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Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.
I hope you guys are ready because the supporters of Zionist Apartheid are going to do everything they can to keep any of you or your candidates from ever winning an election, those racists are loving vicious and cruel as gently caress if you ever stand up for the Palestinians.

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empireofcrime
Nov 3, 2015

The crimes of this guilty land can never be purged away but with blood.

Al-Saqr posted:

I hope you guys are ready because the supporters of Zionist Apartheid are going to do everything they can to keep any of you or your candidates from ever winning an election, those racists are loving vicious and cruel as gently caress if you ever stand up for the Palestinians.

Just thinking about how ADL had a bigger problem with Ellison than Bannon and Saban's threatening letter against Ellison.

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977

Al-Saqr posted:

I hope you guys are ready because the supporters of Zionist Apartheid are going to do everything they can to keep any of you or your candidates from ever winning an election, those racists are loving vicious and cruel as gently caress if you ever stand up for the Palestinians.

This was going to happen regardless of BDS tho lol

Baby Babbeh
Aug 2, 2005

It's hard to soar with the eagles when you work with Turkeys!!



Just lol if you think the political establishment will allow a DSA backed candidate into office without a fight to the death.

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977
Yeah the best hope for electing socialists on the state level is pushing in low-med pop Bernie heavy in the primary states, doesn't mean we shouldn't try tho, good pr

TwoStepBoog
Apr 12, 2008

Just joined the DSA after pushing it off for a month.
Now I gotta motivate myself to actually participate.
The last time I tried to participate in politics was at a Dem county meeting and holy moly that made me lose motivation for awhile.

Baby Babbeh
Aug 2, 2005

It's hard to soar with the eagles when you work with Turkeys!!



Even the losses help, because they get people to think, wait a minute, why are the Dems fighting so hard against things we all supposedly support? We arguably wouldn't have people moving as far left as quickly as we are if Bernie had won the primary, because losing exposed the Democratic party as a complete fraud. (although obviously Bernie Would Of Won so we'd at least not have Trump.)

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977

TwoStepBoog posted:

Just joined the DSA after pushing it off for a month.
Now I gotta motivate myself to actually participate.
The last time I tried to participate in politics was at a Dem county meeting and holy moly that made me lose motivation for awhile.

All you have to do is show up.

Impermanent
Apr 1, 2010
Electoral politics until chapter membership stsrts being 10,000 strong instead of 100 strong will be a joke, but it's good propaganda.

Glad Carlos was able to cut ties with bus relatively painlessly. Biss tried to slash public employee pensions a while back and seemed like he was ready to have lived that one down. Not anymore.

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977

Baby Babbeh posted:

Even the losses help, because they get people to think, wait a minute, why are the Dems fighting so hard against things we all supposedly support? We arguably wouldn't have people moving as far left as quickly as we are if Bernie had won the primary, because losing exposed the Democratic party as a complete fraud. (although obviously Bernie Would Of Won so we'd at least not have Trump.)

Any publicity is good publicity bc our ideas are fundamentally better than theirs and everyone who sees them side by side to lovely establishment Dems sees it's obvious

ChickenOfTomorrow
Nov 11, 2012

god damn it, you've got to be kind

TwoStepBoog posted:

Just joined the DSA after pushing it off for a month.
Now I gotta motivate myself to actually participate.
The last time I tried to participate in politics was at a Dem county meeting and holy moly that made me lose motivation for awhile.

go to a meeting, talk to some people, and get on the mailing list. easy start :)

then keep going to meetings and talking to different people, and before you know it you'll be an organizer

Business Gorillas
Mar 11, 2009

:harambe:



Ace of Baes posted:

Any publicity is good publicity bc our ideas are fundamentally better than theirs and everyone who sees them side by side to lovely establishment Dems sees it's obvious

Business Gorillas
Mar 11, 2009

:harambe:



ChickenOfTomorrow posted:

go to a meeting, talk to some people, and get on the mailing list. easy start :)

then keep going to meetings and talking to different people, and before you know it you'll be an organizer

Also going to add that if you don't feel comfortable going out and effectively being a socialist salesman, there's all sorts of practical skills that your chapter will need

Accountant work, graphic design, internal organization, all of this poo poo is needed to run a successful organization and you should plug in wherever you're able

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





Business Gorillas posted:

Also going to add that if you don't feel comfortable going out and effectively being a socialist salesman, there's all sorts of practical skills that your chapter will need

Accountant work, graphic design, internal organization, all of this poo poo is needed to run a successful organization and you should plug in wherever you're able

This is what me and my wife do. General IT work, data work, graphic design. We still go to all the protests and chapter-wide meetings, as well as a sprinkling of reading groups and other committee meetings, but we aren't the ones you want shaking hands and handing out fliers. We're just way too introverted. If a group starts discussing things we speak up, but that 1 on 1 elevator pitch isn't our strong suite.

