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zedprime posted:I must be imaginary because I buy every Bethesda release figuring this will be the one I fall down a mod hole, and then just end up downloading an interface one and never looking at mods again. The important part being buying because of mods even if I never touch them. Never said you were imaginary, just in the minority.
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Kanfy posted:Didn't you also try to genuinely claim they got rid of Gamebryo for Skyrim, I get liking the games but why someone would keep repeatedly defending Bethesda's terrible engine I have a hard time understanding.
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Nov 12, 2015 15:26
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Lord Lambeth posted:Look at almost any other game that uses gamebryo. I never had a glitch problem with Civ 4. Oh come on, you can't seriously compare something like Civ 4 to the scale and freedom of the open-world Beth games. Of course you'll see more glitches in Fallout. Ghostlight posted:It was overhauled for Skyrim and it basically did nothing for it. They need to scrap the entire thing and ask ID to teach them how to use one of theirs. And yeah, "what the fans want" might not be a compelling reason, but their games are starting to show their age, and it's only a matter of time before their world-building can no longer make up for the inherited jank. Yeah sorry I should've been more clear. When I said "overhaul" what I actually meant was them scrapping gamebryo entirely and starting from scratch. I can just imagine some Bethesda developer walking into the boardroom "We'd like to request additional funds to create a new engine and/or license a competitor's" "Ok, and how many copies of the last Gamebryo engine game did we sell again?" "A million billion sir." "AHAHAHAHAHA  "I'm not trying to say I personally wouldn't have liked to see Gamebryo sent out to pasture long ago, it's definitely far past its prime. I just don't agree with people saying Bethesda is lazy or just doesn't give enough of a poo poo to fix the glitches that are still left over from previous games. I doubt they could do that even if they wanted to.
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Kanfy posted:It's certainly not the exact same thing as it was in Oblivion and they have improved on it quite a bit but unlike with Quake 3 and Call of Duty, the similarities between what it was then and what it is now are still incredibly obvious and they still share a lot of the same issues. How is Call of Duty significantly different from Quake 3 (on an engine level)? Did they finally add destructible environments?
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I have never had big problems with any Bethesda game being particularly buggy with things that matter (questlines given this is an rpg). There are some weird physics going on at times, but who cares. The people are hideous in their games, but that seems as much an art direction choice. Terrible level design is the biggest problem they suffer from (post Morrowind... and even that wasn't incredible). Part of it is just the nature of open world games though.
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computer parts posted:How is Call of Duty significantly different from Quake 3 (on an engine level)? Did they finally add destructible environments? Acting intentionally obtuse is a dumb way to make an argument, you know very well that nobody is going to play the newest Call of Duty and go "Man, I can't believe these animation and physics issues from Quake 3 are still there!" like they do about Bethesda's version of Gamebryo or whatever they call its most recent version. Of course I could be wrong about that as I admittedly haven't paid much attention to the game, but it seems pretty unlikely.
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I just polished off Mad Max, and I don't think I've played through anything that made me feel both like I wanted to utterly destroy a villain, and yet a bit queasy about how I was doing it every step of the way. That finale is a bit of a gruesome rush. Vague spoilers: The voicework really sold the single-minded descent into murderous madness, Max just going "until death, until death" over and over, and then the dead child started screaming "PAINT MY NAME IN THEIR BLOOD" and suddenly taking on a convoy singlehandedly was less fun, more "uhhhhh..." And then came the first-person segment. And the last phase, where I literally had to destroy all I had left, with every single character I had killed/gotten killed screaming for vengeance and that I was a piece of poo poo. Yeah, that was pretty hosed up all considered.
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Nov 12, 2015 17:00
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PantsBandit posted:Oh come on, you can't seriously compare something like Civ 4 to the scale and freedom of the open-world Beth games. Of course you'll see more glitches in Fallout. So the problem is that RPGs are inherently glitchy, jankity games. I'm just arguing there is nothing inherently wrong with gamebryo, other games have used it extensively without anyone complaining. Maybe Bethesda should try limiting their scope if they can't hire more people.
