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Koramei posted:Huh has this actually been discredited? It was never supposed to imply that they were idiots, just that their brains weren't conditioned to process giant unnatural wooden poo poo floating on the sea. I'm not remotely qualified to talk about this but from my understanding it was suppposed to be similar to the tribe in the Kongo jungle not conceptualizing depth or the Aboriginal one that exclusively used cardinal directions- or if you wanna flip it, how in our society we can't conceptualize in cardinal directions without a lot of help. The Aztecs utilized very large floating platforms for housing and planting. Im the they had a good grasp of large floating structures.
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Cyrano4747 posted:. . . And that confederate musterschreiber's name was Cpl. Hyronimous
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Deptfordx posted:The worst thing about the new show. I literally found myself muttering aloud 'Shut up. You shouty idiot' at one point. Should have let Mike Loades present it, with the good Dr as backup. Mike Loades would call everyone wimps for playing this out on a computer, then force the contestants to throw themselves off horses so they could get an idea of what being in a battle was really like.
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Deptfordx posted:Oh God. Brian Blessed presenting that show would be awesome. You might be able to re dub an episode with the voice work he did for wars of the roses. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DECN_HTrGA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MC-zEGweMGE
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Mycroft Holmes posted:This conversation made me think. We know the Nazis tried to rework pretty much every facet of German culture and life, even to the point of starting their own christian denomination. What did the Nazis do about Christmas? Well they banned Krampus.
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Nenonen posted:Post your favourite Christmas greetings! 
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This is also decent: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas_in_Nazi_Germany As could be expected, they tried to remove the jewish dude. The more esoteric ersatz-pagan horseshit Himmler came up with didn't seem to catch on so well, though I must admit I haven't been able to find out much about it. Nenonen posted:Post your favourite Christmas greetings! Seasons greetings with Jólakötturinn, the icelandic yulecat that will loving eat you if you're not good!   
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Get two more BUFFs and then it'll be interesting. (Arc Light was kind of a thing that was basically a small nuke's worth of RDX.) E: how much ruining your day does a BUFF carry? It's kind of a lot either way, conventional or nuke. Just maybe add a couple zeroes to the yield for the latter. E2: Looks like the late Vietnam version carried drat near half a kiloton of steel and RDX, or more than one 15 megaton H-bomb? Yikes. E3: My father called in three Arc Lights during his time in the Army. They was a religious experience. Chillbro Baggins fucked around with this message at 13:39 on Dec 13, 2016 |
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Tias posted:Seasons greetings with Jólakötturinn, the icelandic yulecat that will loving eat you if you're not good! quote:The Yule Cat (Icelandic: Jólakötturinn or Jólaköttur) is a monster from Icelandic folklore, a huge and vicious cat said to lurk about the snowy countryside during Christmas time and eat people who have not received any new clothes to wear before Christmas Eve. "Hey Olaf, I need you to stay overtime today because a fierce monster will eat you otherwise" Christ what assholes.
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Nenonen posted:"Hey Olaf, I need you to stay overtime today because a fierce monster will eat you otherwise" Bosses: Inconsiderate and unnecessary since 400 A.D.  Don't get me started on the morality for children. Between the 12th and the 24th( I think) each day will come a "yule dude", sons of the christmas mother, who each embody a bad behaviour. Kids are supposed to learn these and not repeat them, and they place a shoe in their windowsill. If they're good, there's a sweet. If they're not, there's a potate - and you best believe potaties will get you a cat-eatin' 
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Tias posted:Bosses: Inconsiderate and unnecessary since 400 A.D. Very appropriate av/title/post combo. Also very displeased by the slandering of the noble spud as a harbinger of cat death.
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Tias, have you been to D&D again?
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HEY GAL posted:i;m the Yule Dude I'm Santa Knut quote:On St. Knut's Day (13th January), there has been a tradition somewhat analogous to modern Santa Claus, where young men dressed as a goat (Finnish: Nuuttipukki) would visit houses. Usually the dress was an inverted fur jacket, a leather or birch bark mask, and horns. Unlike Santa Claus, Nuuttipukki was a scary character (cf. Krampus). The men dressed as Nuuttipukki wandered from house to house, came in, and typically demanded food from the household and especially leftover alcoholic beverages. 
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Mr Enderby posted:I feel like what your asking for is primary sources for Puritans/Roundheads laying into Christmas, and I'm not sure I know any of those. But there are definitely Royalist sources accusing their opponents of doing that http://www.british-history.ac.uk/no-series/acts-ordinances-interregnum/p954 (this before Cromwell was the Big Cheese, btw). It wasn't so much abolishing Christmas as abolishing celebrating it, i.e. having fun as opposed to reading the Bible, though.
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feedmegin posted:http://www.british-history.ac.uk/no-series/acts-ordinances-interregnum/p954 Mike Duncan has a supplemental episode in his podcast series on the English Civil War (well, the ECW section of his series on Revolutions). It's only a little over 8 minutes: http://www.revolutionspodcast.com/2013/12/supplemental-the-war-on-christmas.html
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OwlFancier posted:Very appropriate av/title/post combo. Icelandic people are loving terrifying, and also awesome. Rockopolis posted:
No, I just picked a rando date iceland may have come up with their crazy-rear end death cat legend. Siivola posted:Tias, have you been to D&D again? How could you tell? 
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Tias posted:No, I just picked a rando date iceland may have come up with their crazy-rear end death cat legend.  Iceland wasn't settled until like, the 8th or 9th century.I was hoping you go big and just say "since the Holocene Epoch" or something. Tias posted:How could you tell?
