|
ROFLBOT posted:In the continuing teardown of my track car, after we found this in the gearbox... Seems like it would be feedback from whatever broke in the transmission trashed the clutch
|
#
?
Nov 20, 2012 03:28
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 26, 2024 16:11 |
|
|
ROFLBOT posted:In the continuing teardown of my track car, after we found this in the gearbox... It's cool man, you used to have a twin plate clutch, now it's a 7-plate clutch! 
|
|
#
?
Nov 20, 2012 08:48
|
|
|
Memento1979 posted:It's cool man, you used to have a twin plate clutch, now it's a 7-plate clutch! A little JB weld should fix that right up. I know poo poo all about carbon clutches beyond that they exist according to that photo. I imagine they would have amazing heat resistance but sudden drivetrain load / unloads or any sort of misalignment would destroy them. Are my guesses vaguely correct?
|
|
#
?
Nov 20, 2012 11:14
|
|
|
Why do you have a $3000 clutch in a Soarer of all things? The only thing I can think of is that it must be an absurd race car that rips off lurid powerslides 24/7. 
|
|
#
?
Nov 20, 2012 17:55
|
|
|
Apparently this tractor was all of four days old: I don't think it's going to finish out the season.
|
|
#
?
Nov 20, 2012 22:42
|
|
|
Was it a Lamborghini?
|
|
#
?
Nov 20, 2012 23:12
|
|
|
Seat Safety Switch posted:Why do you have a $3000 clutch in a Soarer of all things? We're getting there  On pump fuel and stock 10:1 compression we have 400rwhp on a very safe tune while we set it up for E85, so in the spirit of "do it once, do it right" i splashed out on a clutch that (supposedly) easily take double that while being as easy to drive and long-lasting as a standard clutch. Car weighs ~1360kg with 20L fuel in it so it goes alright Failure mode is not clear, something went bang during a 2nd-3rd gear change, but the countershaft has broken at the 5th gear synchro which is an unheard of for these boxes. Possible partial clutch failure as above effectively making it a clutchless change which the box didnt like? Rest of the box was in perfect condition but could not select any gears which makes me think the clutch may have been the culprit. Not happy. ROFLBOT fucked around with this message at 01:47 on Nov 21, 2012 |
|
#
?
Nov 21, 2012 01:40
|
|
|
IOwnCalculus posted:Apparently this tractor was all of four days old: Nothing
|
|
#
?
Nov 21, 2012 17:32
|
|
|
CommieGIR posted:I'm hesitant to keep running it, even though the TDI has 280,000 miles its a damned fun and reliable car, I'd rather not risk a turbo self-destruct even though it still works. Our 2001 TDI had a hot side problem from 200,000 miles of high sulphur diesel and because, for some retarded reason, VW decided to integrate the turbine and exhaust manifold, the replacement part was about $5000. You can probably get away with much less than that just replacing the compressor, but definitely do it.
|
|
#
?
Nov 21, 2012 17:38
|
|
|
bidikyoopi posted:Our 2001 TDI had a hot side problem from 200,000 miles of high sulphur diesel and because, for some retarded reason, VW decided to integrate the turbine and exhaust manifold, the replacement part was about $5000. You can probably get away with much less than that just replacing the compressor, but definitely do it. Holy poo poo dude you got hosed, thats a $1000 part at most. I bought a bigger turbo for mine in 2005 and it was less than $1k. e: VNT17 which is slightly bigger and the same design
|
|
#
?
Nov 21, 2012 17:41
|
|
|
Billy Tully posted:Holy poo poo dude you got hosed, thats a $1000 part at most. I bought a bigger turbo for mine in 2005 and it was less than $1k. Yeop not surprised, although we didn't actually pay it. When you got the bigger turbo, did it have the manifold attached too?
|
|
#
?
Nov 22, 2012 16:55
|
|
|
 I found this lambo fire pretty interesting due to how it burned away the body but mostly left the actual structural bits behind without warping them much if at all. It's a unique view you don't see every day.
|
|
#
?
