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Sickening
Jul 16, 2007

Black summer was the best summer.

mcmagic posted:

This set might be even worse EV than AMK....

This set is so bad.

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YggdrasilTM
Nov 7, 2011

I like this in a ramp deck. One of the problems in ramp deck is that the ramp cards became dead draws in lategame. This is quite good. http://mythicspoiler.com/hou/cards/beneaththesands.html

Elyv
Jun 14, 2013





Why do prowess, indestructible, and lifelink have reminder text again?

DangerDongs
Nov 7, 2010

Grimey Drawer
So to buy Ammits at 2.50? I am having a hard time reading this card: will it get played when Tracker and Rishkar are in the format or does it explode after rotation. The card seems strong.

Hellsau
Jan 14, 2010

NEVER FUCKING TAKE A NIGHT OFF CLAN WARS.

Sickening posted:

http://media.wizards.com/2017/hou/en_4dXI6XNB94.png

Oh boy look at this loving hot garbo at rare.

I mean it's not that difficult to make that a 10/10 or more with flying. That's not a particularly difficult drawback to overcome either.

Elyv posted:

Why do prowess, indestructible, and lifelink have reminder text again?

Because there isn't a core set for new players to learn the many keywords in Magic, so might as well put reminder text on simple cards rather than longer, more boring flavor text.

Tainen
Jan 23, 2004
Yeah I'm thinking -1/-1 might work

Ammit Eternal
Oblisk Spider
Archfiend
Nest of Scarabs or Hapatra
Ruthless Sniper
Key to the City
Channeler Iniatr
Tenacious Hunter
Splendid Agony
Supernatural Stamina (to bring the Ammits back without counters)

What else?

Some Numbers
Sep 28, 2006

"LET'S GET DOWN TO WORK!!"
Decimator Beetle?

whydirt
Apr 18, 2001


Gaz Posting Brigade :c00lbert:

Elyv posted:

Why do prowess, indestructible, and lifelink have reminder text again?

There are always cards with reminder text for evergreen abilities.

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

If you see this avatar while scrolling the succ zone, you have been visited by the mcmagic of shitty lib takes! Good luck and prosperity will come to you, but only if you reply "shut the fuck up mcmagic" to this post!

LOL Sorcery.

YggdrasilTM posted:

I like this in a ramp deck. One of the problems in ramp deck is that the ramp cards became dead draws in lategame. This is quite good. http://mythicspoiler.com/hou/cards/beneaththesands.html

You can't take T3 off in this standard.

Tainen
Jan 23, 2004

Some Numbers posted:

Decimator Beetle?

I think archfiend is a better 5 drop in this case because it spreads -1/-1 to every enemy creature and if you have the spider out that is also a lot of life drain and gain

uninverted
Nov 10, 2011


This set is so weird.

Sickening
Jul 16, 2007

Black summer was the best summer.
http://media.wizards.com/2017/hou/en_YErnpkof8U.png

I like the direction red is going these days.

C-Euro
Mar 20, 2010

:science:
Soiled Meat

Sickening posted:

This set is so bad.

Still ordering a playset of Fraying Sanity because I am a lunatic. Half-tempted to order Crucible Snake as well but I'm not smart enough to say where it should go in Modern.

YggdrasilTM
Nov 7, 2011

More reasons to play blue in Living end?

http://media.wizards.com/2017/hou/en_GqsjRNHTkB.png

Tainen
Jan 23, 2004
I will offer a differing opinion and say this set looks awesome.

Note: I did start playing for the first time when Amonkhet came out.

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

If you see this avatar while scrolling the succ zone, you have been visited by the mcmagic of shitty lib takes! Good luck and prosperity will come to you, but only if you reply "shut the fuck up mcmagic" to this post!

I don't think that solves any problems for Living End. Now, I could see Hollow One being played in the deck.

DangerDongs
Nov 7, 2010

Grimey Drawer

That art is so bad. Was it bring your child to work day?

vegetables
Mar 10, 2012

DangerDongs posted:

That art is so bad. Was it bring your child to work day?

I actually really like that art for standing out instead of sort of blending together into a big pile of sameness with all the other cards.

MiddleEastBeast
Jan 19, 2003

Forum Bully

uninverted posted:



This set is so weird.

this owns

the Orb of Zot
Jun 25, 2013

Apport: the Orb of Zot
The orb shrieks as your magic touches it!
Yoink! You pull the item towards yourself.
You see here the Orb of Zot.
http://mythicspoiler.com/hou/cards/vilemanifestation.html

I wonder how viable a cycling based deck could be with this.

TheMaestroso
Nov 4, 2014

I must know your secrets.
This seems like it could be good in WB Zombies http://media.wizards.com/2017/hou/en_Hc2XyLvJzN.png

E: I wonder if Pauper wants a strictly-better Wind Drake that jumps one of your guys http://media.wizards.com/2017/hou/en_ZFvmwP2PZC.png

EE: UNSUMMON IS BACK - it's been five years! http://media.wizards.com/2017/hou/en_7exh9Gncnv.png

TheMaestroso fucked around with this message at 17:00 on Jun 30, 2017

Sickening
Jul 16, 2007

Black summer was the best summer.

TheMaestroso posted:

This seems like it could be good in WB Zombies http://media.wizards.com/2017/hou/en_Hc2XyLvJzN.png

If it was instant it would probably be at least pretty mediocre. At sorcery speed you don't want to be taking a turn off to do this.

