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Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!

Rockopolis posted:

I suppose Rand Paul does sort of look like Bill S Preston, if you squint, and need glasses.

Well if you're squinting at him and need glasses you're in luck because he's an opthamologist! And you're also not in luck because he's self certified and not actually recognized as one.

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FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



Rockopolis posted:

Stop, you're making me wish we had Ted Logan running for President.
Could even be eligible for the most excellent Republican primary, party of Lincoln and all that.
Hell, I'll take Charles Logan over Ted Cruz anyday.

:twentyfour:

woke wedding drone
Jun 1, 2003

by exmarx
Fun Shoe
Whoa, whoa, whoa. Before slinging wild accusations about Dr. Paul's lack of certification by boards other than those he himself created, take a look at this:



That's right, he's wearing scrubs. You think you can just buy those?

Orange Devil
Oct 1, 2010

Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!
Are you saying medical personnel should be given their clothes rather than buying them?

Sounds like socialism to me.

Sir Tonk
Apr 18, 2006
Young Orc



loving buzzfeed.

Pander
Oct 9, 2007

Fear is the glue that holds society together. It's what makes people suppress their worst impulses. Fear is power.

And at the end of fear, oblivion.



Sir Tonk posted:



loving buzzfeed.

What the gently caress? Is buzzfeed like the 28 year old nostalgia machine?

Solkanar512
Dec 28, 2006

by the sex ghost

Vertical Lime posted:

Today is the day Al Jazeera America debuts.

Is there any interest in a thread about this? It's a pretty big deal in it's own right that AJ is finally widely broadcast in the US, and they made a huge investment in the venture.

PrinceRandom
Feb 26, 2013

Solkanar512 posted:

Is there any interest in a thread about this? It's a pretty big deal in it's own right that AJ is finally widely broadcast in the US, and they made a huge investment in the venture.

There's a thread in GBS for it. Front page still.

Solkanar512
Dec 28, 2006

by the sex ghost

PrinceRandom posted:

There's a thread in GBS for it. Front page still.

I missed it, thanks!

Mitchicon
Nov 3, 2006

Sir Tonk posted:



loving buzzfeed.

Is that...pizza in the background?

marathon Stairmaster sesh
Apr 28, 2009

ALL HAIL CEO NUGGET
1988-PRESENT

Sir Tonk posted:



loving buzzfeed.

Around the end of July, the Heritage Foundation tried to rail against Obamacare's individual mandate using animated gifs on Buzzfeed. Then Media Matters made a rebutal to it in the same style of the article.

radical meme
Apr 17, 2009

by Fluffdaddy
I'm really fascinated and appalled by Levin's book, The Liberty Amendments. I caught the first part of his show today and he spent an hour attacking this blog post in MediaMatters which described the book as, "electoral kryptonite for the Republican Party". Of course Levin defended his book primarily by saying that the liberal blogger wasn't smart enough to understand his brilliant ideas. The article points out that even Rush has praised the book:

quote:

Rush Limbaugh gave the book a ringing endorsement, saying on his radio program: "The Constitution's bastardized. It's been bastardized for years. It's been shredded for years. It needs to be reaffirmed. And Levin's book is a series of ideas of how to do it that involves the American people."

But this whole line of argument and messaging from conservative radio hosts is really unsettling to me. First, they are backtracking on decades of Constitution grandstanding. They have always held up the constitution as some of kind of infallible document and suddenly they are saying its broken and has been broken for years and needs to be fixed. I don't understand how that type of 180 degree marketing can sell to anyone. Second, they are out right saying that voting is useless and will never change anything. This is the most toxic message I can think of to deliver to their base. They are now telling their base that voting will never result in achieving their goals. Sure, they are saying that the base needs to support change from their state legislatures but their message is just one step away from calling for actual violent revolution in place of democratic change. If you add in main stream conservative support for fantasy land ideas of secession like in Colorado, you have a real recipe for disaster.

Business Gorillas
Mar 11, 2009

:harambe:



If they get to the point where they're openly calling for violent revolt, is that when they start getting visits from the Secret Service?

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。

Business Gorillas posted:

If they get to the point where they're openly calling for violent revolt, is that when they start getting visits from the Secret Service?



I think Hal could use a few friends.

mints
Aug 15, 2001

Living on past glories
Didn't he end up being some FBI informer?

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。
Yeah, and he also threatened the poo poo out of three federal judges. Being an informant is definitely a get out of jail free card, but it isn't a license to break laws.

woke wedding drone
Jun 1, 2003

by exmarx
Fun Shoe

Phone posted:



I think Hal could use a few friends.