Nov 23, 2012 06:17
|
|
|
bidikyoopi posted:Our 2001 TDI had a hot side problem from 200,000 miles of high sulphur diesel and because, for some retarded reason, VW decided to integrate the turbine and exhaust manifold, the replacement part was about $5000. You can probably get away with much less than that just replacing the compressor, but definitely do it. So, I want to make sure I'm understanding this right - it was high sulphur diesel that caused issues? The engines I'm used to it's low sulphur that causes problems...
|
|
#
?
Nov 23, 2012 06:21
|
|
|
Rorac posted:
|
|
#
?
Nov 23, 2012 14:20
|
|
|
Two Finger posted:So, I want to make sure I'm understanding this right - it was high sulphur diesel that caused issues? The engines I'm used to it's low sulphur that causes problems... Yes, the variable nozzle turbos would get coked up with soot and stop working if you didn't give the engine the beans every once in a while or babied it for too long. The vanes need exercise. The injection pumps don't like the new low sulphur because it doesn't have as much lubricity but that is easily avoided with additives (B5 is perfect for that). bidikyoopi, the turbo I put on was the same except (IIRC) the compressor side was bigger.
|
|
#
?
Nov 23, 2012 22:42
|
|
|
Rorac posted:
From what I understand about those cars this isn't really a view that's all that unique.
|
|
#
?
Nov 24, 2012 21:30
|
|
|
MikeyTsi posted:From what I understand about those cars this isn't really a view that's all that unique. No, the unique part is that it isn't a pile of ash.
|
|
#
?
Nov 24, 2012 23:09
|
|
|
Fucknag posted:No, the unique part is that it isn't a pile of ash. The chassis frame is rather high grade steel. It will probably not warp much just because its clothes burned. However the crystalline structure of the steel has probably changed quite a bit after another tempering/annealing. The frame is pretty much toast, even though it looks like "just need some POR15 to fix it". To save it as a structural frame will be way beyond what the original manufactures are capable of.
|
|
#
?
Nov 25, 2012 00:23
|
|
|
Sir Cornelius posted:However the crystalline structure of the steel has probably changed quite a bit after another tempering/annealing.
|
|
#
?
Nov 25, 2012 00:29
|
|
|
InitialDave posted:One of our suppliers burned down once (actually twice, but hey) with a load of our parts on-site. My suggestion that they just time the blaze +/- 10 minutes before putting it out and we'll see if we can certify it as a heat treatment didn't go down too well. For people that originally ordered martensite, bainite can be a really nasty once-in-a-lifetime experience.
|
|
#
?
Nov 25, 2012 00:53
|
|
|
Sir Cornelius posted:For people that originally ordered martensite, bainite can be a really nasty once-in-a-lifetime experience. Once-in-a-lifetime because it usually signifies the end of a lifetime?
|
|
#
?
Nov 25, 2012 02:14
|
|
|
Memento1979 posted:Once-in-a-lifetime because it usually signifies the end of a lifetime? For constructional elements in a fast car, you might be correct. Bainite is some brittle poo poo for a frame.
|
|
#
?
Nov 25, 2012 02:22
|
|
|
InitialDave posted:One of our suppliers burned down once (actually twice, but hey) with a load of our parts on-site. My suggestion that they just time the blaze +/- 10 minutes before putting it out and we'll see if we can certify it as a heat treatment didn't go down too well. You'd have to stick a thermometer in there too just to make sure you're in spec!
|
|
#
?
Nov 25, 2012 02:35
|
|
|
Sir Cornelius posted:For people that originally ordered martensite, bainite can be a really nasty once-in-a-lifetime experience. See earlier post in this thread about heat-treated AR15 bolts assemblies. :/
|
|
#
?
Nov 25, 2012 06:41
|
|
|
rscott posted:You'd have to stick a thermometer in there too just to make sure you're in spec!
|
|
#
?
Nov 25, 2012 07:23
|
|
|
I posted this in the horrible things thread, but I had to share it with y'all, too. A friend of mine changed the "clutch" in his jetta. the word clutch is in quotes, because, well: (it is the most mangled clutch i have ever seen) 
|
|
#
?