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END ME SCOOB posted:I just polished off Mad Max, and I don't think I've played through anything that made me feel both like I wanted to utterly destroy a villain, and yet a bit queasy about how I was doing it every step of the way. That finale is a bit of a gruesome rush. Vague spoilers: The voicework really sold the single-minded descent into murderous madness, Max just going "until death, until death" over and over, and then the dead child started screaming "PAINT MY NAME IN THEIR BLOOD" and suddenly taking on a convoy singlehandedly was less fun, more "uhhhhh..." Mad Max was a good game.
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Lord Lambeth posted:Maybe Bethesda should try limiting their scope if they can't hire more people. I don't believe they'd limit their scope to make *better* games if the ones they currently make continue to sell well.
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Nov 12, 2015 17:15
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Accordion Man posted:I'd agree with the criticism that its ending is a bit too edgy and keen on of just offing certain characters just so you can have REVENGE but you murdering Chumbucket was legit sad. He was far and away the best written part of the game. No, no, I totally agree, on both counts. I just think that scene is both the most hamfisted and most effective way of driving home that point all at once.
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Nov 12, 2015 17:18
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END ME SCOOB posted:No, no, I totally agree, on both counts. I just think that scene is both the most hamfisted and most effective way of driving home that point all at once. Sucks that the game's been hung out to dry. A DLC campaign or something would have been nice.
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"I must go, my people need me." Lucan Valerius died on his way back to Cyrodiil.
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Nov 12, 2015 17:54
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Bethesda own id and exclusive use of the id Tech engine. they stick with creationbryo not for licensing reasons but because most of their programming staff are just scripters who don't want to switch from what they're used to.
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Nov 12, 2015 18:24
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dreezy posted:Bethesda own id and exclusive use of the id Tech engine. they stick with creationbryo not for licensing reasons but because most of their programming staff are just scripters who don't want to switch from what they're used to.
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Zenimax is the company that owns id, that also owns Bethesda.
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Nov 12, 2015 18:35
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idtech would prboably be garbage for an open world game, in RAGE any time you used mouselook even slightly the textures would re-load
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Quest For Glory II posted:idtech would prboably be garbage for an open world game, in RAGE any time you used mouselook even slightly the textures would re-load This was true in non-open world game Wolfenstein also.
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Nov 12, 2015 18:43
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the gently caress is this http://store.steampowered.com/app/414500/
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I wanna pet those cats and play that game
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Nov 12, 2015 18:49
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corn in the bible posted:the gently caress is this http://store.steampowered.com/app/414500/ I don't know but it claims to have "Breathtaking cinematics...literally" so it's probably good
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Nov 12, 2015 18:51
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corn in the bible posted:the gently caress is this http://store.steampowered.com/app/414500/ drat those certainly were some animations and voice acting in that trailer.
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Nov 12, 2015 18:54
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aw yea I knew it would happen
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Quest For Glory II posted:aw yea I knew it would happen It won't give me the details.
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Nov 12, 2015 18:58
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i saw that corn and enjoyed it when i browsed metroidvania games earlier this week
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Quest For Glory II posted:aw yea I knew it would happen 
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Quest For Glory II posted:aw yea I knew it would happen  Take my money and bring me more DQ, please.
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Quest For Glory II posted:aw yea I knew it would happen Well poo poo, they got my money.
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They have the russian princess that punches everything but no torneko the fat merchant who wields an abacus and no rocket slime, wtf
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Not even the super macho mustachioed Ragnar McRyan in his all pink armor
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A Klei free weekend, I'm assuming in honor of the Invisible Inc DLC releasing. This is pretty great because I am super interested in trying out Invisible Inc without abusing refunds and it seems like a love it or hate it sort of thing.
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I had no idea an Invisible Inc DLC was coming, but apparently it released today to coincide with with Klei Publisher Weekend sale. More Invisible Inc is always good.
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How's Grav? Given that it's an early access survival crafting game I'm gonna assume bad but who knows maybe this time will be different.
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corn in the bible posted:the gently caress is this http://store.steampowered.com/app/414500/
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I felt that I had to post this, for some reason...            And 
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Quest For Glory II posted:aw yea I knew it would happen God drat it, I just bought this on PS4
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Quest For Glory II posted:aw yea I knew it would happen Whoa what? Where is this, I'm not seeing this at all. And yeah i already bought and platinum'd this on PS4 but I might have to grab it again just for the sake of getting more DQ, holy poo poo.
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