That number board has seen some poo poo.

Skeeter Green
Aug 15, 2001

24 strings
Am I a bad person for hoping that the crazy bastards actually do start openly calling for armed revolt? Sure, some people might get hurt short term but we can finally toss the toxic fuckers in the dust bin of history and end the long term damage they've been causing for decades.

Kieselguhr Kid
May 16, 2010

WHY USE ONE WORD WHEN SIX FUCKING PARAGRAPHS WILL DO?

(If this post doesn't passive-aggressively lash out at one of the women in Auspol please send the police to do a welfare check.)
Considering how many of these people fly the Confederate flag, assuming there's a 'once-and-for-all' is probably a mistake.

agarjogger
May 16, 2011
They're nihilists, Donny. These men are cowards, there's nothing to be afraid of.

I think we had our chance to put these fucks in their place during Reconstruction and opted instead to incorporate them for the good of the country. And now this poo poo has metastasized, and wishing it were geographically contained is a pipe dream from the early 20th century. Confederate ideology has found its place in the official character of the United States. To take out the cancer now would cause tremendous damage to the body. They won't aggress because the counter-revolution doesn't need to act, it just needs to disorganize and demoralize. Also, poo poo sucks btw.

Skeeter Green
Aug 15, 2001

24 strings

Kieselguhr Kid posted:

Considering how many of these people fly the Confederate flag, assuming there's a 'once-and-for-all' is probably a mistake.

I'm referring more to the generic right wing pundit, especially the talk radio sort. Without them stoking the fire, Joe Redneck would probably be fairly docile.

HootTheOwl
May 13, 2012

Hootin and shootin

radical meme posted:


But this whole line of argument and messaging from conservative radio hosts is really unsettling to me. First, they are backtracking on decades of Constitution grandstanding. They have always held up the constitution as some of kind of infallible document and suddenly they are saying its broken and has been broken for years and needs to be fixed. I don't understand how that type of 180 degree marketing can sell to anyone.

Gotta set the groundwork to repeal the 26th amendment. And maybe those pesky three in the teens, if you know what I mean. Our founders didn't need adolescents and other certain people voting if you catch my drift.

ReindeerF
Apr 20, 2002

Rubber Dinghy Rapids Bro
Can't figure out where this goes, so I'm putting it here:

http://www.buzzfeed.com/stevefriess/how-the-nra-built-a-massive-secret-database-of-gun-owners

Intuitive result of what the NRA is and what political marketing is today and it's something anyone could have put together, but somehow didn't until now that I've run across. Also, hilariously ironic in some ways. Of course they're the largest centralized database of gun owners in America who aggressively pursue external sources of data and of course their data is then for sale, whether they admit it or not.

woke wedding drone
Jun 1, 2003

by exmarx
Fun Shoe

agarjogger posted:

They're nihilists, Donny. These men are cowards, there's nothing to be afraid of.

I think we had our chance to put these fucks in their place during Reconstruction and opted instead to incorporate them for the good of the country. And now this poo poo has metastasized, and wishing it were geographically contained is a pipe dream from the early 20th century. Confederate ideology has found its place in the official character of the United States. To take out the cancer now would cause tremendous damage to the body. They won't aggress because the counter-revolution doesn't need to act, it just needs to disorganize and demoralize. Also, poo poo sucks btw.

Don't underestimate the flourishing of a new wave of frustrated, inarticulate, obese caucasian jihad fighters. At the nexus of Glenn Beck, erectile dysfunction and job loss lies the genesis of the next one thousand spree shootings.

Doctor Butts
May 21, 2002

radical meme posted:

But this whole line of argument and messaging from conservative radio hosts is really unsettling to me. First, they are backtracking on decades of Constitution grandstanding. They have always held up the constitution as some of kind of infallible document and suddenly they are saying its broken and has been broken for years and needs to be fixed. I don't understand how that type of 180 degree marketing can sell to anyone.

Maybe my comprehension is off, but it sounds like Rush is saying that the constitution is fine, but its being trampled on.

paranoid randroid
Mar 4, 2007

Pander posted:

What the gently caress? Is buzzfeed like the 28 year old nostalgia machine?

When its not being a Koch Bros mouthpiece.

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!

Doctor Butts posted:

Maybe my comprehension is off, but it sounds like Rush is saying that the constitution is fine, but its being trampled on.



I think that's a pretty generous reading of someone praising a book about corrections the constitution needs that just happen to coincide with GOP goals across the board while calling the document shredded and bastardized.

