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Would increasing salary improve the pool of applicants
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# ? May 14, 2024 20:25 |
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# ? May 31, 2024 21:47 |
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Hadlock posted:Would increasing salary improve the pool of applicants The whole point of the 1500 hour rule was to restrict the pool of applicants in order to increase salary, it wasn't about safety.
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# ? May 14, 2024 20:28 |
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Phanatic posted:turning flight schools into a treadmill No wonder those Colgan guys couldn't take off
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# ? May 14, 2024 20:29 |
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:as someone who has basically no clue about this stuff other than riding around in a lot of airplanes, what is the solution? Chat GPT flies the plane.
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# ? May 14, 2024 20:38 |
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:as someone who has basically no clue about this stuff other than riding around in a lot of airplanes, what is the solution? I have some thoughts on this. Well, solution number one is to start with the instructors at all levels. The Canadian system I work under, which is basically a model shared by much/most of the Commonwealth, has a different division of instructor privileges than the US has. The US has CFI (basic instructor), CFII (instrument instructor), and MEI (multi-engine instructor) each issued on the basis of a fairly grueling flight test and with the immediate privileges to train someone to those qualifications themselves, based on what I know of the system. On the other hand, our system doesn't divide "what you can instruct" for the most part, but rather the level of supervision that you require. You start as a class 4 instructor, which means you need the direct supervision of a class 2 or 1 instructor and you cannot conduct freelance instruction. After you have experience, you can upgrade to class 3, meaning you no longer require supervision. After more experience and a harder flight test, you can upgrade to class 2, which means you can act as a chief instructor of a flight training unit and provide supervision to a class 4 instructor. Then after another, harder flight test you can upgrade to class 1, meaning you can teach new instructors. This, ultimately, is done with the intent of ensuring a higher quality of instruction across the board, and trying to avoid the blind leading the blind -- essentially, a structure based on apprenticeship, rather than gating the qualification behind a particularly brutal flight test. The second thing, which we don't mandate here, but would very much improve training, is to focus more on CPL and multi-crew skills from day one with commercial-track students. Flight management, crew resource management, threat and error management, and decision-making are not prioritized enough at lower levels. Scenario-based training, in particular, needs to somehow be mandated, on the basis that it's a massive pain in the rear end for flight schools to accommodate in a practical sense, and they won't do it unless forced to do so. I want to have whole-day bookings with my CPL candidates and force them to confront actual, practical problems in real-world situations, but I can't do it because the entire model of flight training is based on a bunch of short bookings with different students every day. The third thing is to immediately scrap the 1500-hour requirement. It's absolutely counter-productive, because it encourages new CPLs to take a challenging job that they hate (instructing), to build hours. A flight instructor who hates instructing, or is simply not suited to it, is not going to be an effective instructor. I've got about 1800 hours instructing, I love my job and I think it's very rewarding, but it ain't for everyone. Building on that in a slightly self-serving way: flight instructors need to be better compensated to keep experienced, passionate instructors around. This is my second career, and honestly my personal financial situation is fine largely due to luck as much as anything, but if it were otherwise, I'd be out the loving door. I'm working above full time hours to have a shot at $60k+ per year, and I'm at the top of the instructor payscale at my school (basically a 100% raise from where I was last year as a class 3). No flight benefits, no time to use flight benefits if I had them. Related to the last point: airlines need to be more flexible and work with flight schools to allow pilots to make the jump to airline transport operations while not giving up on ab initio flight instruction, so that the wealth of operational knowledge you gain working for the airlines can flow backward to the flight schools in some way other than a few old guys who aged out of the airlines coming back and working part-time. Those part-timers are a very valuable resource already, but it's not enough. If you manage these things, you will turn out pilots at 300-500 hours who are absolutely ready to be second-in-command for commercial operations, and will learn enough to be effective captains some day. You will also, in all likelihood, have more captains who have the instructional skill to effectively mentor lower-time F/Os.
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# ? May 14, 2024 20:39 |
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just use the autopilot, dummies
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# ? May 14, 2024 21:08 |
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The whole idea of having freshly minted CPL's teach others is so dumb. "Hey, I can just barely operate this thing. Let me teach you what I know". The Canadian system does have some safeguards, with it's class system, but it's still not ideal.
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# ? May 14, 2024 22:41 |
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ImplicitAssembler posted:The whole idea of having freshly minted CPL's teach others is so dumb. "Hey, I can just barely operate this thing. Let me teach you what I know". What's ideal?
