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Katt
Nov 14, 2017

Swedish Corona infected people up 1100% in a week. At this rate we will have 19 million cases within the next 2 months.


One of the cases was kilometres from my work.


Zero cases of Corona in North Korea and Cuba. Communism blocks viral agents. We should have listened.

Katt fucked around with this message at 08:23 on Feb 29, 2020

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netcat
Apr 29, 2008
I've been banished from work for two weeks since I've been to Japan. Feels good man

Katt
Nov 14, 2017

netcat posted:

I've been banished from work for two weeks since I've been to Japan. Feels good man

You should remind them that the new incubation estimate is 27 days

Dirk Pitt
Sep 14, 2007

haha yes, this feels good

Toilet Rascal

Katt posted:

Swedish Corona infected people up 1100% in a week. At this rate we will have 19 million cases within the next 2 months.


One of the cases was kilometres from my work.


Zero cases of Corona in North Korea and Cuba. Communism blocks viral agents. We should have listened.

I’m all about THE STRUGGLE, and will be voting for Sanders in 2020, but surely you joke. With rumors like this flowing around it is insane to turn it into a North Koreans are superior bullshit argument.


https://monitoring.bbc.co.uk/product/c201hte3

Of course we don’t know if it is true or not, because North Korea is loving insane.

Katt
Nov 14, 2017

Dirk Pitt posted:

I’m all about THE STRUGGLE, and will be voting for Sanders in 2020, but surely you joke. With rumors like this flowing around it is insane to turn it into a North Koreans are superior bullshit argument.


https://monitoring.bbc.co.uk/product/c201hte3

Of course we don’t know if it is true or not, because North Korea is loving insane.

North Korea on a municipal level is only about 20% as crazy we we're lead to believe. An overwhelming majority of the stuff we get about North Korea is the South Korean intelligence service trolling us to maintain US support. Either that or reiterations on reports from 50 years ago. North Koreans have tons of foreign media access, radios, cellphones, regular contact with South Korean workers. Not to mention millions of pirate dvds.

The North Korean healthcare system consists of medical teams that travel around the country and visit towns/villages to perform mandatory health exams on everyone that lives there on a regular basis. And then they treat what they find or book special treatment. Executions are not particularly common in North Korea these days. At least not by East Asia standards.


If you have some rare disease you're hosed in North Korea but for all the common stuff people fare a lot better.

Now yeah if we see no reports of Corona from North Korea it's obviously because they're keeping a lid on it. But North Korea has doctors and scientists. They know that a person will have been contagious for weeks before symptoms show. That they would execute Corona victims is up there with "Sweden is the rape and grenade killing capitol of Europe"

Zudgemud
Mar 1, 2009
Grimey Drawer

Katt posted:

That they would execute Corona victims is up there with "Sweden is the rape and grenade killing capitol of Europe"

So techniqally true according to reported statistics? Though i guess that depends on how you count Turkey and Russia in the grenade case.

teen witch
Oct 9, 2012
The real issue with the grenade statistic is not that Sweden has too many grenades, it’s that too many countries have too little grenades. Take the ring, rest of the world.

Rincewinds
Jul 30, 2014

MEAT IS MEAT

Katt posted:

Swedish Corona infected people up 1100% in a week. At this rate we will have 19 million cases within the next 2 months.


One of the cases was kilometres from my work.


Zero cases of Corona in North Korea and Cuba. Communism blocks viral agents. We should have listened.

Is it one thing Plauge Inc have taught me, is that you need to make drat sure to infect islands before they shut down airports and seaports.

teen witch
Oct 9, 2012

Rincewinds posted:

Is it one thing Plauge Inc have taught me, is that you need to make drat sure to infect islands before they shut down airports and seaports.

Weird that we haven’t spoken about Madagascar’s response to all this

THE BAR
Oct 20, 2011

You know what might look better on your nose?

teen witch posted:

Weird that we haven’t spoken about Madagascar’s response to all this

Their strategy works.

Mercrom
Jul 17, 2009
Can someone give me reasons to believe in the Swedish state's ability to handle an epidemic? It doesn't sound like they are taking it that seriously thus far. How prepared is the country for a worst case scenario?

Katt
Nov 14, 2017

Mercrom posted:

Can someone give me reasons to believe in the Swedish state's ability to handle an epidemic? It doesn't sound like they are taking it that seriously thus far. How prepared is the country for a worst case scenario?

The power of socialist sjukersättning will see anyone with a mild sniffle get sent home for 2 weeks. And through the power of snacks and video games we will self quarantine through this.


As opposed to the Americans where people 3 days dead are still working the Starbucks counter.

zokie
Feb 13, 2006

Out of many, Sweden
I LOLed when the news had this quote


quote:

Barn smittar inte

Fader Movitz
Sep 25, 2012

Snus, snaps och saltlakrits
Vår beredskap är god!

