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Kennel
May 1, 2008

BAWWW-UNH!

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Sestze
Jun 6, 2004



Cybernetic Crumb
also this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSV8VLR6UNM

Gann Jerrod
Sep 9, 2005

A gun isn't a gun unless it shoots Magic.
Crosspost from the SHMUP thread.

KennyMan666 posted:

For quite some time, it has been known that Cave's genre-defining DoDonPachi from 1997 contains a scoring glitch. The first instance of it happening is believed to have been shortly after the game came out, but it was in 2015 that a Japanese player found how to use it on deliberately. This glitch allows you to get a much higher score than you could get without it. "Regular" top high scores in DoDonPachi tend to be in the realm of 600-700 million points, depending on ship and shot type. A player by the name of Blackisto has calculated the highest theoretical, sum-of-bests high score with all known strategies (without knowledge of the glitch) to be ~793 million points, using type A-L. Currently, the highest known western score recorded in the high score thread for the game on the shmups.com forum is 638,295,200 by Jaimers, using type C-L, set in October of 2019.

So, note how I said "western", there. The Japanese scores are a different story entirely.

Already in March 2016, three new world records were put up by JHA, a Japanese scorekeeping organization.

The old records were 754,937,640 with type A-L, 704,638,650 with type B-L, and 747,563,190 with type C-L.

The new B-L world record was a fairly reasonable increase, getting another 25 million points to bring it up to 730,186,030. C-L saw a slightly more questionable increase of 43 million points to 730,186,030.

And A-L increased by a whopping 108 million points, bringing the DoDonPachi world record up to an insane 862,976,450 points, well beyond the theoretical maximum posited by Blackisto. It was clear something was amiss here, and it was clear these records had been attained using the elusive scoring glitch. So - that should mean it was out in the open now, right?

Well - no. Japan doesn't do things like western players are used to, with posting replays, sharing strategies, and all that.

Here is an article detailing the Japanese scorekeeping and how it relates to the DDP scoring glitch (and some more information about what was known at the time), but to summarize, Japanese high scores have to be set in an arcade, confirmed by the arcade operator, and JHA requires no video proof (and it's not always allowed to shoot video in an arcade). So no different categories can be made for glitched/non-glitched scores. Only a handful of Japanese players knew of the glitch, and they were not interested in sharing it outside a small "inner circle". So for years, western players had no idea how to come close to these scores. Some players triggered it accidentally over the years, with the only evidence being ending up with points they had no explanation for how they might have gotten, but these instances didn't lead to any further findings.

But in February of 2020, DoDonPachi history was made.

The aforementioned Blackisto dug into it hard, examining every detail, every bit of information that was known, and finally pieced it all together, finally making the DoDonPachi score glitch public knowledge.

An article by Plasmo, detailing the entire thing, can be read here. In short, and somewhat simplified to not get too into DDP scoring mechanics, a certain enemy in stage 6 does not work properly with regards to a chain-related point value, if you gain a laser hit from the enemy on the same frame you destroy it. Rather than add a measly 10 points to this value, as the enemy would when destroyed normally, triggering the glitch will instead double said value, which will at the point it can be done be significantly higher if you have chained the stage as you would on a score run, thus adding a lot of additional points to your score. This enemy appears four times in stage 6, and thus the glitch can technically be done four times per loop, but as there's a very strict setup required for each instance of the enemy, doing that while also keeping your full chain is probably only possible in a tool-assisted superplay.

So at last, a longstanding shmup mystery has been solved, leveling the playing field between the Japanese and western DoDonPachi players more.

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry








thepopmonster
Feb 18, 2014



IDGI. This looks like perfectly normal soccer play to me.

LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day



Aramoro
Jun 1, 2012




LifeSunDeath posted:

This reminds me of my strategy for most racing games which is: full speed into turns, slam into the AI cars trying to actually corner, bounce off them and end up ahead. I tried this strategy while driving very fast go-carts and it did not work.

Ah the classic TOCA2 Turn.

Zereth
Jul 9, 2003



ToxicFrog posted:

This of course assumes that what makes me fascinating to NPCs is casting Chameleon, not the chameleon status effect itself; if it's the latter, the answer is "as I enter the town, I am immediately trampled by a deluge of NPCs, then the game crashes".
yes and I want you to test that and report back. :colbert: I made a suit of 100% chameleon stuff in my playthrough of normal Oblivion back in the day so I know what that does.

Cardiovorax
Jun 5, 2011

I mean, if you're a successful actress and you go out of the house in a skirt and without underwear, knowing that paparazzi are just waiting for opportunities like this and that it has happened many times before, then there's really nobody you can blame for it but yourself.
I didn't realize that Silent Hill has a soccer team.