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# ? May 14, 2024 22:52 |
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ImplicitAssembler posted:The whole idea of having freshly minted CPL's teach others is so dumb. "Hey, I can just barely operate this thing. Let me teach you what I know". Out of anyone, they are more likely to know all that stuff because they just went through it compared to someone who's been flying the same route for 20 years.
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# ? May 14, 2024 23:17 |
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Phanatic posted:What's ideal? Every new pilot is instructed only by full time master instructors with at least 1000 hours of instruction logged.
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# ? May 14, 2024 23:21 |
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The ideal is most definitely to have instructors who have had real working experience. A 200 hour CFI knows gently caress all. For helicopter instructors here, they need at min 200PIC for a class 4 and all of the instructors of the school I went to , had 4000hr+ of real working experience with logging, firefighting, etc. It's only know that I'm reaching 500hrs that I'm feeling moderately competent and would even consider letting anyone else near the controls.
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# ? May 14, 2024 23:35 |
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Safety Dance posted:That kinda sounds like someone who isn't a good public speaker or happy being in the limelight who was suddenly thrust into the limelight one brisk January afternoon in 2009. Ok but it's been 15 years and they said he was an rear end too. I mean yeah good on him for getting his I guess but like... This isn't a news conference where he's caught off guard. It's a service he's charging tens of thousands for and leaving everyone go "that sucked."
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# ? May 15, 2024 00:05 |
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BonoMan posted:Ok but it's been 15 years and they said he was an rear end too. I mean yeah good on him for getting his I guess but like... This isn't a news conference where he's caught off guard. It's a service he's charging tens of thousands for and leaving everyone go "that sucked." And yet people keep paying for it. Would you do anything different?
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# ? May 15, 2024 00:07 |
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:as someone who has basically no clue about this stuff other than riding around in a lot of airplanes, what is the solution? Generally “avoid goose, ground, and buildings” and go with god.
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# ? May 15, 2024 00:13 |
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hobbesmaster posted:And yet people keep paying for it. I don't care either way but I thought it might provide some contextual insight into people's opinion of him since that was the discussion.
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# ? May 15, 2024 00:15 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSjZEWTqn3k
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# ? May 15, 2024 00:28 |
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Elviscat posted:A lot of big college and government campuses are similar, they'll operate a little steam plant and use the waste heat for campus heating. I worked at the construction site of what was to be a very, very large highschool. The project was so big that they had their own concrete plant, powered by a gas turbine powerplant. The plan was to run the concrete plant to build out the school, do contract work as it neared completion, and leave the powerplant for emergency power generation for the school and surrounding area afterwards. A win-win for everybody. The construction contractor gets money from the state, the state gets to give the county a powerplant, the school gets guaranteed power, and the school becomes an emergency shelter for the surrounding area during hurricanes and/or floods.
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# ? May 15, 2024 00:59 |
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The context on this I got from twitter is that this plane had just arrived from Mexico and things were normal until the switch to ground power. That means the “ding” and the seatbelt sign would’ve gone off telling FAs to disarm the doors and that everyone could get up and start getting their carryons down. Some passengers had already started deplaned normally via the jet bridge.
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# ? May 15, 2024 01:13 |
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hobbesmaster posted:Would you do anything different? ya i would not be an rear end in a top hat to strangers
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# ? May 15, 2024 02:28 |
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Phanatic posted:What's ideal? Ideal would be a system that allows low-time pilots to build experience, and experienced pilots to instruct while not actively loving their own rear end in a top hat with a cactus for potential earnings. I love my job as an experienced instructor, but there are some major problems: I get paid like poo poo and I could make more money doing anything else at this point; secondly, I, like most other instructors, have no experience in commercial operations because it's very much an either/or situation until you age out. Secondary problem: as you gain experience as an instructor -- when you get really good at what you do -- you tend to collect the hard cases, because who else can do it? So your job gets increasingly more difficult and miserable for the same pay. Personal whinge time: my more recently-qualified coworker asked to take over a student we were sharing. Good guy, a real pleasure to fly with; I gave it to him, I didn't really care. I've been rewarded with the same instructor giving me a real hard case because his "schedule wasn't working out" and I've taken over another hard case because the student and instructor had personal differences (namely, that the student needed actual guidance from an experienced instructor; I've got him near ready for a flight test, and while it was a pain in my assholes, it wasn't impossible). We have money from the government to train instructors who aren't already ME/IFR qualified, and I get none of them. I've got Halitosis McGee, whose breath could knock a buzzard off a shitwagon and hasn't flown in two fuckin years, because I can handle him, meanwhile my co-workers get the easy jobs. I don't know where I was going with this but if I wander off to a 705, no one should be surprised.
