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Cultural Imperial posted:some dude punches you in the head and chokes you during sex you scream and run off This is Canada, the victim will obviously apologize for such treatment
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If you wanted to shake the guy down for money going this route seems like a really bad and arduous way to do it oh crap you weren't being serious
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# ? Feb 11, 2016 21:38 |
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Whoops!
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# ? Feb 11, 2016 21:39 |
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At this point, Ghomeshi deserves to get off because these women were so loving stupid.
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# ? Feb 11, 2016 21:40 |
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Order? Reverse In Posted This Is Why But Curmudgeonly, Be To Hate I
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sliderule posted:Order?
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sliderule posted:Order? Because Twitter is garbage.
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THC posted:Because Twitter is garbage. Twitter is great and comments like this is why they're inexplicably turning it into facebook little by little. If you view a thread, it displays the original tweet at the top and the rest chronologically. If you're viewing a timeline, the most recent things are showed first. Perfectly simple.
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Putting the cart before the horse: perfectly simple. -- An Albertan
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jm20 posted:Reva Seth, a lawyer and best-selling author, wrote about what she says was her own violent encounter with Ghomeshi on The Huffington Post. In her post, Seth anticipates the victim-blaming question of why she didn’t do anything about the assault in the immediate aftermath: “As a lawyer, I'm well aware that the scenario was just a ‘he said/she said’ situation. I was aware that I, as a woman who had had a drink or two, shared a joint, had gone to his house willingly and had a sexual past, would be eviscerated.” So what exactly do you do in the criminal law context for sexual assault cases? A lawyer wouldn't be doing their job if they didn't try to question their credibility and asking for details in order to discredit their testimony. "what kind of car was he driving" is a legitimate question.
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sexual predators are worthless law breakers and don't deserve any sort of defence. You're either with us or with the rapists.
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PT6A posted:Twitter is great and comments like this is why they're inexplicably turning it into facebook little by little.
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Oh hey I didn't realize it's been a year since the ruling on Physician Assisted Death by the Supreme Court and even though there's a four month extension to develop legislation for it, individuals can apply to the courts directly for access in the meantime. Since legislature is dragging their feet on this, I just got an email from the College (I assume the same thing is happening across all health professions in every province) with some guidelines to follow in the meantime and they can basically be summarized as "if you have a conscientous objection, deal with it". e: I'm really jealous how much better the CPSO's PDF designs are compared to the OCP, shows you where all the money really is Eej fucked around with this message at 22:51 on Feb 11, 2016 |
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I can't wait till it's legal to euthanize seniors
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# ? Feb 11, 2016 23:48 |
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Yeah, turns out people aren't perfect rational machines and social behaviour doesn't follow a perfect logic.
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Cultural Imperial posted:I can't wait till it's legal to euthanize seniors CI your posts are a highlight of my day
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Eej posted:Oh hey I didn't realize it's been a year since the ruling on Physician Assisted Death by the Supreme Court and even though there's a four month extension to develop legislation for it, individuals can apply to the courts directly for access in the meantime. Since legislature is dragging their feet on this, I just got an email from the College (I assume the same thing is happening across all health professions in every province) with some guidelines to follow in the meantime and they can basically be summarized as "if you have a conscientous objection, deal with it". Sorry I may be misreading this, but are they saying that the individual doctor has to perform assisted suicide, even if they have a conscientious objection to it?
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Legit Businessman fucked around with this message at 16:52 on Sep 9, 2022 |
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Yeah I have a real problem defending the accusers in this case. I realize that it's incredibly hard to be in that type of situation and that the entire system is set up to protect the status quo, which definitely favours people who skirt and cross the line of abusive behaviour... but the accusers hurt not only their own case but future individuals who might have wanted to come forward when they experience their own abuse. Also there's been something off about Lucy the entire time, going back to her interview on the Current right after the story broke, so I honestly can't say I'm surprised that the trial has gone sideways. I was really just expecting it to be her though. Somebody fucked around with this message at 17:04 on Sep 9, 2022 |
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It's completely consistent to believe all the following things at the same time: 1) Jian Ghomeshi is a piece of poo poo. 2) Jian Ghomeshi is probably guilty of a crime. 3) It is a correct verdict to find Ghomeshi not guilty of the specific crimes he is being tried for. People get away with crimes all the time, and instead of viewing it as the justice system failing, it should be viewed as the justice system working as intended to err on the side of not punishing innocent people.
