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zakharov posted:Even if you don't attend games it doesn't make sense to me. I cheer for New York teams because I am from here and live here. I have zero connection to Manchester, London, Madrid, Liverpool, Barcelona, etc. It's hard to fake enthusiasm for a team that feels so removed. Anyway I'm just rambling. This is why I don't understand Americans who have never left the country rooting for whatever random European football team they end up rooting for. I wish you could pick your favorite teams, otherwise I wouldn't be a Kings fan
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Crazy Ted posted:Billy Haisley, word salad champion of Deadspin, just posted an article that opens with the following sentence: Soccer writers in general seem to have this problem. I do copy editing for a sports website and this paragraph makes me want to cut off the author's fingers.
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Spoeank posted:This is why I don't understand Americans who have never left the country rooting for whatever random European football team they end up rooting for. Benne posted:Soccer writers in general seem to have this problem. I do copy editing for a sports website and this paragraph makes me want to cut off the author's fingers.
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May 27, 2015 06:45
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Rovell is ramping up into full know it all mode for the spelling bee. Does he actually go to it? I hope one of the kids asks him why he's such a weirdo.
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May 27, 2015 14:22
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Haisley is easily the weakest writer on Deadspin and his MLS rants get really tiring. At least Margary can be funny once in a while.
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May 27, 2015 14:39
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Spoeank posted:This is why I don't understand Americans who have never left the country rooting for whatever random European football team they end up rooting for. Iowa didn't have teams in any professional sport so guess I can't cheer for anything  You can be invested in a pro team without growing up right next door to it. It's not like the teams are full of local guys you know, it's a bunch of strangers who often switch out almost every year, and most people can't afford to go to very many games in person anyway.
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Spoeank posted:This is why I don't understand Americans who have never left the country rooting for whatever random European football team they end up rooting for. It's because they like soccer and the biggest and most publicized league in the world in English at least is the EPL and maybe they started following a team before MLS was on TV (is MLS on tv?). It's like a Japanese or Korean citizen whose favorite baseball team is in MLB instead of one of the leagues where they live. It's the biggest and best one of those things, which they want to follow at the highest level.
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Badfinger posted:It's because they like soccer and the biggest and most publicized league in the world in English at least is the EPL and maybe they started following a team before MLS was on TV (is MLS on tv?). Most, if not all teams are, but they're largely on regional/local networks right now. They get national coverage every once in a while on ESPN but it's not common.
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May 27, 2015 15:26
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There's plenty to criticize MLS for, but punching down at fans and coming off like a smarmy rear end in a top hat in general isn't really endearing
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May 27, 2015 15:32
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DJExile posted:Most, if not all teams are, but they're largely on regional/local networks right now. They get national coverage every once in a while on ESPN but it's not common. Sorry that was mostly a joke. I catch a Union game once in a while and try to pretend they're not awful.
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Badfinger posted:Sorry that was mostly a joke. I catch a Union game once in a while and try to pretend they're not awful. I'm dumb! morestuff posted:There's plenty to criticize MLS for, but punching down at fans and coming off like a smarmy rear end in a top hat in general isn't really endearing It's basically this. Yeah, people know this isn't EPL-level soccer but they're still pretty fun times and tickets are usually pretty cheap.
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Chris Connelly named interim EIC of Grantland. Only thing of his I recognize are those sappy make a wish segments he'd do on Sunday sportscenter
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Wasn't he a feature writer at Rolling Stone or something before winding up at MTV?
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Kalli posted:Chris Connelly named interim EIC of Grantland.
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davecrazy posted:Wasn't he a feature writer at Rolling Stone or something before winding up at MTV? Yeah, and now he does stuff all over ABC and ESPN in both sports and entertainment. He's done a lot of stuff here and there with Grantland too. In terms of in-house short term options he's one of the most logical ones, and he's friends with Simmons so I doubt he'll change things too dramatically. MourningView fucked around with this message at 19:22 on May 27, 2015 |
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Connelly is a long-time entertainment reporter/editor so he's certainly qualified for the job. I would also put him in the category of "Friend of Bill" (or at least he was a frequent collaborator) which is probably the most interesting part of the appointment.
