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Craptacular! posted:Please let's not link "being a creepy codger" or "unwanted flirting" with actual dyed-in-the-wool rape. the former is part of the same pattern of behavior and disregard for consent that leads to the latter OP
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:Either you believe shes lying or you don't. Shut up otherwise. Trying to turn this into a binary black and white did she or didn't she is ridiculous. The world is so much more complex than that.
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May 22, 2020 23:17
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Propaganda Hour posted:Doesn't matter how many times you ask for rare, it'll still come out overdone. just add ketchup (or piss) and you get a trump special
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May 22, 2020 23:18
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I think you’re all being a little too harsh on Joe for his “you ain’t black” comment. Maybe he really thinks he’s a black man, like a reverse Clayton Bigsby.
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May 22, 2020 23:22
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https://twitter.com/EoinHiggins_/status/1263949225446039553 holy poo poo 50 states
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May 22, 2020 23:22
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Scientist Al Gore posted:Trying to turn this into a binary black and white did she or didn't she is ridiculous. The world is so much more complex than that. when the question is 'did she get raped by this man' the answer is actually very black and white, yes or no, do you believe her
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May 22, 2020 23:23
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Well, the "don't hide that you are super racist"-strategy worked for trump, maybe biden is trying something similar. If trump hammers him on being rapey, maybe he can just bring a bunch of trumps victims to the debates, another proven strategy. I' sure it'll work out* *actually, I have no loving idea. Trump was saying racist things, obvious falsehoods, over the top boasting, on a daily basis during the campaign, which I thought would sink him all the time.
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May 22, 2020 23:23
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Revelation 2-13 posted:Well, the "don't hide that you are super racist"-strategy worked for trump, maybe biden is trying something similar. If trump hammers him on being rapey, maybe he can just bring a bunch of trumps victims to the debates, another proven strategy. I' sure it'll work out* Trump's base/the Republican base loves that kind of stuff. The people the Democrats need to turn out for them don't. That's the difference.
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May 22, 2020 23:27
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Biden is constantly lying. Biden has been a notorious liar for 33 years. When Biden first became a notorious liar Bad had been just released and the Macintosh II was on sale. Biden has been a notorious liar longer than AOC has been alive. And in the last 24 hours Biden has been caught lying in public about his campaign credentials (again). As Biden says, Biden will be Joe Biden, who is a notorious liar. He's not going to stop lying to us.
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May 22, 2020 23:28
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yea all the republicans cashing in on this being all 'so come vote for us, the people who also hate you' are idiots but that's not 'really' the goal they want (most of them, some are dumb enough to think that could happen), their goal is to boost this racist bullshit as hard as possible and go 'look what Joe Biden really thinks of you, just like us' and make people stay home. It worked with Clinton, it'll work now.
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May 22, 2020 23:28
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sexpig by night posted:https://twitter.com/EoinHiggins_/status/1263949225446039553 If it was anybody but Trump I'd say Biden had zero chance. As it is he still might loving blow it. This is the weakest walk back. If they're smart they'll keep him in the basement until November. https://twitter.com/edokeefe/status/1263915867189936128?s=19
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May 22, 2020 23:29
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Scientist Al Gore posted:Trying to turn this into a binary black and white did she or didn't she is ridiculous. The world is so much more complex than that. Cool you've decided to put the responsibility on the victim. Just watching Joe Biden step on an infinite amount of rakes and giggling because it didn't have to be this way. Unlimited unforced errors.
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May 22, 2020 23:29
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May 22, 2020 23:31
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Loucks posted:This is maybe off-topic and definitely enough to identify me if you knew me at the time, but I have bad memories of a girl who had big breasts at fifteen having sex with a male high school teacher in his late twenties because everyone's reaction was "Wow, she's such a slut." No one seemed to think that the guy was a loving child predator; it was all on her. She ended up sleeping with (being raped by) at least one married guy in his forties and eventually while smoking weed one night she asked me to shave her head because she was "tired of being pretty." Scientist Al Gore posted:Trying to turn this into a binary black and white did she or didn't she is ridiculous. The world is so much more complex than that.