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Monaghan posted:Sorry I may be misreading this, but are they saying that the individual doctor has to perform assisted suicide, even if they have a conscientious objection to it? Hold on, I didn't read the Physician one completely I just marveled at how nice it looked. I was just speaking mostly from a Pharmacist POV where we may end up supplying the prescription for medications which will terminate a life. College of Physicians and Surgeons of Ontario posted:C. Conscientious Objection So no, they don't have to perform it if they don't want to. The one that's relevant to me: Ontario College of Pharmacists posted:Guiding Principles of Professionalism when Serving a Patient who has Qualified and Consented to Physician Assisted Death To me, 6 and 7 indicate that you can't really do much if you are a conscientious objector because you can't actually voice your moral objection and you are ethically obliged to have the patient's well-being and interests in mind. Giving someone the run around to go to another pharmacy (in some indirect way since you cannot just tell them "I don't want to be involved with killing a person") means you're presumably extending the patient's (and their caretaker's) misery which would be counter to the principle of Beneficence. Basically I don't see how anyone could ethically do the "oh we don't have any Plan B in stock" song and dance of Conscientious objection when someone's every waking moment is pain and misery. Eej fucked around with this message at 00:33 on Feb 12, 2016 |
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Newfie posted:A great little capsule on an issue in the Ghomeshi trial on communications between complainants from a great criminal professor at UofA http://petersankoff.com/2016/02/09/ten-minutes-on-the-ghomeshi-trial-communication-between-witnesses/ This is super interesting and I wish a bunch of outlets would pay to post this. It also basically goes to the point the Crown is hosed in this case and if it wasn't so high profile they would have dropped it before trial. Newfie posted:So i was thinking about the outcome of the ghomeshi trial today and one of the thoughts that came to mind was that even if he is found not guilty, isn't justice still served in a sense? From here on out his life is going to be living hell. Everyone he was friends with hate him, he will never have a career in broadcasting, nobody will hire him because if who he is and the claims against him, and he will never be able to go anywhere in Canada without glares or people spitting in his food. Honestly this seems like almost the best outcome possible and that jail time was really just icing on the cake of a scumbag getting his life ruined. Ghomeshi is going to sue the CBC for millions of dollars for wrong termination and leave the country PT6A posted:It's completely consistent to believe all the following things at the same time: He's more then likely guilty as poo poo but he won't be convicted (I'd be suprised if he was) I'm guessing he also has a bunch of stuff where he admits to women his likes kinky sex, which he admit in public in 2014. The Crown more then likely knows this too. This whole trial has been a clusterfuck
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sbaldrick posted:It also basically goes to the point the Crown is hosed in this case and if it wasn't so high profile they would have dropped it before trial. On my planet, seeing a lot of people crowded around waiting for you to do something stupid makes you less likely to want to do a stupid thing.
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Cultural Imperial posted:At this point, Ghomeshi deserves to get off because these women were so loving stupid. If stupidity of the victim guaranteed acquittal there would be no white collar crime.
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sbaldrick posted:
This comes off as a little "slut-shamey" which I didn't mean. flakeloaf posted:On my planet, seeing a lot of people crowded around waiting for you to do something stupid makes you less likely to want to do a stupid thing. More then one lawyer is shocked based on the evidence in this case it went to trial.
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apatheticman posted:If stupidity of the victim guaranteed acquittal there would be no white collar crime. Certainly explains how no bankers went to jail for the '08 crash
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apatheticman posted:If stupidity of the victim guaranteed acquittal there would be no white collar crime. Well, it's not quite stupidity so much as how rich the criminals are.
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sbaldrick posted:He's more then likely guilty as poo poo but he won't be convicted (I'd be suprised if he was) I agree, but the fact that he is factually guilty, which I believe he is, does not necessarily mean he should be found guilty by a court of law. Not only does he (theoretically) have to be guilty for that to happen, but the crown has to prove their case beyond a reasonable doubt within the rules of the law.
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sbaldrick posted:Ghomeshi is going to sue the CBC for millions of dollars for wrong termination and leave the country.
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FowlTheOwl posted:Wouldn't the harassment complaints still be reasonable grounds? His lawyer
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He won't get a dime for wrongful dismissal. He had a history prior, and was likely told to knock it off. I don't think the CBC producer accuser went to trial but she directly complained and they dropped him after he was found to have violated company code or ethic behavior. They can also say he was sexually harassing women at work which has a much lower bar than this sexual assault after the fact he said she said we got right now.
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sbaldrick posted:Ghomeshi is going to sue the CBC for millions of dollars for wrong termination and leave the country He's already tried...the case was
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jm20 posted:New topic, Law enforcement exceptionalism extends beyond the RCMP to the OPP. What's up with this Bosma murder anyway? Was Bosma a drug dealer or is it really as they say, that he was trying to sell a truck on Kijiji and some guys killed him?
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# ? Feb 12, 2016 02:36 |
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Whatever happened with the CBC shoving everything Ghomeshi was involved with down the memory hole?
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Brannock posted:Whatever happened with the CBC shoving everything Ghomeshi was involved with down the memory hole? MODS: Post refs unpersons. Make goodspeak.
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# ? Feb 12, 2016 02:39 |
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Like I don't really care that Ghomeshi got fired and I'm pretty sure he's a raper and a harasser and shouldn't be around other people, but it struck me as really weird that the CBC actively scrubbed everything involving him after he was fired. Was there ever any follow-up on that, or a statement from the CBC about it, or what?
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No follow-up is really needed. They did what any corporation would do.
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Cultural Imperial posted:The Heathrow Express is 36 GBP return. If you don't take the District/Picadilly to Heathrow like a poor you're doing it wrong. mik fucked around with this message at 02:52 on Feb 12, 2016 |
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mik posted:If you don't take the District/Picadilly to Heathrow like a poor you're doing it wrong.
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Brannock posted:Like I don't really care that Ghomeshi got fired and I'm pretty sure he's a raper and a harasser and shouldn't be around other people, but it struck me as really weird that the CBC actively scrubbed everything involving him after he was fired. Was there ever any follow-up on that, or a statement from the CBC about it, or what? huh? The Q archives are still up on the cbc site. When I occasionally find myself untriggered, I listen to Jian agree with Dana White that CBC operates in a competitive environment. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZY2fFYugjY&t=1543s
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