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

EL just keeps digging. The party has cooperated with the Socialist Youth Front (SUF) for a long time, making it basically an unofficial youth org that nonetheless maintained its indepedence. This cooperation has been ratified by the party's executive committee. Recently SUF announced they were planning to revitalise and would possibly change their name to Red-Green Youth, suggesting to some that they planned closer cooperation, for better or worse. Another group, some of them former SUF, has now swooped in and claimed that name. They have adopted the same colour scheme and typeface as EL. Many leading members of EL are out on social media congratulating this until yesterday completely unknown entity, suggesting foreknowledge and intention to circumvent the executive committee.

Attack on Princess
Dec 15, 2008

To yolo rolls! The cause and solution to all problems!

zokie posted:

I LOLed when the news had this quote

Yeah, the Norwegian health org. is spreading that information to the news too. You see, the virus randomly decides not to be infectious if you're below a certain age. :rolleyes:

It's hard to take them seriously when the only source of local contagion is a doctor, home from Italy, who spread it at the hospital to their coworkers and potentially their patients.

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

Remember that guy who shot up the Lars Vilks Committee and some cops and PET agents at Krudttønden, then tried to enter the synagogue, but instead killed a security guard and shot at some police guards who went full slapstick and ejected their magazines when they tried to return fire, and then he committed suicide by cop in the end while dual-wielding pistols? Well, back when he was serving time for a stabbing, they confiscated his contraband cell. It had been used to browse Al-Qaeda literature and contained the Anarchist's Cookbook.

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




zokie posted:

I LOLed when the news had this quote

Kids: Notorious for being hygienic and not sneezing right into your goddamned face.

Potrzebie
Apr 6, 2010

I may not know what I'm talking about, but I sure love cops! ^^ Boy, but that boot is just yummy!
Lipstick Apathy
It's possible that kids immune system kicks this particular virus to the curb, so hard that the virus load is insufficient to infect others.

Likely? :shrug:

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




Potrzebie posted:

It's possible that kids immune system kicks this particular virus to the curb, so hard that the virus load is insufficient to infect others.

Likely? :shrug:

No.

Rincewinds
Jul 30, 2014

MEAT IS MEAT
The Corona virus seems to be much less likely to infect children, which according to researchers is good, because the adoring lambs are germ factories waiting to kill us all. They can still be infected though, in one case Corona was found in a new born infant.

https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-case-children-infants-low-disease-expert-explain-why-2020-2?r=US&IR=T

Groke
Jul 27, 2007
New Adventures In Mom Strength

Alhazred posted:

Kids: Notorious for being hygienic and not sneezing right into your goddamned face.

Ahahahaha.

(If memory serves, you work with small kids? I don't, but I have four of the cute little plaguebearers myself. Yeah. Hygienic.)

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




Groke posted:


(If memory serves, you work with small kids? )
Cause of death for Alhazred: Kid snotted in his food after licking the pavement.

lilljonas
May 6, 2007

We got crabs? We got crabs!
I, for one, am appreciating finally seeing an increase in the Swedish Krona.

Oh no, you said Corona? gently caress.

E: I commute by train so I'll definitely be in the initial plague cart piles. People just sneezing and coughing non stop for two hours per day.

lilljonas fucked around with this message at 12:45 on Mar 3, 2020

teen witch
Oct 9, 2012

lilljonas posted:

I, for one, am appreciating finally seeing an increase in the Swedish Krona.

Oh no, you said Corona? gently caress.

E: I commute by train so I'll definitely be in the initial plague cart piles. People just sneezing and coughing non stop for two hours per day.

If it’s anything based on SJ you’ll be an hour late to your own imminent sneezy death with some rear end in a top hat playing music from a speaker on it.

Fader Movitz
Sep 25, 2012

Snus, snaps och saltlakrits

teen witch posted:

If it’s anything based on SJ you’ll be an hour late to your own imminent sneezy death with some rear end in a top hat playing music from a speaker on it.

Coronapandemin är försenad p.g.a löv på spåret. Vi har för tillfälley ingen prognos när trafiken upptas igen.

Katt
Nov 14, 2017

Friend explaining to be how non-contagious Corona is by using the examples of who the government wants tested (people who sat 3x3 seats around infected people on trains and flights) as opposed to the entire group of passengers.


Never mind that Corona on a daily basis keeps surprising governments and doctors with the number and spread of infected people.

BigglesSWE
Dec 2, 2014

How 'bout them hawks news huh!

Alhazred posted:

Kids: Notorious for being hygienic and not sneezing right into your goddamned face.

I’m a healthy enough dude but if I return to work at Gröna Lund this summer I will be absolutely pasted with the stuff.

Katt
Nov 14, 2017

BigglesSWE posted:

I’m a healthy enough dude but if I return to work at Gröna Lund this summer I will be absolutely pasted with the stuff.

Gröna Lund hasn't fallen into the water yet and disintegrated? Last time I saw it was like 1999 and it looked like one of those dilapidated road-show carnivals that "the gang" always runs into at the end of a horror movie while being chased by the monster.