DangerDongs
Nov 7, 2010

Grimey Drawer

TheMaestroso posted:

This seems like it could be good in WB Zombies http://media.wizards.com/2017/hou/en_Hc2XyLvJzN.png

I agree. It gives the deck a ton of reach.

Archenteron
Nov 3, 2006

:marc:

DangerDongs posted:

I agree. It gives the deck a ton of reach.

Well, no. Reach would be good on defense :v:

Lets Pickle
Jul 9, 2007

Green seems really loving good in draft this set. It has, like, an actual curve with good 2-drops, probably the best common removal in the set, and a couple of good tricks. Oh, and Overrun lite.

Blue actually looks decent. It has a lot of card draw and decent common fliers, and some very good uncommons.

Black looks like hot garbage unless you are doing Zombie synergies.

Red seems okay, it has a bunch of 2 power 2-drops so maybe you can try to aggro out the opponent. It's midrange uncommons seem pretty good. Most of red's removal is underwhelming, although I think even at 3 mana the 3-damage card is going to be great.

White seems good but not as insane as it was in Amonkhet. Sandblast will probably be the best common in white. Unconventional Tactics seems like a legit win condition.

Lets Pickle fucked around with this message at 17:22 on Jun 30, 2017

TheMaestroso
Nov 4, 2014

I must know your secrets.
This is really good in limited http://media.wizards.com/2017/hou/en_Gw9CBmIrYl.png

Sentinel Spider is back, and it's a jackal! http://media.wizards.com/2017/hou/en_EZMIFV3y06.png

LOL Overrun that's easier to cast but pumps one less http://media.wizards.com/2017/hou/en_YLxIgCYIZc.png

MiddleEastBeast
Jan 19, 2003

Forum Bully

One-sided fight cards feel so loving good to cast, I'm glad this is in the set. Overall can't wait to draft this. Lots of cool little synergies; only fear is that afflict is just oppressively good.

St0rmD
Sep 25, 2002

We shoulda just dropped this guy over the Middle East"

Sickening posted:

http://media.wizards.com/2017/hou/en_4dXI6XNB94.png

Oh boy look at this loving hot garbo at rare.

Seems fine for limited, especially if the format slows down a turn or two. It'll usually be pretty big by the time you can cast it, and its drawback also feeds it. I mean, it's not amazing, but I would play it if i was in black, and be pretty happy to take it third pick or so.

Entropic
Feb 21, 2007

patriarchy sucks
It physically hurts me how bad this mana dork is. :negative:

Orange Fluffy Sheep
Jul 26, 2008

Bad EXP received

Sickening posted:

This set is so bad.

You, haha, literally believe that, haha, the Ilaxan leak was, hahaha, an intentional move by wizards because, get this, you literally believe wizards has so little faith in this set that, hahaha, the company that was comfortable trying to hype up M14 and Born of the Gods somehow, haha, couldn't make a set of weird EDH cards sound interesting, haha.

Jesus loving Christ, haha.

Sickening
Jul 16, 2007

Black summer was the best summer.

Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:

You, haha, literally believe that, haha, the Ilaxan leak was, hahaha, an intentional move by wizards because, get this, you literally believe wizards has so little faith in this set that, hahaha, the company that was comfortable trying to hype up M14 and Born of the Gods somehow, haha, couldn't make a set of weird EDH cards sound interesting, haha.

Jesus loving Christ, haha.

This thread deserves better gimmicks.

Star Man
Jun 1, 2008

There's a star maaaaaan
Over the rainbow
I don't have enough mana for the cycling cost for this thread.

Lottery of Babylon
Apr 25, 2012

STRAIGHT TROPIN'

Entropic posted:

It physically hurts me how bad this mana dork is. :negative:


It reads horribly but I think it's solid for limited, just not as a mana dork. You have to think of it as "bear with the utility upside of being able to mana dork when you really need it to" instead of "mana dork that sucks at being a mana dork and also is a bear I guess".

Orange Fluffy Sheep
Jul 26, 2008

Bad EXP received

Sickening posted:

This thread deserves better gimmicks.

Ugh, fine.




Lottery of Babylon posted:

It reads horribly but I think it's solid for limited, just not as a mana dork. You have to think of it as "bear with the utility upside of being able to mana dork when you really need it to" instead of "mana dork that sucks at being a mana dork and also is a bear I guess".

Also, there are seven lands in HOU alone that tap for things besides mana. Might want to use one of those more than once, or use them then untap them to have shields up.

suicidesteve
Jan 4, 2006

"Life is a maze. This is one of its dead ends.


vegetables posted:

I actually really like that art for standing out instead of sort of blending together into a big pile of sameness with all the other cards.

Yeah, it looks really nice. Reminds me of Samurai Legend Musashi or some other cel shaded game.

Lottery of Babylon
Apr 25, 2012

STRAIGHT TROPIN'

Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:

Also, there are seven lands in HOU alone that tap for things besides mana. Might want to use one of those more than once, or use them then untap them to have shields up.

Most of those non-mana abilities have costs like "Pay four mana and sacrifice a desert". It's not often you'll want to activate those twice between untap steps.

Chill la Chill
Jul 2, 2007

Don't lose your gay


Hell yeah dinosaurs! Hyped

Sit on my Jace
Sep 9, 2016


Lawnie
Sep 6, 2006

That is my helmet
Give it back
you are a lion
It doesn't even fit
Grimey Drawer

Not emptyquoting

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MiddleEastBeast
Jan 19, 2003

Forum Bully

Archer: the Gathering

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