Captain Hygiene
Sep 17, 2007

You mess with the crabbo...




I'm gonna say that's a yellow card

Der Kyhe
Jun 25, 2008

Captain Hygiene posted:

I'm gonna say that's a yellow card

I'm gonna say that's a white card, with a hotel name and room number on the backside.

Fathis Munk
Feb 23, 2013

??? ?

Holy poo poo I hadn't though about Helixsnake's videos in so loving long. Those were the days.

E: man the memories https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaUR6u8nHoM

Fathis Munk has a new favorite as of 20:37 on Mar 6, 2020

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry

Fathis Munk posted:

Holy poo poo I hadn't though about Helixsnake's videos in so loving long. Those were the days.

E: man the memories https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaUR6u8nHoM

Still too god drat funny. I wish there was a modern Skate 3, just as broken, but prettier.

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



the combination of the realistic ambient sounds with the stoic silence of the people is a huge plus for those glitches

*violently phases through 3 feet of concrete* :geno:

Captain Hygiene
Sep 17, 2007

You mess with the crabbo...



Krankenstyle posted:

the combination of the realistic ambient sounds with the stoic silence of the people is a huge plus for those glitches

Absolutely, I started giggling when I read that because it was an instant flashback to my reaction watching it years ago.

RatHat
Dec 31, 2007

A tiny behatted rat👒🐀!

Does this one come from a video?

SpacePig
Apr 4, 2007

Hold that pose.
I've gotta get something.
Seeing those HelixSnake videos also always makes me thing of this one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-Qag7qf3MU

I know it's not exactly a glitch, but the 360 grandma tap gets me every goddamn time.

Testekill
Nov 1, 2012

I demand to be taken seriously

:aronrex:

Fathis Munk posted:

Holy poo poo I hadn't though about Helixsnake's videos in so loving long. Those were the days.

E: man the memories https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaUR6u8nHoM

Don't forget that the music video for Somebody New by Joywave was created as a tribute to his videos.

stuffed crust punk
Oct 8, 2004

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Fathis Munk posted:

Holy poo poo I hadn't though about Helixsnake's videos in so loving long. Those were the days.

E: man the memories https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaUR6u8nHoM

Goonskate owned

Shit Fuckasaurus
Oct 14, 2005

i think right angles might be an abomination against nature you guys
Lipstick Apathy

Testekill posted:

Don't forget that the music video for Somebody New by Joywave was created as a tribute to his videos.

I expected it to be subtle. It's not.

Those are some goony looking motherfuckers, do they have stairs in their houses?

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



ha, that is a nice homage

Nordick
Sep 3, 2011

Yes.

Fathis Munk posted:

Holy poo poo I hadn't though about Helixsnake's videos in so loving long. Those were the days.

E: man the memories https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaUR6u8nHoM

You know, for virtual inanimate objects, some of these flying dumpsters etc in this video have loving impeccable comedic timing.

Jesus christ I haven't laughed like this in months.

Cardiovorax
Jun 5, 2011

I mean, if you're a successful actress and you go out of the house in a skirt and without underwear, knowing that paparazzi are just waiting for opportunities like this and that it has happened many times before, then there's really nobody you can blame for it but yourself.
It's such a simple thing, but I think the "my skateboard telekinesis is failing :(" clip at 2:20 is still one of my favourites. It could only be better if there was a voice going "no!... ugh!... c'mere!... goddammit!' the entire time.

NoneMoreNegative
Jul 20, 2000
GOTH FASCISTIC
PAIN
MASTER




shit wizard dad

Nordick posted:

You know, for virtual inanimate objects, some of these flying dumpsters etc in this video have loving impeccable comedic timing.

Jesus christ I haven't laughed like this in months.

a lot of the comedy timing in the video edits here reminded me of the unfortunately-named RacistMan3D in the GTA games

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC98J7-7ubnIZQjpoTVPHxXw

I think it's the wide angle plus the stationary camera plus knowing just when to cut shots.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVSdPBqD4N4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPVAdM43kQs

'Allo, 'allo, 'allo

Stare-Out
Mar 11, 2010

The wonderful thing about the Skate videos is the really matter of fact, cold and clinical camera and editing, plus the loud metallic clangs whenever flesh hits something, it really sells the impact.

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal

Cardiovorax posted:

It's such a simple thing, but I think the "my skateboard telekinesis is failing :(" clip at 2:20 is still one of my favourites. It could only be better if there was a voice going "no!... ugh!... c'mere!... goddammit!' the entire time.

2:32 is the best clip in the video. You have displeased rear end in a top hat Ghost King

haveblue has a new favorite as of 18:47 on Mar 8, 2020

Booourns
Jan 20, 2004
Please send a report when you see me complain about other posters and threads outside of QCS

~thanks!