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May 22, 2020 23:31
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How did they find someone worse than Hillary HOW? When Hillary told that black activist who complained about the crime bill to go run for office if she didn't like it, it didn't make headlines, even though it was unbelievably smarmy and lovely (and that attitude would go on to bite her in the rear end as black people didn't turn out for her in critical states like Michigan) He's not even the official nominee yet, and he's already making national headlines by saying poo poo that's literally beyond parody. Literally, like if you were writing a parody skit and some writer came up with that you'd tell them to shut the gently caress up because it's too offensive to even be a funny joke. fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck
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May 22, 2020 23:32
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Mat Cauthon posted:If it was anybody but Trump I'd say Biden had zero chance. As it is he still might loving blow it. Biden actually has worse chances because it's Trump, because Trump feeds on weakness and Joe is nothing but
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May 22, 2020 23:33
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Scientist Al Gore posted:Trying to turn this into a binary black and white did she or didn't she is ridiculous. The world is so much more complex than that. Explain how this isn't binary.
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May 22, 2020 23:35
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Scooter_McCabe posted:I'm assuming you want to know about the highlighted part. Okay so Gitmo was designated to hold detainees from the War on Terror. It was a bad idea from the start, because a lot of innocent people got sent there without a trial, evidence or even good intel. So now you have a bunch of pissed off wrongfully imprisoned people that get mixed in with radicalized people. Really not hard to convince the wronged ones who the real enemy is. So Obama said he understood the evils of holding someone without a trial and the problems that imprisoning innocent people led to. So he said he would shut the whole operation down, instead he took a few steps instead and merely downsized it. Smaller but still evil. Responding to earlier posts, From what I understand, Obama took gitmo from hundreds of prisoners to maybe seventy if I recall. He didn't close it down but I don't know how anyone can say that isn't progress. Reading quickly, it looks he was blocked repeatedly by Congress namely Republicans who have federal prisoners in their states refusing to take prisoners. With that, to hear something like "Obama didn't close Gitmo!" doesn't show the whole picture. As for SCOTUS, how did he let McConnell talk him into it? Dumb, no doubt but what was he working with to begin with during that time frame? As for Flint, that makes no sense. It'll be decades or more to correct the Flint drinking water problem and anyone that understands the relatively simple science behind it. If Obama truly did this holy gently caress that's an enormous mistake. Gucci Loafers fucked around with this message at 23:41 on May 22, 2020 |
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May 22, 2020 23:35
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Yinlock posted:Explain how this isn't binary. I'm neutral on the whole situation but leaning towards Reade claims but again reserving judgement.
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May 22, 2020 23:37
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Scientist Al Gore posted:I'm neutral on the whole situation but leaning towards Reade claims but again reserving judgement. That's your personal opinion, not nuance or complexity. There are only two possibilities 1) Joe Biden raped Tara Reade 2) Joe Biden did not rape Tara Reade there is a lot more evidence pointing to #1, there is no middle ground here. It's one or the other. You can withhold judgement yes, but that does not mean that the situation itself is more complex.
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May 22, 2020 23:38
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Scientist Al Gore posted:As for SCOTUS, how did he let McConnell talk him into it? Dumb, no doubt but what was he working with to begin with during that time frame? Oh, this one is easy. Obama did not let McConnell talk him into allowing the next president to fill the SCOTUS seat.
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May 22, 2020 23:40
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Scientist Al Gore posted:I'm neutral on the whole situation but leaning towards Reade claims but again reserving judgement. what, exactly, is the 'neutral ground' between 'joe biden raped her' and 'joe did not rape her and she's lying', explain.
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May 22, 2020 23:41
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Rigel posted:Oh, this one is easy. Obama did not let McConnell talk him into allowing the next president to fill the SCOTUS seat. McConnell usually got Obama to do whatever he wanted by threatening to raise a stink over something(that he would then raise a stink about anyway). Obama is remarkably spineless(and didn't really care anyway as long as he got paid) so it worked basically every time.
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May 22, 2020 23:41
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Yinlock posted:McConnell usually got Obama to do whatever he wanted by threatening to raise a stink over something(that he would then raise a stink about anyway). Obama is remarkably spineless(and didn't really care anyway as long as he got paid) so it worked basically every time. In this particular case, that did not happen.
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May 22, 2020 23:43
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sexpig by night posted:what, exactly, is the 'neutral ground' between 'joe biden raped her' and 'joe did not rape her and she's lying', explain. Only thing I can think of is he's making a schrodinger's cat argument? Its still binary though even if we can't look inside the box.
