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If I haven't already, switch me from Imperialist to Socialist.
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# ? Aug 24, 2018 23:13 |
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Talas posted:Voting for the moderates is a step backward in history. Do you want to look at the future with proud eyes? Do you care for the sweat of your fellow worker? Do you care for our crumbling factories and poor commerce? Vote socialist, vote for a bright future. No, yes, no, yes. Moderates
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# ? Aug 24, 2018 23:14 |
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UNIRONICALLY voting moderate means retracting rights given to people so it literally is backwards from our current state.
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# ? Aug 24, 2018 23:22 |
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Taking rights away from the Catalonians and Portuguese is a great way to get them to emigrate, too. Plus, you know, they'll revolt, which will cost us pops and manpower and money. Or we could just let them keep their rights.
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# ? Aug 24, 2018 23:25 |
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Constantly killing your pops is really bad both morally and economically even in the actual game. It's an actual late game issue of constant fascist/communist rebellions basically draining the old world of all power. Sigh, our colonies were right to rebel. They're better off now that's for certain.
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# ? Aug 24, 2018 23:39 |
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I defect to the Socialists because we don't have ranked choice even though I want to keep loving around in the third world and remain Imperialists. I think people are overreacting on how bad our economy is we have like the second highest industrial score atm. Jack2142 fucked around with this message at 04:39 on Aug 25, 2018 |
# ? Aug 24, 2018 23:45 |
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Zikan posted:Ah Hohenzollern memories of goons owning themselves. I'm not sure if this is more glorious than the goons deliberately sabotaging the entire country to get the Andalusian Revolution and getting hit with a swarm of separatists, while Bavaria gets all the guillotines.
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# ? Aug 24, 2018 23:45 |
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Jack2142 posted:I think people are overreacting on how bad our economy is we have like the second highest industrial score atm. Industry score in V2 is solely based on number of factories and number of employed pops. The effectiveness of our industry doesn't matter at all. So while we have quantity, we don't have quality
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# ? Aug 24, 2018 23:52 |
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Frionnel posted:Industry score in V2 is solely based on number of factories and number of employed pops. The effectiveness of our industry doesn't matter at all. So while we have quantity, we don't have quality Considering we spent our first two decades basically doing nothing but building player-directed industry, we almost certainly have a better "quality" than any other country in the world.
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# ? Aug 24, 2018 23:55 |
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By quality i mean things like using less input and generating more output, extracting more from our RGOs, etc. And why not do even better? VVV Good luck getting a republic unless Hashim intervenes. Frionnel fucked around with this message at 00:02 on Aug 25, 2018 |
# ? Aug 24, 2018 23:59 |
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I will not rest until the rich are eaten. the imperialists, while imperialist pig-dogs, can live as the far right party in our new republic.
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# ? Aug 25, 2018 00:01 |
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Changing my votes from the Moderates to the Socialists.
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# ? Aug 25, 2018 00:17 |
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It's not going to make a difference but I've always voted for what I think would be most interesting to see and I don't really don't turtling very interesting. We need the industrial tech in theory but I'd rather we keep a proactive, risky foreign policy. Royalists.
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# ? Aug 25, 2018 00:32 |
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Socialist Let’s be the good guys for once.
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# ? Aug 25, 2018 00:53 |
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Tricky Dick Nixon posted:It's not going to make a difference but I've always voted for what I think would be most interesting to see and I don't really don't turtling very interesting. We need the industrial tech in theory but I'd rather we keep a proactive, risky foreign policy. Royalists. You know with your user name you could have just paraphrased Nixon on Futurama.
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# ? Aug 25, 2018 00:59 |
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Vote Socialist
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# ? Aug 25, 2018 01:07 |
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I mean, he’s absolutely not wrong. The two most boring parties are duking it out over whether to turtle for a decade, or to do that while making the occasional diplomatic overture. I definitely didn’t want to vote Moderate, but at least they plan on interacting with the rest of the world
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# ? Aug 25, 2018 01:09 |
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Brexiteers, all of you.