Cardiovorax posted:

It's such a simple thing, but I think the "my skateboard telekinesis is failing :(" clip at 2:20 is still one of my favourites. It could only be better if there was a voice going "no!... ugh!... c'mere!... goddammit!' the entire time.

My favorite simple dumb thing is when ragdolls get caught between 2 solid things https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qu_QbowB5iU&t=517s

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

I like the clip at about 5:50 in the Helix Snake video where the game straight up forgets to collide the player with the world.

flavor.flv
Apr 18, 2008

I got a letter from the government the other day
opened it, read it
it said they was bitches




The secret is that Skate 3 wasn't really that buggy, most of the funny clips were taken after helixsnake broke out of bounds into parts of the map that were never intended to be playable

Croccers
Jun 15, 2012

RandomFerret posted:

The secret is that Skate 3 wasn't really that buggy, most of the funny clips were taken after helixsnake broke out of bounds into parts of the map that were never intended to be playable
Or abused the hell out of the Casual mode physics setting, where the world would bend over backwards to land you on a land/your feet.

LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day
Helixsnake is a hero we don't deserve
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofnxaJUIFYg&t=22s

LifeSunDeath has a new favorite as of 15:01 on Mar 27, 2020

Cardiovorax
Jun 5, 2011

I mean, if you're a successful actress and you go out of the house in a skirt and without underwear, knowing that paparazzi are just waiting for opportunities like this and that it has happened many times before, then there's really nobody you can blame for it but yourself.
Ghost Recon: Breakpoint seems to have gone all-in on the equal opportunity representation in video games:



edit: And now I'm stuck in a wall. I haven't been playing this game for half an hour yet. I think I may just choose not to buy it after the rest of the free weekend is over, thanks Ubisoft.

Cardiovorax has a new favorite as of 15:02 on Mar 30, 2020

TooMuchAbstraction
Oct 14, 2012

I spent four years making
Waves of Steel
Hell yes I'm going to turn my avatar into an ad for it.
Fun Shoe
More cheating by posting my own game. I'm working on improving performance, and as part of that am trying to make a faster but less detailed model for the AI ships to use for steering and wave motion. It uh, is not quite there yet.

https://i.imgur.com/2jlOUlD.mp4

LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day

TooMuchAbstraction posted:

More cheating by posting my own game. I'm working on improving performance, and as part of that am trying to make a faster but less detailed model for the AI ships to use for steering and wave motion. It uh, is not quite there yet.

https://i.imgur.com/2jlOUlD.mp4

Reminds me of Zaxxon

Cardiovorax
Jun 5, 2011

I mean, if you're a successful actress and you go out of the house in a skirt and without underwear, knowing that paparazzi are just waiting for opportunities like this and that it has happened many times before, then there's really nobody you can blame for it but yourself.

TooMuchAbstraction posted:

It uh, is not quite there yet.
I'd say so, but if you ever want to include any dolphins, it seems you're already halfway there.

marshmallow creep
Dec 10, 2008

I've been sitting here for 5 mins trying to think of a joke to make but I just realised the animators of Mass Effect already did it for me

Time to wrap up my legacy in State of Decay 2. Just need to finish off these hostile survivors and...

https://twitter.com/WingfieldGareth/status/1244837633068601345


....hrm.

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar

TooMuchAbstraction posted:

More cheating by posting my own game. I'm working on improving performance, and as part of that am trying to make a faster but less detailed model for the AI ships to use for steering and wave motion. It uh, is not quite there yet.

https://i.imgur.com/2jlOUlD.mp4

This looks like one of those neural net videos where the computer has found an extremely novel way to cheat solve the problems set it.

Rule: Minimise cross-section exposed to enemy torpedoes.

AI: beanpole.


EDIT: Here's the Procedurally Generated thread for anyone wanting to see more

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lu56xVlZ40M

Megillah Gorilla has a new favorite as of 14:13 on Mar 31, 2020

The Cheshire Cat
Jun 10, 2008

Fun Shoe

marshmallow creep posted:

Time to wrap up my legacy in State of Decay 2. Just need to finish off these hostile survivors and...

https://twitter.com/WingfieldGareth/status/1244837633068601345


....hrm.

No you almost got him, just a little more.

NLJP
Aug 26, 2004


Helixsnake would be a pretty good lovely superhero concept

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Cardiovorax
Jun 5, 2011

I mean, if you're a successful actress and you go out of the house in a skirt and without underwear, knowing that paparazzi are just waiting for opportunities like this and that it has happened many times before, then there's really nobody you can blame for it but yourself.
Helixsnakeman! The power to distract your foes by being really funny, but only when bashing your head in!

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