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MourningView posted:Iowa didn't have teams in any professional sport so guess I can't cheer for anything Barnstormers much?????
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chris connelly is great and would never say a bad thing about anyone which is probably the logic of his interim appointment
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Groucho Marxist posted:Barnstormers much????? Go Barnstormers should just be implied in all of my posts
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MourningView posted:Iowa didn't have teams in any professional sport so guess I can't cheer for anything You follow the Cubs because of the Iowa Cubs, this is what all my fiancee's relatives (except the lone cousin who was poisoned/saved by her dad into loving the Niners/Giants) tell me. The point of it all was how are the teams chosen? Are they chosen at random? Color scheme? Logos? Who is good? Non-regional fandom is weird to me because I see fandom as an extension of us/them regional tribal mentality.
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Spoeank posted:You follow the Cubs because of the Iowa Cubs, this is what all my fiancee's relatives (except the lone cousin who was poisoned/saved by her dad into loving the Niners/Giants) tell me. The point of it all was how are the teams chosen? Are they chosen at random? Color scheme? Logos? Who is good? Non-regional fandom is weird to me because I see fandom as an extension of us/them regional tribal mentality. When you live in a region without a team of a certain sport you pick a team you like watching or pushed towards a certain team by a family member it is that simple
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Groucho Marxist posted:Barnstormers much????? And they are now sadly in something called the IFL, which I think is more of a semi-pro league. I was more about the Des Moines Dragons anyway, the Energy ain't got poo poo on them. (except talent I guess, they probably have much more of that)
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Spoeank posted:You follow the Cubs because of the Iowa Cubs, this is what all my fiancee's relatives (except the lone cousin who was poisoned/saved by her dad into loving the Niners/Giants) tell me. The point of it all was how are the teams chosen? Are they chosen at random? Color scheme? Logos? Who is good? Non-regional fandom is weird to me because I see fandom as an extension of us/them regional tribal mentality. I am originally from Brazil, and started watching the NBA in Brazil. I became a boston celtics fan even though I've never lived in Boston in over a decade living in the US. The reason was entirely random. It was the late 80s early 90s. Meaning that my access to the NBA was restricted to the one game a week they would show (which would generally feature one of bulls, lakers or celtics), videogames (first basketball game I ever got was lakers versus celtics), and, coming from a FIBA background (at the time FIBA player numbers were always 4 through 15), thinking that Parish's 00 jersey was the coolest thing ever. Now, the celtics don't mean as much to me as my hometown soccer team, but picking the celtics is not any more or less irrational. Especially in the NBA, where teams are assembled by chance, instead of through a local youth system.
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OctoberBlues posted:And they are now sadly in something called the IFL, which I think is more of a semi-pro league. I have a Dragons shirt somewhere at home, the Dragons owned. Energy is a dumb as poo poo name. The Bucs are the best Des Moines minor league team though. Beer is cheap as gently caress and there are like 10 fights a game. Minor league hockey owns.
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The badge of honor thing some people do about sticking with a bad team is dumb as hell. Sports are entertainment, root for whoever entertains you for whatever reason. If a team is just making you miserable and you don't want to put up with that, fine.
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ElwoodCuse posted:The badge of honor thing some people do about sticking with a bad team is dumb as hell. Sports are entertainment, root for whoever entertains you for whatever reason. If a team is just making you miserable and you don't want to put up with that, fine. What? This is whack. Sticking with a bad team is all about hope and reward. If I started rooting for the Yankees in the 90s just because they were entertaining, the White Sox winning the Series after a near century drought wouldn't have been as momentous of an occasion in my life. Rooting for a team through good times and bad is like, one of the things that makes sports great.
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If you can't handle the agony of losing the thrill of victory is never sweet.