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# ? Aug 25, 2018 01:23 |
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Lord Cyrahzax posted:I mean, he’s absolutely not wrong. The two most boring parties are duking it out over whether to turtle for a decade, or to do that while making the occasional diplomatic overture. Scrubs want to interact with the world. Real Vickyheads interact with their own pops
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# ? Aug 25, 2018 01:30 |
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Lord Cyrahzax posted:I mean, he’s absolutely not wrong. The two most boring parties are duking it out over whether to turtle for a decade, or to do that while making the occasional diplomatic overture. Yeah. Socialists will just build railways for a decade, do nothing fun or interesting internationally, and then continue to do nothing on the international level besides releasing colonies. And then the goons will either continue to vote for the boring party, turning the fun Victoria 2 late game into railway tycoon, or they’ll get bored of the boring party and deliberately sabotage the nation. The one bright side about the socialists is that they might deprive the Maijis of their power, or try to at least.
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# ? Aug 25, 2018 01:36 |
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Red John posted:Yeah. Socialists will just build railways for a decade, do nothing fun or interesting internationally, and then continue to do nothing on the international level besides releasing colonies. The Socialists passing the odd political reform is the only way we're ever going to get Communism at this point.
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# ? Aug 25, 2018 02:01 |
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I can endure some splendid isolation for now, but if you guys try to stay out of World War I because socialism or whatever i'll be maddd
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# ? Aug 25, 2018 02:06 |
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I think y'all are ignoring that we can very much flip Imperialist again after the damage of Laissez Faire is healed a bit. And then run roughshod over a bunch of colonial rivals distracted by a Great War we never got bogged down in.
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# ? Aug 25, 2018 02:11 |
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Rodyle posted:The Socialists passing the odd political reform is the only way we're ever going to get Communism at this point. Didn't we discuss how socialists can't do political reforms though?
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# ? Aug 25, 2018 02:26 |
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the JJ posted:Didn't we discuss how socialists can't do political reforms though? They don't PRIORITIZE them, just as the Liberals don't social reforms.
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# ? Aug 25, 2018 02:31 |
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Besides that's ingame. Nothing keeping events at the dudes discretion if they feel like it fits.
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# ? Aug 25, 2018 02:33 |
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Socialists!
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# ? Aug 25, 2018 04:10 |
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gently caress it, switching my vote to Socialists.
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# ? Aug 25, 2018 04:33 |
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Gonna join the red tide with a vote for the Socialists
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# ? Aug 25, 2018 05:21 |
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It is time for a change, a change to the Moderates. It is time to invest in the future and continue to make Al-Andalus great.
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# ? Aug 25, 2018 05:26 |
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Socialists. The metropole won't run Angola in the interests of the natives any more than the Khedive will. The Khedive might be a bit more careful and work with the locals more if he's not getting a constant stream of young Andalusi men shuttled over to him to fill out his manpower pool, since the alternative is getting his head hacked off. I don't really see a single independent Andalusi Africa as plausible at this stage, it's noncontiguous and as likely to hold together as East and West Pakistan.
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# ? Aug 25, 2018 05:27 |
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Cycloneman posted:Socialists. Well, then you need to connect the two don't you? Like we of the Royalists are going to do.
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# ? Aug 25, 2018 06:02 |
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Crowsbeak posted:Well, then you need to connect the two don't you? Like we of the Royalists are going to do. There can be two African coastal countries that are former Andalusi colonies.
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# ? Aug 25, 2018 06:09 |
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Crowsbeak posted:Well, then you need to connect the two don't you? Like we of the Royalists are going to do. The Royalists are going to be too busy loving around in Narbuna and Fez to pretty up our colonial borders, though.
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# ? Aug 25, 2018 06:20 |
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MaxieSatan posted:The Royalists are going to be too busy loving around in Narbuna and Fez to pretty up our colonial borders, though. Look, we promise to ensure that there really is no Morrocan problem whatsoever in Africa. Or anywhere. Like I can really say they're never going to be a problem again if you vote for us and stop voting for losers like the Socialists really are. Believe me the socialists will just create huge problems like you never seen before if you let them in.
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# ? Aug 25, 2018 06:39 |
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Socialists for the sake of modernization.
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# ? Aug 25, 2018 08:19 |
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Socialists.
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# ? Aug 25, 2018 08:47 |
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Moderates
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# ? Aug 25, 2018 09:05 |
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Communist
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# ? Aug 25, 2018 09:44 |
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Socialists.
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# ? Aug 25, 2018 10:09 |