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Airborne:skydiving::cheese:chalk They might look similar, but they ain't. How many people do you know go skydiving and break both bones in the lower leg? Because that poo poo is super common at Bragg. The most common serious injury on jumps. In my Co, I knew of at least for dudes it happened to. Three of them did everything right, just bad luck. One hosed himself by trying to land like on TV.
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Super common at Benning too. Big guys you'd see come lawn darting in and little guys would blow about in the breeze for ages. Army is really bad at jumping out of airplanes, gently caress doing it their way.
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Jun 18, 2018 16:23
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Every September in Alaska we’d jump onto frozen but snowless ground, break a million legs and ankles, then do it all again the following September.
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Jun 18, 2018 16:33
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When the goal is to shove as many bodies possible out of a plane and onto a drop zone as quick as possible and as low as possible, the army does alright.
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Jun 18, 2018 16:35
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Mustang posted:The one in my Stryker worked flawlessly. I'd say you have to treat it right but I'm pretty sure it was just blind luck. I’ve been on an MGS since I got up here. Sleeping is less than ideal for us 
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Jun 18, 2018 16:35
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I don't know what skydiving and airborne have in similarity besides the sky and an airplane, but that is pretty much it. You can't really buy that experience where hundreds of dudes land on an airfield with doorbundles and vehicles, and do cool poo poo. OTOH I had a spinal surgery and am post-op recovery right now due to partial chute collapse so take this as you will.
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Jun 18, 2018 16:41
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There is no reason for divisional airborne units in the regular army in 2018 imo but whatever tradition
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mods change my name posted:There is no reason for divisional airborne units in the regular army in 2018 imo but whatever tradition We fund an entirely redundant branch of service because of tradition. I think airborne units are here to stay.
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Jun 18, 2018 17:00
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Vahakyla posted:I don't know what skydiving and airborne have in similarity besides the sky and an airplane, but that is pretty much it. You can't really buy that experience where hundreds of dudes land on an airfield with doorbundles and vehicles, and do cool poo poo. OTOH I had a spinal surgery and am post-op recovery right now due to partial chute collapse so take this as you will. 
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Jun 18, 2018 17:01
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psydude posted:We fund an entirely redundant branch of service because of tradition. I think airborne units are here to stay. very true
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Jun 18, 2018 17:06
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Divisional airborne is way more obviously stupid than having Marines around. lol that one of the big ideas being thrown around is some way to have a bunch of vehicles that the airborne guys can drive around in after they jump in. But which themselves aren't air-dropped.
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Jun 18, 2018 17:08
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mlmp08 posted:Divisional airborne is way more obviously stupid than having Marines around. Just give airborne guys those foldable mountain bikes like they used to.
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Jun 18, 2018 17:25
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Vahakyla posted:I don't know what skydiving and airborne have in similarity besides the sky and an airplane, but that is pretty much it. You can't really buy that experience where hundreds of dudes land on an airfield with doorbundles and vehicles, and do cool poo poo. OTOH I had a spinal surgery and am post-op recovery right now due to partial chute collapse so take this as you will. Ahahhahahahahahahahha
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Jun 18, 2018 17:32
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good job dude, you're hosed for life source: every single person that ever suffered an airborne related injury of any scale whatsoever edit: i work in DoD medical w/ polytrauma issues before someone tries to throw a well actually at me
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Jun 18, 2018 22:44
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Vahakyla posted:I don't know what skydiving and airborne have in similarity besides the sky and an airplane, but that is pretty much it. You can't really buy that experience where hundreds of dudes land on an airfield with doorbundles and vehicles, and do cool poo poo. OTOH I had a spinal surgery and am post-op recovery right now due to partial chute collapse so take this as you will. I love it. Maybe 2 years from enlisting to being a cripple for life.
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Jun 18, 2018 23:12
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How do field grades come up with ideas like "staff primaries and NCOICs need to do PT with random platoons once a week"? Is there anything they don't feel obligated to gently caress with? Staff doesn't want to PT with the platoons and the platoons don't want to PT with staff. Seems like the longer a LTC is in command the more things he feels entitled to stick his fingers in.
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Jun 18, 2018 23:12
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Mustang posted:How do field grades come up with ideas like "staff primaries and NCOICs need to do PT with random platoons once a week"? Just remember that when you get a BN command.
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Jun 18, 2018 23:14
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This particular LTC heavily pushes mission command so it's ironic how little trust he has in his subordinates.
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Jun 18, 2018 23:14
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It's all about OER and NCOER bullet points, with about equal parts megalomania
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That's my standard answer for "why do people at [insert rank] do [thing]?"
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Jun 18, 2018 23:18
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Mustang posted:How do field grades come up with ideas like "staff primaries and NCOICs need to do PT with random platoons once a week"? Welcome to I Corps.