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May 22, 2020 23:43
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Revelation 2-13 posted:Well, the "don't hide that you are super racist"-strategy worked for trump, maybe biden is trying something similar. If trump hammers him on being rapey, maybe he can just bring a bunch of trumps victims to the debates, another proven strategy. I' sure it'll work out* I don't know about you but there were many times that Trump said or did something during the campaign that I thought would sink him. He made fun of handicapped people for christ sakes. Howard dean made a little yelp and that sunk him. Dukakis wore a stupid helmet and that sunk his campaign. How much do you think its the media not making this into something. They are supposed to be the fourth estate but they sure only care about ratings.
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May 22, 2020 23:43
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Rigel posted:Oh, this one is easy. Obama did not let McConnell talk him into allowing the next president to fill the SCOTUS seat. Yeah, that’s some bullshit right there. The bullshit being McConnell talked him into that situation. McConnell had zero reason to even have the need, since the Republicans controlled the Senate when that nomination came up, and even though Obama put someone up that was widely seen as a compromise, they were just like “lmao, no.”
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May 22, 2020 23:44
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Scientist Al Gore posted:Trying to turn this into a binary black and white did she or didn't she is ridiculous. The world is so much more complex than that. No its not. She was either assaulted by Biden or wasnt. You desperately trying to find something to justify your disbelief after the fact is just gross. Explain what the middle ground wrt her sexual assault is if its not so binary.
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May 22, 2020 23:44
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generic one posted:I think you’re all being a little too harsh on Joe for his “you ain’t black” comment. Maybe he really thinks he’s a black man, like a reverse Clayton Bigsby. Clyburn made him an honorary black man, so yeah he probably does.
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May 22, 2020 23:44
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Revelation 2-13 posted:Well, the "don't hide that you are super racist"-strategy worked for trump, maybe biden is trying something similar. If trump hammers him on being rapey, maybe he can just bring a bunch of trumps victims to the debates, another proven strategy. I' sure it'll work out* the thing is that Trump himself does not care and neither does his base while a little more of Biden's peels off every single scandal. Just look at how Biden had to apologize today for being a racist poo poo. Trump would've doubled-down while his base cheered him on, but Biden is naturally at odds with the people he needs to win over.
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May 22, 2020 23:46
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Either you believe her or you dont. No amount of "Well maybe she only thinks she was" or "Oh he didn't mean it like that" or "Oh she lied about a wholly separate thing at complete different time" moralizing wont change it. Do you believe she was sexually assaulted?
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May 22, 2020 23:46
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If Biden wins there's no way the Democrats aren't destroyed in 2022. Obama at least had a functioning campaign. The Biden Campaign is the grossest example of political malpractice I have ever seen. They are entirely hoping covid kills off enough boomers that they vote for him as Not Trump and putting in zero effort otherwise. When he starts loving everyone over there will be no good will since he's just the default that got in to hit the Trump release valve. As someone that actually doesn't want Republicans in control I'm outraged at this farce.
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May 22, 2020 23:48
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Rigel posted:Oh, this one is easy. Obama did not let McConnell talk him into allowing the next president to fill the SCOTUS seat. yes he did? That is exactly what happened. Obama could have escalated, and didn't because he's a spineless piece of poo poo. And the next President filled the seat. This is a matter of public record.
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May 22, 2020 23:48
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Personally I believe Biden raped that woman but I'm reserving judgment about if that's a bad thing or not.
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May 22, 2020 23:50
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VitalSigns posted:How did they find someone worse than Hillary Biden at least has a spouse who is smart enough to not tell young Black people that they should be grateful to him for proving Black lives really matter by locking up as many Black criminals as he could. By that metric, nobody believes Black lives matter more than Bill Clinton, except maybe Joe Biden. Of course the problem is that given an opening Joe Biden is likely to say something equally bad, or worse.
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May 22, 2020 23:51
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Rigel posted:Only thing I can think of is he's making a schrodinger's cat argument? Its still binary though even if we can't look inside the box. Umm, no? I think it obvious there was at a minimum a specific conflict between both them that went well beyond what's appropriate for 90s White Collar Office culture. It might have not been rape but possibly sexual assault or sexual harassment. The way she was pushed out is also suspicious but other posters have already gotten into details about that.
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May 22, 2020 23:52
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Scientist Al Gore posted:I'm neutral on the whole situation but leaning towards Reade claims but again reserving judgement. just say you hate survivors
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May 22, 2020 23:53
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MSDOS KAPITAL posted:Uh.... He should’ve asked to speak to the Constitution’s manager.
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May 22, 2020 23:54
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Scientist Al Gore posted:Umm, no? ____________________________________________________/ 
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