There's a lot of work to be done! Once you get involved you'll see something you can help with and it's important you don't hate it so you don't burn out.

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977
Chances are there are people in your local chapter who are overwhelmed, something as small as being the person who responds to email or FB msgs can be huge for these kind of ppl

jarofpiss
May 16, 2009

DSA also needs contractors, laborers, accountants, attorneys, and administrators since it looks like we're gonna be replacing FEMA in texas and florida

Al!
Apr 2, 2010
Probation
Can't post for 10 minutes!

jarofpiss posted:

DSA also needs contractors, laborers, accountants, attorneys, and administrators since it looks like we're gonna be replacing FEMA in texas and florida

lets b real that relief money is an insulting pittance esp. since its mostly going to be used by no bid contractors to pay their executives a bonus

Ruzihm
Aug 11, 2010

Group up and push mid, proletariat!


Keywiki: Fully Automated Luxury Gay Space Communism Caucus, DSA (archive.is link)

:eyepop:

Ruzihm has issued a correction as of 19:12 on Sep 8, 2017

jarofpiss
May 16, 2009

prolly shouldnt click keywiki links not on tor, huh?

GunnerJ
Aug 1, 2005

Do you think this is funny?
Hypothetically, if someone had already done that at some point in the past, what should he or she be worried about?

freckle
Apr 6, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
nothing?

how can they tell the difference between left wing and right wing ip's?

R. Mute
Jul 27, 2011

whole lotta more 14's and 88's in right wing ips

jarofpiss
May 16, 2009

freckle posted:

nothing?

how can they tell the difference between left wing and right wing ip's?

idk but it's a guy that's devoted a lot of time to making a database of leftists and im just saying you probably don't want your unfiltered info going straight to him. I don't understand computers though

jarofpiss
May 16, 2009

also im already mentioned on a page and my girlfriend has her own so :smug:

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
my keywiki link is only a dead link

im sad

R. Mute
Jul 27, 2011

i thought keywiki was just a 'ill make the wiki!' effort not some mccarthy-esque list of public enemies

GunnerJ
Aug 1, 2005

Do you think this is funny?

Phi230 posted:

my keywiki link is only a dead link

im sad

same

jarofpiss
May 16, 2009

also fun fact, in tx voter registration rolls are public including your address! there is a form to fill out to get yourself removed from the public list so nazis can't publish your address and swat you or molest your kids or whatever nazis try and do

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

Ace of Baes posted:

Any publicity is good publicity bc our ideas are fundamentally better than theirs and everyone who sees them side by side to lovely establishment Dems sees it's obvious

oh word

WhiskeyJuvenile
Feb 15, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo

Phi230 posted:

my keywiki link is only a dead link

im sad

same

Ruzihm
Aug 11, 2010

Group up and push mid, proletariat!


jarofpiss posted:

prolly shouldnt click keywiki links not on tor, huh?

ooh, yea that's a good point let me put an archive link there

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977

yes

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977
If you go to keywiki the most they can do is see what zipcode you live in without knowing who you are, although I doubt whoever runs it is competent enough to even figure that out

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
Right yeah. Looks automated like it's scraping Facebook, so I would imagine visiting the site without doing computer stuff is inadvisable.

jarofpiss
May 16, 2009

Ace of Baes posted:

If you go to keywiki the most they can do is see what zipcode you live in without knowing who you are, although I doubt whoever runs it is competent enough to even figure that out

yeah i don't know anything about computers, just one of the things in our security training was "don't click links to nazi websites without using tor because you don't know who is running them" etc. we're also all using signal for texting and stuff

WhiskeyJuvenile
Feb 15, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo

Ace of Baes posted:

If you go to keywiki the most they can do is see what zipcode you live in without knowing who you are, although I doubt whoever runs it is competent enough to even figure that out

probably don't namesearch yourself

Business Gorillas
Mar 11, 2009

:harambe:



BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

Right yeah. Looks automated like it's scraping Facebook, so I would imagine visiting the site without doing computer stuff is inadvisable.

I'm on it with my fake Facebook name so that's exactly what they do

Business Gorillas
Mar 11, 2009

:harambe:



If you don't tell the faceless megacorp that sells your info that you're a socialist, you don't have that much to worry about from keywiki

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





Relationship Status: It's complicated

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Concerned Citizen
Jul 22, 2007
Ramrod XTreme

jarofpiss posted:

also fun fact, in tx voter registration rolls are public including your address! there is a form to fill out to get yourself removed from the public list so nazis can't publish your address and swat you or molest your kids or whatever nazis try and do

*In every state.

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