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My point is simply that all reasons for liking a sports team are irrational so trying to make rules for being a fan is stupid.
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If I wanted to do the most objectively entertaining or valuable thing I would stop watching sports at all. I don't think I am somehow morally superior for rooting for a bad team (though I do think that bandwagoning just to enjoy some vicarious sense of accomplishment is of questionable value), but certainly I have empathy for people who want to justify what is ultimately a self-destructive and irrational behavior. It's really no worse to cast your loyalty as a moral issue than to constantly convince yourself that the payoff is going to be more worth it than for people who get to be fans of a good franchise; both are self-deceptions. Really, the only serious problem is fans who use their fandom to be an rear end in a top hat to other people, whether that's justified by a rivalry or because your team is bad or because your team is good or whatever reason. It's probably more hurtful to poo poo on fans who already feel bad about their team losing, but it's all about knowing your audience and having the social skills not to overplay it.
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http://deadspin.com/editor-in-chief-tomas-rios-has-left-vice-sports-1707360421 Tomas Rios is out at Vice Sports.
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Spoeank posted:You follow the Cubs because of the Iowa Cubs, this is what all my fiancee's relatives (except the lone cousin who was poisoned/saved by her dad into loving the Niners/Giants) tell me. The point of it all was how are the teams chosen? Are they chosen at random? Color scheme? Logos? Who is good? Non-regional fandom is weird to me because I see fandom as an extension of us/them regional tribal mentality. A while back there was a "State Yourself" thread in TFF to explain why everyone rooted for their teams, and there were multiple people who chose their teams in Madden as children, even if there was an NFL team in their backyard. The tribal mentality thing is usually accurate but people childhood fandom decisions are tough to overcome (although it helps when it's a dynastic franchise with a lot of media exposure. I'm honestly amazed that MV is still keeping up with the Jazz). Those of us with local teams were usually just destined to like them at birth.
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Everyone who lectures someone about how they should root for Team A instead of Team B according to some unwritten rule about how to pick your favorite team should be stuffed in a woodchipper. The only exception is making fun of Mel Mudkiper for turning into a Steelers fan.
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http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/12986512/johnny-manziel-cleveland-browns-harassed-fan-throws-water-bottle-fairly-straightforward-incident Sports Journalism quote:"That turned into badgering on the kid's part, and it reached the point where Johnny Manziel threw a bottle of water at the kid. I don't know if it hit him. I guess I would say that ramped it up a bit."
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Ribsauce posted:Everyone who lectures someone about how they should root for Team A instead of Team B according to some unwritten rule about how to pick your favorite team should be stuffed in a woodchipper. D_I posted:http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/12986512/johnny-manziel-cleveland-browns-harassed-fan-throws-water-bottle-fairly-straightforward-incident Crazy Ted fucked around with this message at 22:28 on May 31, 2015 |
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Crazy Ted posted:Can we still make fun of MourningView for cheering for the Stockton/Malone Jazz and the 1990's Dallas Cowboys? At the very least, the faith has never wavered.
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Ribsauce posted:Everyone who lectures someone about how they should root for Team A instead of Team B according to some unwritten rule about how to pick your favorite team should be stuffed in a woodchipper. There's someone I know irl who is a self-proclaimed fan of the Blackhawks, Lightning, Predators, and Rangers. And they live-tweet every game. And they get in huge fights about whether or not they're "allowed" to passionate follow more than one club.
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Ribsauce posted:Everyone who lectures someone about how they should root for Team A instead of Team B according to some unwritten rule about how to pick your favorite team should be stuffed in a woodchipper. The worst is when your team sucks for a long time and then when it finally starts winning again you complain about BANGWAGONERS latching on because they're good while us TRUE FANS never wavered
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My new favorite thing is all of the Grantland podcasters reading ads for Ticket Gator or whatever the gently caress it is and sounding like they're reading a hostage message. Especially Chris Ryan.
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