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5 RING SHRIMP posted:Nice. Where abouts? Eastham. Wish I had more interesting to say about it but we haven't managed to get out much. It's still offseason so everything is closed Monday and Tuesday. Though thankfully Cape Cod Beer is open so I'll be dropping by there in a bit. 
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The wife and I finished The People vs OJ Simpson series on Netflix last night. All I can say is wow...  I was only 15 when it went down and I remember it being crazy, but going through it all as an adult (at least what the series portrays) is pretty incredible to see how he got off.
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May 8, 2017 17:26
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Watch OJ Simpson: Made in America.
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May 8, 2017 17:28
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No Irish Need Imply posted:Watch OJ Simpson: Made in America. Is that the 30 for 30?
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No Irish Need Imply posted:Watch OJ Simpson: Made in America. That was what I did immediately after and it's good
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weird Asian candy posted:Is that the 30 for 30? No, it's a drama series where Cuba Gooding jr plays OJ
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May 8, 2017 17:34
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Wait, I got it backwards. Watch them both, is what I'm saying
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^ OK cool, thanks for the heads up I will check it out. I forgot it existed. What is the difference between the two other than one has actors?Volkerball posted:No, it's a drama series where Cuba Gooding jr plays OJ The Cuba is The People vs OJ, that's the one I just watched. The one Irish is talking about I believe is the ESPN 30 for 30 one?
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May 8, 2017 17:35
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weird Asian candy posted:^ OK cool, thanks for the heads up I will check it out. I forgot it existed. What is the difference between the two other than one has actors? Yes. If you haven't seen it, go do it now.
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May 8, 2017 17:37
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The 30 for 30 is way, way, way more detailed. It's like a 5 hour documentary. It's incredible.
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May 8, 2017 17:38
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Volkerball posted:Yes. If you haven't seen it, go do it now. Cool, we will. The 30 for 30s are so incredible, I'm actually really excited to check it out. I'm sure it will be more WTF worthy than The People vs OJ
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weird Asian candy posted:Cool, we will. Oh yeah. They dig into the social dynamics and OJ's character and everything. Starting from when he was born. The whole first episode is just setting the stage. They don't even go into the murder until later. There's that much loving context.
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May 8, 2017 17:41
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You can tell you are getting old when they have started making reflective historical documentaries about stuff you lived through and remember
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May 8, 2017 17:43
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Mel Mudkiper posted:You can tell you are getting old when they have started making reflective historical documentaries about stuff you lived through and remember The 9/11 ones were coming out in like..December
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May 8, 2017 17:45
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Quiet Feet posted:We saw GotG2 today. Can confirm goodness. I love the very ultra-modern 60s/70s design of Kurt Russell's spaceship and his psychedelic planet. In the movie theater now waiting for it to begin. I assume I'm going to be staying until all the credits are complete. Marvel movies suck you in that way. 
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Mel Mudkiper posted:You can tell you are getting old when they have started making reflective historical documentaries about stuff you lived through and remember I took a US history survey class in college (this would have been 2007) and the textbook ended with 9/11 and I wanted to curl up into a ball and die. Granted, that stretched the definition of "history" because it was only six years prior. The book took liberties because that alongside the dot com crash was considered the end of "The Nineties" in their definition.
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Mel Mudkiper posted:You can tell you are getting old when they have started making reflective historical documentaries about stuff you lived through and remember  I was a junior in high school during the rodney king riots. I had a friend who had an uncle who owned a convenience store in LA. On day 2 of the riots, he and his dad went down and joined up with his uncle and they defended the store. The other day my wife and I were watching some two-part special on comic book superheroes and how they developed over time, and they showed a clip from the RK riots as part of a segment about the social context behind what was going on with superhero comics in the early 90s. Because a bunch of people watching that show today are too young to remember the 90s. Dang I feel old.
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Spoeank posted:. The book took liberties because that alongside the dot com crash was considered the end of "The Nineties" in their definition. I think that's fair, those two events were definitely the end of the era of post Soviet prosperity and peace that the 90s defined
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May 8, 2017 17:50
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Mel Mudkiper posted:I think that's fair, those two events were definitely the end of the era of post Soviet prosperity and peace that the 90s defined Hmm. I think for me, the y2k scare, the dotcom bust, and the presidential election of George W. Bush mark the termination (with extreme prejudice) of the 1990s. By september 2001, the shitshow was already in full swing.
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Leperflesh posted:Hmm. I think for me, the y2k scare, the dotcom bust, and the presidential election of George W. Bush mark the termination (with extreme prejudice) of the 1990s. By september 2001, the shitshow was already in full swing. I think 9/11 is a nice dividing line because the country (and world) took a sharp turn there that led almost directly to all the dumb poo poo going on in the world on May 8, 2017. Y2K scare was ultimately nothing (since they fixed what would have been a problem)
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May 8, 2017 18:04
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How did the textbook view Clinton? He was a dreadful president but he's so charismatic that people don't give a heck.
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May 8, 2017 18:06
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The first 'holy poo poo' event I can remember clearly was the Oklahoma city bombing
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Dreadful is strong even if you didn't like his run.