Nov 27, 2012 14:08
|
|
|
nitrogen posted:I posted this in the horrible things thread, but I had to share it with y'all, too. Jesus, what happened to that thing? Looks like an over rev for sure.
|
|
#
?
Nov 27, 2012 18:26
|
|
|
sharkytm posted:Jesus, what happened to that thing? Looks like an over rev for sure. Looks to me like a long pattern of high RPM drops. That's what my MR2 turbo's clutch looked like after three years of redline launches.
|
|
#
?
Nov 27, 2012 19:03
|
|
|
bidikyoopi posted:Our 2001 TDI had a hot side problem from 200,000 miles of high sulphur diesel and because, for some retarded reason, VW decided to integrate the turbine and exhaust manifold, the replacement part was about $5000. You can probably get away with much less than that just replacing the compressor, but definitely do it. Just like to point out: You can get a used VNT-15 or VNT-17 for fairly cheap. I know VNT-15s are cheap enough a lot of 1Z/AHU owners upgrade to it, granted you have to make some changes to the firewall to make it fit. I thought by the time the VNT-15s were being put into the TDIs, they were already building the diesels to ULSD spec? Even my 98 TDI was pretty much ULSD ready. I think the coking issue is just an issue that all the VNTs had early on, just part of going from a wastegated turbo that has been used for a decade or two to a variable vane turbo that is a relatively new design for consumer end products. CommieGIR fucked around with this message at 05:51 on Nov 28, 2012 |
|
#
?
Nov 28, 2012 05:45
|
|
|
Phy posted:Was it a Lamborghini? This was.  Click for the article.
|
|
#
?
Nov 28, 2012 12:21
|
|
|
Paul Boz_ posted:Looks to me like a long pattern of high RPM drops. That's what my MR2 turbo's clutch looked like after three years of redline launches. He bought the jetta from a kid for CHEAP, so you are probably right.
|
|
#
?
Nov 28, 2012 15:33
|
|
|
 http://www.mauinews.com/page/content.detail/id/566647.html Dad of a guy I know from high school.
|
|
#
?
Nov 29, 2012 06:24
|
|
|
Phy posted:Was it a Lamborghini? yes.  I saw a Scion that was scorched from the windows up on the back of a flatbed today. The roof was sunken and everything, but the bottom half of the car seemed unscathed. odd. GnarlyCharlie4u fucked around with this message at 06:50 on Nov 29, 2012 |
|
#
?
Nov 29, 2012 06:48
|
|
|
GnarlyCharlie4u posted:I saw a Scion that was scorched from the windows up on the back of a flatbed today. It's remarkable how much heat travels straight up in a fire, as opposed to sideways.
|
|
#
?
Nov 29, 2012 15:06
|
|
|
Plinkey posted:
And nothing of value was lost.
|
|
#
?
Nov 29, 2012 16:04
|
|
|
Motronic posted:And nothing of value was lost. It seems that all the gas was lost.
|
|
#
?
Nov 29, 2012 16:07
|
|
|
CommieGIR posted:Just like to point out: You can get a used VNT-15 or VNT-17 for fairly cheap. I know VNT-15s are cheap enough a lot of 1Z/AHU owners upgrade to it, granted you have to make some changes to the firewall to make it fit. Yeah, the whole thing was a mess of electric issues, driveline problems and scrapes from lovely NE drivers. We put probably 30,000 miles a year on it and never did any maintenance beyond oil changes and tire rotations. Basically, it was a complete beater that only got fixed because of family dealership, if I had to pay $5k we would have junked it. Good to hear it's actually much cheaper to fix.
|
|
#
?
Nov 29, 2012 16:52
|
|
|
Craving for human flesh or motor mounts? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3A2i3R37W0
|
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2012 03:07
|
|
|
How the gently caress do mounts even get to that point? Goddamn.
|
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2012 05:11
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 26, 2024 16:11 |
|
|
^^^ VTEC, yo. And here's what happens when you cheap out on a proper lift. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yr9Yt5yrIg
|
|
#
?
Dec 3, 2012 05:15
|
|
