyl entrepreneurs struggling to get by while doing god's work 
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cougar cub posted:won't someone think of those poor fentanyl entrepreneurs struggling to get by while doing god's work How would BC's economy even exist without fentanyl?
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enki42 posted:I'm going to claim ignorance since I'm only really familiar with Ontario's system, but what province has user fees for health care? I suppose it's there for supplementary things like ambulances and upgraded rooms, etc. Well, doctors being the entrepeurneral business owners they are, have come up with all kinds of ways to nickle and dime people. One way I can think of in Ontario is fees for filling out forms. Anything work related, like disability, sick notes, hell, some doctors will even charge you for faxes and copies. They're just struggling to get by, after all.
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I thought sick notes took up office hours the province didn't pay for, and they provide no useful benefit approximately 100% of the time
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wcb forms and the like. you wind up being an unpaid middle-man between what nominally should two parts of the government for no particular reason.
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K yeah that's stupid.
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RBC posted:Well, doctors being the entrepeurneral business owners they are, have come up with all kinds of ways to nickle and dime people. One way I can think of in Ontario is fees for filling out forms. Anything work related, like disability, sick notes, hell, some doctors will even charge you for faxes and copies. They're just struggling to get by, after all. It's only cause of this gosh darn socialized medicine restricting how much doctors can make. If we had a FREE MARKET system doctors could survive.
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https://twitter.com/CBCAlerts/status/1075069389521780737 Well this should be interesting. https://twitter.com/robertbenzie/status/1075069999079981056 Doug has a long history of poo poo talking the police when he fancies it, so this too should be interesting. infernal machines fucked around with this message at 22:25 on Dec 18, 2018 |
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The OPC is really pushing whatever methods they can to gently caress over cannabis retail as much as possible. Just 25 licenses will be made available based on a lottery, guaranteeing that winners will get subsumed by the biggest companies who will leverage their early mover position to lock out later competitors. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/ontario-cannabis-private-retail-1.4945786
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Somebody in the thread asked about the status of those "terrorists" in BC who wanted to bomb the BC Legislature with pressure cooker bombs. The original case was stayed but appealed by the Crown. The decision will be announced tomorrow. I'd forgotten some of this stuff and it's great: quote:But as Bruce pointed out, the couple's ideas were "unrealistic, unfeasible and grandiose" — they talked about hijacking a nuclear submarine, taking the world hostage and building rockets to free Palestine.
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How else do you expect RCMP to earn enough to afford a house, boat and a jet ski in Kelowna? That overtime had to be booked to something.
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Chicken posted:Somebody in the thread asked about the status of those "terrorists" in BC who wanted to bomb the BC Legislature with pressure cooker bombs. The original case was stayed but appealed by the Crown. The decision will be announced tomorrow. If there was any just god this would be a Cohen brothers movie
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apatheticman posted:If there was any just god this would be a Cohen brothers movie They have to have considered it, there's just no way. "Like Bowfinger, but it's a stoned couple, and instead of movie producers they're cops under pressure to justify their existence"
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Place your bets: What will today's announcement from Christine Elliot and the Minister of Health contain? Difficulty: No questions will be allowed after the announcement Also,  2-way all day GO service and Metrolinx rail electrification. Of course it's the suburbs and exurbs getting hosed here, but whatever, they can just sit in traffic for four hours a day to commute to their new greenbelt homes.
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infernal machines posted:Place your bets: What will today's announcement from Christine Elliot and the Minister of Health contain? Of note: it’s not being made Friday at 4:55 PM This could equally mean that it’s not that significant or that they desperately want to try and take the focus off of the Taverner affair and Ford picking a fight with Blair.
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infernal machines posted:Place your bets: What will today's announcement from Christine Elliot and the Minister of Health contain? Funding bump for Sick Kids hospital, conditional on their relocation to Etibocoke.
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