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JIZZ DENOUEMENT posted:How did the textbook view Clinton? He was a dreadful president but he's so charismatic that people don't give a heck. If I remember right, it talked about NAFTA, Yugoslavia and the impeachment, mostly. It was pretty non-committal and was a bland statement of facts.
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May 8, 2017 18:15
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Bill Clinton raised taxes on the rich.
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Shangri-Law School posted:Bill Clinton raised taxes on the rich. Quelle horreur!
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Spoeank posted:I think 9/11 is a nice dividing line because the country (and world) took a sharp turn there that led almost directly to all the dumb poo poo going on in the world on May 8, 2017.
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May 8, 2017 18:48
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Silly Burrito posted:In the movie theater now waiting for it to begin. I assume I'm going to be staying until all the credits are complete. Marvel movies suck you in that way. You've either seen it or are just about at the end of it by now but, yeah, they have 3-4 short scenes during the credits. I was tickles by the inclusion of Ben Browder (is that his name? Dude from Farscape) as one of the snooty
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May 8, 2017 18:52
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Eli Wiggum posted:I'm not one to talk, but I honestly believe that Muslims in America pre-9/11 didn't face even half of the bigotry and discrimination that they do now Rambo 3 features red-blooded American John Rambo helping the brave and noble Musselmen of Afghanistan against the evil Communist menace of Russia. Quiet Feet fucked around with this message at 18:57 on May 8, 2017 |
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May 8, 2017 18:54
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Eli Wiggum posted:I'm not one to talk, but I honestly believe that Muslims in America pre-9/11 didn't face even half of the bigotry and discrimination that they do now Blame Jack Bauer
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May 8, 2017 18:58
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Quiet Feet posted:Rambo 3 features red-blooded American John Rambo helping the brave and noble Musselmen of Afghanistan against the evil Communist menace of Russia. 
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a neat cape posted:Blame Jack Bauer
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a neat cape posted:Blame Jack Bauer Definitely didn't help, but no, I think the surge of anti-Islamic sentiment predates 24. I see 24 more as a reaction that a catalyst. Within a week of 9/11, there was an unprecedented rash of violence against muslims (and anyone with a turban, including especially Sikhs) across the country. There was already a low-level prejudice there, of course, but mostly people were not talking much about "islamic terrorism" - it was problems with Saudi Arabia's control of oil, some lingering poo poo about the first Iraq war, and - by far the most important issue - the Israel/Palestine conflict. Like this poo poo was funny because it was true as hell: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cp6SgR9F5b0
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a neat cape posted:The first 'holy poo poo' event I can remember clearly was the Oklahoma city bombing I was seven and became incredibly despondent when I heard Princess Diana had died because I had a crush on her.
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No Irish Need Imply posted:Dreadful is strong even if you didn't like his run. His "third way" agenda was "sprint to the right". The financial crisis of 2007 was largely due to deregulation in his terms. He pushed democrats to dismantle Glass-Steagall law and deregulated the financial sector at a blazing pace. From the Columbia Journal Review: quote:Riegle-Neal hasn’t got a tenth of the press that the CMFA and Gramm-Leach-Bliley have, but it was a milestone in the creation of Too Big to Fail, allowing banks to cross state lines, effectively gutting state regulation of banking. The Christian Science Monitor that year quoted a Wall Street analyst saying that, “‘It also didn’t hurt that NationsBank president Hugh McColl has a working relationship with President Clinton or that the comptroller of the currency, Eugene Ludwig, was a successful lawyer at Covington & Burling and NationsBank had been a major client.’” Hugh McColl gave us Bank of America... His omnibus federal crime bill raised mandatory minimums among other awful changes. His reforms to welfare were largely punitive. It goes on and on. JIZZ DENOUEMENT fucked around with this message at 19:16 on May 8, 2017 |
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May 8, 2017 19:13
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never stops making me laugh Also this  let's arm a dictator because he hates Iran. This won't backfire.
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The world is a weird place.
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Eli Wiggum posted:I'm not one to talk, but I honestly believe that Muslims in America pre-9/11 didn't face even half of the bigotry and discrimination that they do now This is very true, yeah. If you look at the FBI's hate crime data from the US, in 2001 it basically jumped up from a reported ~30 cases a year previously to over 500, then settled down into merely 100-200 a year afterwards. (Specifically Muslim, in total the FBI reports 8-10k hate crimes a year over that timeframe outside of 2001, but there's a lot of general hate to go around in the US).
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Kalli posted:This is very true, yeah. If you look at the FBI's hate crime data from the US, in 2001 it basically jumped up from a reported ~30 cases a year previously to over 500, then settled down into merely 100-200 a year afterwards. (Specifically Muslim, in total the FBI reports 8-10k hate crimes a year over that timeframe outside of 2001, but there's a lot of general hate to go around in the US). That's a lot lower than what I would have expected. Is the hate crime data from charges or for convictions?
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Mel Mudkiper posted:never stops making me laugh They can't even plead hindsight because Saddam had the most metal coup in human history right from the get go.
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