All Pripyat levels of abandonment and faded colours. Looked like a good place to catch salmonella from eating caramelized shrimps on a stick.

Fader Movitz
Sep 25, 2012

Snus, snaps och saltlakrits
It's amazing how scrapping every type of war and disaster preparation we had in sweden is turning out not to be a great idea.

Fader Movitz
Sep 25, 2012

Snus, snaps och saltlakrits
Also why are the Danish and Norwegians preparing for millions of cases while the Swedish health org claims that only 0.15% will get it in a worst case scenario?

Katt
Nov 14, 2017

You think those people they locked on that lovely boat to all get ultra-infected in isolation feel kind if screwed now with Corona spreading across the globe anyway?

Katt fucked around with this message at 17:45 on Mar 3, 2020

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT LUMBER

imo cruise tourism deserves some such risk

Attack on Princess
Dec 15, 2008

To yolo rolls! The cause and solution to all problems!

Katt posted:

You think those people they locked on that lovely boat to all get ultra-infected in isolation feel kind if screwed now with Corona spreading across the globe anyway?

Depends on which lovely boat you have in mind.

If you're talking about the lovely boat outside Japan, they really were dealt a rough hand and I feel terrible for them. That's some bad luck and they must be miserable.

If you're talking about the lovely boat outside Haugesund, Norway, they kind of had it coming for getting an a lovely boat well after the outbreak.

Katt
Nov 14, 2017

Donnerberg posted:

Depends on which lovely boat you have in mind.

If you're talking about the lovely boat outside Japan, they really were dealt a rough hand and I feel terrible for them. That's some bad luck and they must be miserable.

If you're talking about the lovely boat outside Haugesund, Norway, they kind of had it coming for getting an a lovely boat well after the outbreak.

I had no idea that Norway got their own lovely plague-boat. Is that why their numbers are so high despite an infinite-oil-money healthcare system?

Attack on Princess
Dec 15, 2008

To yolo rolls! The cause and solution to all problems!
The cruise ship in Norway is a hand grenade that hasn't gone off yet. They have people with symptoms on board who had been in contact with people who tested positive, so the ship has been in quarantine for a day or two. The first few that were tested came back negative though. Hopefully they get the chance to go home instead of sitting on a lovely boat if it breaks out proper. I think it was from Germany and was due to return once they sorted out some tests.

The high number of cases here is part because we had a lot of citizens vacationing in the outbreak areas, and part because a doctor spread it at a hospital in Oslo. Folkehelseinstituttet has been granted the power to do whatever they feel is necessary to stop an outbreak, but they've been pretty lax about it, preferring to be reactive rather than proactive, and at some points even contradicting messages from the World Health Org.

Attack on Princess fucked around with this message at 18:27 on Mar 3, 2020

Katt
Nov 14, 2017

In Sweden some parents held their kids from school because their family had visited areas with infections and the schools threatened them with "unauthorized absence" which is a permanent mark on a students record.

The department of health responded by giving each individual school the freedom to handle it how they saw fit while reiterating that kids don't tend to get Corona.

Rutkowski
Apr 28, 2008

CAN YOU BELIEVE THIS GUY?

Katt posted:

In Sweden some parents held their kids from school because their family had visited areas with infections and the schools threatened them with "unauthorized absence" which is a permanent mark on a students record.

The department of health responded by giving each individual school the freedom to handle it how they saw fit while reiterating that kids don't tend to get Corona.
Wait, unauthorized absence is permament marks these days? drat I'd be so loving boned if that was the case back on 00-06.

Also, got a mail today from the municipality that lined out the corona rules and at least here no unauthorized absences will be dished out for precautionary measures.

Katt
Nov 14, 2017

Rutkowski posted:

Wait, unauthorized absence is permament marks these days? drat I'd be so loving boned if that was the case back on 00-06.

Also, got a mail today from the municipality that lined out the corona rules and at least here no unauthorized absences will be dished out for precautionary measures.

It's not a huge deal but unauthorized absence is noted and always has been as far as I know. At least after grade 9.

I graduated in 2005 and my teacher casually mentioned "only" 1 day of unauthorized absence on my record for the past 4 years which my mother somehow managed to appeal because it was supposed to be zero.


9th grade and below. Unauthorized absence also affects how much childcare the family gets and if they have multiple kids then one kids absence can bump down the "multi child" payment one step and reduce their payments further.

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Rutkowski
Apr 28, 2008

CAN YOU BELIEVE THIS GUY?

Katt posted:

It's not a huge deal but unauthorized absence is noted and always has been as far as I know. At least after grade 9.
Wasn't that back then or at least my schools didn't give a gently caress cause I didn't have a school year with an attendance rate higher than 65-70%

quote:

9th grade and below. Unauthorized absence also affects how much childcare the family gets and if they have multiple kids then one kids absence can bump down the "multi child" payment one step and reduce their payments further.

This, however, I remember being able to dodge and gently caress with their system enough that I only got caught one month over all those years. The limit was 20% absence IIRC but holy poo poo were they bad at enforcing that one.

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