Levin's book is reportedly just alternating passages of "The constitution is awesome!" and "Well except this part, which is liberals fault, so lets change that"

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost
Honestly, I'm glad that Levin is taking up as much bandwidth and attention as he is. I can't think of anything I'd rather see from the radical right than the lot of them blowing shitloads of time, money, and attention on trying to pass ridiculous Constitutional amendments that will never be introduced in the Senate, much less ratified. Let Levin and Limbaugh flap their jowls and slobber into their microphones while their legions of sorehead morons gibber for some Heritage Foundation vision of paradise that will never come to pass, they'll only fail and humiliate themselves.

ashgromnies
Jun 19, 2004

radical meme posted:

I'm really fascinated and appalled by Levin's book, The Liberty Amendments. I caught the first part of his show today and he spent an hour attacking this blog post in MediaMatters which described the book as, "electoral kryptonite for the Republican Party". Of course Levin defended his book primarily by saying that the liberal blogger wasn't smart enough to understand his brilliant ideas. The article points out that even Rush has praised the book:


But this whole line of argument and messaging from conservative radio hosts is really unsettling to me. First, they are backtracking on decades of Constitution grandstanding. They have always held up the constitution as some of kind of infallible document and suddenly they are saying its broken and has been broken for years and needs to be fixed. I don't understand how that type of 180 degree marketing can sell to anyone. Second, they are out right saying that voting is useless and will never change anything. This is the most toxic message I can think of to deliver to their base. They are now telling their base that voting will never result in achieving their goals. Sure, they are saying that the base needs to support change from their state legislatures but their message is just one step away from calling for actual violent revolution in place of democratic change. If you add in main stream conservative support for fantasy land ideas of secession like in Colorado, you have a real recipe for disaster.

I hear a lot of leftists saying the same thing about voting -- the entrenched powers are too strong to topple via voting and revolution and civil disobedience is the only way to bring about change.

Luckily we see that not to be true in actuality. Things in the US are becoming more progressive; such is the nature of our society it would seem, and nothing besides drastic action could derail that forward progress. Social conservatism is thankfully becoming more of a punch-line than an actual ideology, especially amongst younger voters.

BJA
Apr 11, 2006

It has to start somewhere
It has to start sometime
What better place than here
What better time than now

SedanChair posted:

I want to see Ted Cruz put on a watchlist for renouncing citizenship in a Commonwealth nation. :getin:

I saw this on facebook about ted cruz, made me laugh:

"I heard about this guy, with a funny foreign name, whose father was a foreign communist, with questionable american birthrights, went to two ivy league colleges, was the editor of the Harvard law review, has never had a real job or any executive experience, and is only a junior senator. say hello to Rafael Cruz!"

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!

Zeroisanumber posted:

Honestly, I'm glad that Levin is taking up as much bandwidth and attention as he is. I can't think of anything I'd rather see from the radical right than the lot of them blowing shitloads of time, money, and attention on trying to pass ridiculous Constitutional amendments that will never be introduced in the Senate, much less ratified. Let Levin and Limbaugh flap their jowls and slobber into their microphones while their legions of sorehead morons gibber for some Heritage Foundation vision of paradise that will never come to pass, they'll only fail and humiliate themselves.




I've been having the same attitude about the "Shut down the gubbermint if they don't stop Obamacare!" movement. The only thing that is at all possible that also resembles a win in that situation for them is an actual government shutdown. I don't want to see it happen but any Republicans with a clear view of the situation should be terrified of it. As of now I don't think that's very likely so if you ask me I say full speed ahead guys.

The most likely situation is that they cave and continue to pretend it was possible in the first place. In which case they blame some of their own for being RINO's in Obama's pocket and get the (yet again newly demoralized) base riled up against Boehner and McConnell. All because someone wanted to score some tea party points and make some campaign money by telling people the president is going to sign off on defunding his signature achievement. Meanwhile the nation gets stories about the GOP contemplating shutting everything down over what any journalist worth their salt would recognize as an impossible task.

It's becoming a self-fueling mess. Tea Partying crazy person comes up with new crazy idea with no chance of success, starts selling it as the newest Republican secret weapon to destroy Obama, other tea party crazies and RW blogs trumpet it with stories about how it's totally possible and leadership totally should love it, doesn't happen, crazy person says it would have worked if we had more tea partying crazy people and less RINO's, primary results in more tea party crazy people who come up with new crazy ideas that will destroy Obama, etc.

It's just a constant cycle of failure, an absolute unwillingness to recognize it as such, and responses that look like they were focus tested to determine the maximum amount of electoral damage they would cause. And there's new ones everyday.