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Actually, are there any good books or stories about making or keeping peace? Like treaty-making and avoiding war and such, not just making a desert and calling it peace. I figure I need a change of pace for the holiday season.
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Rockopolis posted:Actually, are there any good books or stories about making or keeping peace? Like treaty-making and avoiding war and such, not just making a desert and calling it peace. I figure I need a change of pace for the holiday season. https://www.amazon.com/Rites-Peace-Napoleon-Congress-Vienna/dp/006077519X
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HEY GAL posted:here is a peace, not peace itself I needed to read more anyway. Where's the WWI day by day book? The Goon one. Also, what do you imagine the Milhist Thread's Secret Santa gifts to be like? Kinda hard to make a surprise gift of a pike.
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Rockopolis posted:Hey, thanks! Kindle version's only six bux. Death Traps.
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Rockopolis posted:Hey, thanks! Kindle version's only six bux. The complete works of Niall Fergueson
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Rockopolis posted:I needed to read more anyway. Where's the WWI day by day book? The Goon one. You're thinking of 1914: These Are Our Masters and 1915: The Pale Battalions, both by thread regular Trin Tragula, and both available exclusively on the Amazon Kindle.
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Rockopolis posted:Hey, thanks! Kindle version's only six bux. Get a collapsible pike with sections that screw into each other.
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Replacement window panes. Or a trampoline.Argus Zant posted:You're thinking of 1914: These Are Our Masters and 1915: The Pale Battalions, both by thread regular Trin Tragula, and both available exclusively on the Amazon Kindle.
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Don Gato posted:The complete works of Niall Fergueson Why do you hate Secret Santa.
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This is probably too nebulous a question for a proper answer, in which case anything that'd help me parse it clearer would be nice, but, what turns a civil war from unrest in the population to an armed conflict? I guess I'm more specifically asking how rebels get organised, because I can easily see a big protest turning violent and martial law being declared, but how do you go from that to a state where there's something that can be considered an armed conflict? Is it just that states in places that have civil wars are so weak that they can't have a response everywhere to wide-scale unrest, and so parts of the country become rebel "held" with little violence that gives them somewhere to rally? Or, since I've also read about the importance of mountains, does everyone who hates the government run for the hills and somehow get guns?
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spectralent posted:This is probably too nebulous a question for a proper answer, in which case anything that'd help me parse it clearer would be nice, but, what turns a civil war from unrest in the population to an armed conflict? I guess I'm more specifically asking how rebels get organised, because I can easily see a big protest turning violent and martial law being declared, but how do you go from that to a state where there's something that can be considered an armed conflict? Is it just that states in places that have civil wars are so weak that they can't have a response everywhere to wide-scale unrest, and so parts of the country become rebel "held" with little violence that gives them somewhere to rally? Or, since I've also read about the importance of mountains, does everyone who hates the government run for the hills and somehow get guns? From the dictionary: Organized, large-scale, armed conflict between countries or between national, ethnic, or other sizeable groups, usually involving the engagement of military forces. I doubt there's a consensus on when it happens, but a prerequisite is the presence of enough armed political dissidents to challenge the national police and military forces for control( which usually makes the situation detetoriate further, as cops and soldiers usually aren't too keen on firing on friends and family).
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Another major part of it is escalation & crackdowns by the government such that armed resistance and overthrow of the government is seen to be the only way to enact change. It takes two to tango, it's not just about the armed dissidents. Having said that the whole "armed dissidents" bit is why dicatatorial countries like Belarus get nervous when there is a civil war on their border, as cheap weapons are currently flooding into Belarus from Ukraine which is not a good thing if you rely on force as one of the ways to keep your population under control.
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MikeCrotch posted:Another major part of it is escalation & crackdowns by the government such that armed resistance and overthrow of the government is seen to be the only way to enact change. It takes two to tango, it's not just about the armed dissidents. Yeah, I wasn't being clear enough, by "dissidents" I meant people who are convinced they have to remove their own government by force.
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The International Community seems to take a bit of a 'you'll know it when you see it' approach but my metric for civil unrest transitioning into a civil war would be actual loss of control of territory by the government to a competing group that seeks to take the role of the state. i.e. it's the difference between not being able to administer a city because there's rioters on the streets every day and you can't get anything done and not being able to administer a city because there's nobody left there who will pick up a phone call from the central government and anyone you send over there will get shot.
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spectralent posted:This is probably too nebulous a question for a proper answer, in which case anything that'd help me parse it clearer would be nice, but, what turns a civil war from unrest in the population to an armed conflict? I guess I'm more specifically asking how rebels get organised, because I can easily see a big protest turning violent and martial law being declared, but how do you go from that to a state where there's something that can be considered an armed conflict? Is it just that states in places that have civil wars are so weak that they can't have a response everywhere to wide-scale unrest, and so parts of the country become rebel "held" with little violence that gives them somewhere to rally? Or, since I've also read about the importance of mountains, does everyone who hates the government run for the hills and somehow get guns? Someone talked about rebellion against the government somewhere mostly in the context of america. Rebelling against the government is really hard, you have to legitimately be in such desperate straits that going up against a strong government is preferable to the alternative (starvation, genocide, poverty. etc.). On the other hand if the government is so weak it topples with a push then rebellion is a very viable prospect. For organizing rebels there are always some leaders people that other people flock to naturally for leadership. Community leaders, a local union head, religious leaders, professor at the local university, . People that already are looked up to at the community at large which makes them rallying points for rebels.
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