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# ? May 15, 2024 04:05 |
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Why do you have assholes, plural? How do you hold a medical?
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# ? May 15, 2024 16:55 |
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MrYenko posted:Why do you have assholes, plural? I think it was the aforementioned cactus
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# ? May 15, 2024 18:24 |
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https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cv2x2rxdlvdo So Boeing broke an agreement the DOJ made with them about the 737 crashes, so now they may get sued for them
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# ? May 15, 2024 18:39 |
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Boeing is saddened to hear about the death of everyone at 950 Pennsylvania Avenue, of natural causes.
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# ? May 15, 2024 21:23 |
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Phanatic posted:The whole point of the 1500 hour rule was to restrict the pool of applicants in order to increase salary, it wasn't about safety. Some boomers are content merely to pull a ladder up behind them, mainline legacy pilots take the ladder to FL410 and jettison the door it was attached to
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# ? May 15, 2024 21:56 |
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I love these videos because I get to see how quick the airport fire service responds.
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# ? May 16, 2024 04:12 |
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narrator: only a sundial was required
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# ? May 16, 2024 04:16 |
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I like the first few people out who went strolling off spanwise toward the winglet, 2 minutes or so into the video. Which raises the question: should the markings out there on the wing be clearer as to where you're supposed to go? In this case it's easy to laugh at them loving it up since no harm was done, but if it isn't clear where to go after stepping out the door, that's a problem.
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# ? May 16, 2024 04:40 |
It's a white path painted on the wing bordered by arrows. I'm not sure what more you could do. Maybe have the arrows be lights that light in sequence towards the slide?
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# ? May 16, 2024 11:32 |
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Or somehow inform people before take-off on how to exit the plane. Maybe they could have pamphlets in the seat pockets?
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# ? May 16, 2024 12:16 |
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Dunno-Lars posted:Or somehow inform people before take-off on how to exit the plane. Maybe they could have pamphlets in the seat pockets? Maybe some kind of safety brief?
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# ? May 16, 2024 13:03 |
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People don’t read so maybe we could have them watch a video instead?
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# ? May 16, 2024 13:18 |
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You could do little inflatable railings like the A380.
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# ? May 16, 2024 14:47 |
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:People don’t read so maybe we could have them watch a video instead? If we do that, make sure to require that that safety videos require that they actually show an aircraft and evacuation instead of increasingly abstract ads for the airline that barely fulfill the regulatory requirements for a video.
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# ? May 16, 2024 15:27 |
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hobbesmaster posted:If we do that, make sure to require that that safety videos require that they actually show an aircraft and evacuation instead of increasingly abstract ads for the airline that barely fulfill the regulatory requirements for a video. the delta one now seems to be a bunch of people hanging out in a tikki hut surrounded by palm trees, next to a beach. i don't think an airplane was ever displayed.
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# ? May 16, 2024 16:32 |
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`Nemesis posted:the delta one now seems to be a bunch of people hanging out in a tikki hut surrounded by palm trees, next to a beach. i don't think an airplane was ever displayed. I noticed that on my trip to Hawaii in March. I was honestly taken aback. I also saw one that appeared to be in some giant auditorium with plane seats substituted for theater seats. Really, the FAA should regulate a single safety video per type aircraft in service on US carriers and just have that shown in a no-nonsense manner. By doing this branding crap with abstract imagery, you are engaging the parts of people's brains that turn off advertising and zone out. My flight is not part of my loving vacation. It's transportation and is barely tolerated for as how annoying every part of the process is. Stop trying to establish yourself as anything other than a mass transit service who's goal should be to get me there quickly and safely.
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# ? May 16, 2024 16:47 |
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That video isn't making your trip less safe. If anything, the abstract videos probably cause more average travelers to pay some degree of attention and maybe absorb a little bit of the information, which is the point. if you are enough to prefer a dry FAA regulated video, the safety card's right in front of you and you can study it to your heart's content.
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# ? May 16, 2024 16:53 |
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the delta videos are good, people pay attention to them more at least
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# ? May 16, 2024 17:26 |
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yeah that's right im a silver medallion kind of a big deal
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# ? May 16, 2024 17:27 |
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# ? May 31, 2024 21:47 |
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bull3964 posted:Really, the FAA should regulate a single safety video per type aircraft in service on US carriers and just have that shown in a no-nonsense manner. By doing this branding crap with abstract imagery, you are engaging the parts of people's brains that turn off advertising and zone out. That sure is a take. All the information you need is in the safety card. I'm not sure how it works for tubeliners, but all I'm legally required to do is to point them to the safety card. (We do have videos as well).
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