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Jun 18, 2018 23:19
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Do other installations have to deal with COMET or is it just a JBLM specific thing?
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Jun 18, 2018 23:26
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the gently caress is comet?
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Jun 18, 2018 23:30
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I always saw them but I never asked what they did
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Jun 18, 2018 23:31
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It's a civilian organization on JBLM that inspects all CLDP poo poo, primarily CSDP, CMDP, CDDP and GPC stuff. It's probably other stuff but that's my only interaction with them. There's the critical requirements that can automatically fail you because you can't get a guy into a course like HAZMAT and whatnot and the division commander is tracking all these inspections.
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Jun 18, 2018 23:36
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I tried to get into HAZMAT the whole 2 years I was there.
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Mustang posted:It's a civilian organization on JBLM that inspects all CLDP poo poo, primarily CSDP, CMDP, CDDP and GPC stuff. At the company level we had 83 critical requirements for CSDP alone at the last base. lol.
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Jun 18, 2018 23:39
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I got to like some super high level osha hazmat poo poo but I let it lapse. Had to memorize all the pressures of storage tanks from those trucks up to the giant ones. The first level wasn't bad, mainly just learning placards and how to read a guide book
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Jun 18, 2018 23:41
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Hazmat Tech certs are pretty standard in CM now from what I understand because of the stupid DCRF mission. Comet is usually pretty easy, at least it was on Stewart. Just go line by line through the checklists and you’ll be fine.
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Jun 18, 2018 23:47
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Oxygenpoisoning posted:Hazmat Tech certs are pretty standard in CM now from what I understand because of the stupid DCRF mission. I imagine it all just depends on where you're at. The guys working at Comet on Drum were actually super helpful and surprisingly patient with us, at least for CSDP stuff, which was a lifesaver considering we were a bunch of musicians with little to no supply training.
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I went through like 4 hazmat courses working EMS, mainly placard stuff, some MSDS stuff, how to set up decon area's and how to deal with patients/populations involved in a hazmat area. It was essentially the worst thing I ever had to go through.
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DoktorLoken posted:I love it. Maybe 2 years from enlisting to being a cripple for life. Nah. My italian surgeon says if I wanna be retarded I can jump again in October-ish after my 9 month recovery.
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ok, guy that has had spinal surgery i'm sure everyone else with jump injuries just doesn't have the heart you do
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Don't kill yourself for a dumb jump. Your injury is life telling you "No." Everybody gets one. Yours is used up. There's a reason the 2002 "America's Army" video game was updated to make the jump training tower level skippable: your character always ate it unless you were PERFECT, and even then still sometimes bought the farm. I mean lol you have a lot of heart, go for it. The E7 who's been in too long to quit but wants to kill himself every day because he's sure his wife is cheating on him but he doesn't want to be a bad role model to his son (that may not be his) by quitting will like you more for it. He totally doesn't give you a fake smile and hearty pat on the back because it's the only thing he can do otherwise is suck off a shotgun. Instead he distracts himself with, "Maybe this, maybe this will give my life meaning," as yet another group of people making mistakes, under his direction, make some more in the hope that this time, This Time, he can maybe change a life for the better.
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Spoilers everyone ends up more broken and alcoholic, and people you know (and maybe you) will die in retarded training accidents that don't need to happen anymore except that a general 40 years ago got a hardon for round parachutes at 70 feet and instituted a program by pegging a begging senator with connections and now institutional inertia carries on the tradition that shouldn't have existed in the first place because it literally doesn't know any better.
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Vahakyla posted:I don't know what skydiving and airborne have in similarity besides the sky and an airplane, but that is pretty much it. You can't really buy that experience where hundreds of dudes land on an airfield with doorbundles and vehicles, and do cool poo poo. OTOH I had a spinal surgery and am post-op recovery right now due to partial chute collapse so take this as you will. SUMMADAT GRUNT poo poo
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Vahakyla posted:Nah. My italian surgeon says if I wanna be retarded I can jump again in October-ish after my 9 month recovery. Why do you need a surgeon's permission to be retarded when you're a retarded loving fin naturally?
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I, too, thought I was the one who would get out unscathed from jumping. I have 0 joints on my body that function as intended. Hope you are smart enough to listen to the hundred loving dudes who got crippled to various degrees from the job you are so loving ready to go back to. Seriously, go ahead and jump in October. Maybe you'll be fine. Maybe you'll be paralyzed for sum day grunt poo poo. Maybe you'll get lucky and only buy a small piece of it, and get hosed up just enough to function, but never again correctly or without pain. Just a reminder, sooner or later, pain meds stop working. Then you are left with fun stories, bitter memories, and unmutable pain volumes.
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God you guys make the airborne sound great
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I had an E5 try to tell me that it's perfectly normal to be mid-20s and have really bad knees and that I should stop being such a puss just because I had one shoulder surgery and wanted to get out.
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