HootTheOwl
May 13, 2012

Hootin and shootin

ReindeerF posted:

Can't figure out where this goes, so I'm putting it here:

http://www.buzzfeed.com/stevefriess/how-the-nra-built-a-massive-secret-database-of-gun-owners

Intuitive result of what the NRA is and what political marketing is today and it's something anyone could have put together, but somehow didn't until now that I've run across. Also, hilariously ironic in some ways. Of course they're the largest centralized database of gun owners in America who aggressively pursue external sources of data and of course their data is then for sale, whether they admit it or not.

Clearly the NRA is a CIA front along with Alex Jones.
And now it's on record!

Doctor Butts posted:

Maybe my comprehension is off, but it sounds like Rush is saying that the constitution is fine, but its being trampled on.
The solution to people not following the rules is more rules? If only we applied this to OTHER things mentioned in the constitution...

quiggy
Aug 7, 2010

[in Russian] Oof.


Major chemical weapons attack in Damasus with hundreds feared dead or dying. Let's see how FoxNews.com is handling the event, shall we?



:negative:

Mercury_Storm
Jun 12, 2003

*chomp chomp chomp*
At this point I kind of wonder if fox is just posting the most ridiculous headlines possible not to rile up their base, but for comedy value, like they're actually making a sincere attempt to compete with the Onion.

Pander
Oct 9, 2007

Fear is the glue that holds society together. It's what makes people suppress their worst impulses. Fear is power.

And at the end of fear, oblivion.



quiggy posted:

Major chemical weapons attack in Damasus with hundreds feared dead or dying. Let's see how FoxNews.com is handling the event, shall we?



:negative:

They really do think of everything that happens in a "how can this hurt Obama" way.

woke wedding drone
Jun 1, 2003

by exmarx
Fun Shoe
It's absolutely a fair (and balanced!) question. It's funny that the only way something like that makes headlines is as a gotcha. Unfortunately it's probably going to end up lumped in with nothing stories like Benghazi.

Dr Christmas
Apr 24, 2010

Berninating the one percent,
Berninating the Wall St.
Berninating all the people
In their high rise penthouses!
🔥😱🔥🔫👴🏻

quiggy posted:

Major chemical weapons attack in Damasus with hundreds feared dead or dying. Let's see how FoxNews.com is handling the event, shall we?



:negative:

Yeah, half of the posts about the violence in Egypt in the Political Cartoons thread show Obama looking dumb or inept. They really want to find anyway they can to trash Obama.

Necc0
Jun 30, 2005

by exmarx
Broken Cake
I don't know where else to post this but this thread seems like the best place, despite being the opposite of right wing media:

An article on bullshit jobs by strike magazine has been circulating the chatrooms at my job and it's being extremely well-accepted, even by the really right-wing types. These are all fairly well paid professional types, by the way. I've felt like the national zeitgeist has been shifting lately but this is the first concrete proof I have of it. The article has been so popular that it's wrecking their servers, you may not be able to get to it:

http://www.strikemag.org/bullshit-jobs/

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

Necc0 posted:

I don't know where else to post this but this thread seems like the best place, despite being the opposite of right wing media:

An article on bullshit jobs by strike magazine has been circulating the chatrooms at my job and it's being extremely well-accepted, even by the really right-wing types. These are all fairly well paid professional types, by the way. I've felt like the national zeitgeist has been shifting lately but this is the first concrete proof I have of it. The article has been so popular that it's wrecking their servers, you may not be able to get to it:

http://www.strikemag.org/bullshit-jobs/

There was a thread about it. It's not a very good article, but it does have a nonpartisan kernel of truth in it. Saying that late stage capitalism breeds socially irrelevant jobs and ennui isn't a particularly left wing or right wing statement. Especially when your political lens allows you to define bullshit jobs as "nosy lazy government regulators" or "nepotistic useless venture capitalists".

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Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!
Haahahahhahaha how did I miss this:

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/20...ant-vigilantes/

quote:

Two of Arpaio’s deputies were tracking potential drug smugglers in the dessert about an hour from Phoenix, when they encountered three heavily armed men dressed in camouflage. According to court documents, one of the men raised his rifle at the deputies and started “yelling commands.” When one of the deputies identified themselves as law enforcement, the armed man screamed back “you aren’t taking my weapons.”

Fortunately, this incident did not descend into bloodshed, and the man who challenged the deputies — a member of the Arizona Minuteman vigilante movement named Richard Malley — was arrested for aggravated assault. He is now out on $10,000 bail.

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