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habeasdorkus
Nov 3, 2013

Royalty is a continuous shitposting motion.
If I haven't already, switch me from Imperialist to Socialist.

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Silent Banana
Aug 24, 2009

Talas posted:

Voting for the moderates is a step backward in history. Do you want to look at the future with proud eyes? Do you care for the sweat of your fellow worker? Do you care for our crumbling factories and poor commerce? Vote socialist, vote for a bright future.

No, yes, no, yes.

Moderates

ChaseSP
Mar 25, 2013



UNIRONICALLY voting moderate means retracting rights given to people so it literally is backwards from our current state.

puppets freak me out
Dec 18, 2015

Taking rights away from the Catalonians and Portuguese is a great way to get them to emigrate, too. Plus, you know, they'll revolt, which will cost us pops and manpower and money.

Or we could just let them keep their rights.

ChaseSP
Mar 25, 2013



Constantly killing your pops is really bad both morally and economically even in the actual game. It's an actual late game issue of constant fascist/communist rebellions basically draining the old world of all power. Sigh, our colonies were right to rebel. They're better off now that's for certain.

Jack2142
Jul 17, 2014

Shitposting in Seattle

I defect to the Socialists because we don't have ranked choice even though I want to keep loving around in the third world and remain Imperialists.

I think people are overreacting on how bad our economy is we have like the second highest industrial score atm.

Jack2142 fucked around with this message at 04:39 on Aug 25, 2018

Gantolandon
Aug 19, 2012

Zikan posted:

Ah Hohenzollern memories of goons owning themselves.

“Time the give the people more rights!”

“If you pass this the thread will vote less and have less power.”

“Okay only some rights but still oligarchy!”

*reactionaries and socialists get angry*

“Everything is fin”*reactionaries overthrown government and throw entire goon oligarchy into prison*

I'm not sure if this is more glorious than the goons deliberately sabotaging the entire country to get the Andalusian Revolution and getting hit with a swarm of separatists, while Bavaria gets all the guillotines.

Frionnel
May 7, 2010

Friends are what make testing worth it.

Jack2142 posted:

I think people are overreacting on how bad our economy is we have like the second highest industrial score atm.

Industry score in V2 is solely based on number of factories and number of employed pops. The effectiveness of our industry doesn't matter at all. So while we have quantity, we don't have quality

Pakled
Aug 6, 2011

WE ARE SMART

Frionnel posted:

Industry score in V2 is solely based on number of factories and number of employed pops. The effectiveness of our industry doesn't matter at all. So while we have quantity, we don't have quality

Considering we spent our first two decades basically doing nothing but building player-directed industry, we almost certainly have a better "quality" than any other country in the world.

Frionnel
May 7, 2010

Friends are what make testing worth it.
By quality i mean things like using less input and generating more output, extracting more from our RGOs, etc.

And why not do even better?

VVV Good luck getting a republic unless Hashim intervenes.

Frionnel fucked around with this message at 00:02 on Aug 25, 2018

GSD
May 10, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo
I will not rest until the rich are eaten.

the imperialists, while imperialist pig-dogs, can live as the far right party in our new republic.

Odysseus S. Grant
Oct 12, 2011

Cats is the oldest and strongest emotion
of mankind
Changing my votes from the Moderates to the Socialists.

Tricky Dick Nixon
Jul 26, 2010

by Nyc_Tattoo
It's not going to make a difference but I've always voted for what I think would be most interesting to see and I don't really don't turtling very interesting. We need the industrial tech in theory but I'd rather we keep a proactive, risky foreign policy. Royalists.

Lord Windy
Mar 26, 2010
Socialist

Let’s be the good guys for once.

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

Tricky Dick Nixon posted:

It's not going to make a difference but I've always voted for what I think would be most interesting to see and I don't really don't turtling very interesting. We need the industrial tech in theory but I'd rather we keep a proactive, risky foreign policy. Royalists.

You know with your user name you could have just paraphrased Nixon on Futurama.

Kangxi
Nov 12, 2016

"Too paranoid for you?"
"Not me, paranoia's the garlic in life's kitchen, right, you can never have too much."
Vote Socialist

Lord Cyrahzax
Oct 11, 2012

I mean, he’s absolutely not wrong. The two most boring parties are duking it out over whether to turtle for a decade, or to do that while making the occasional diplomatic overture.

I definitely didn’t want to vote Moderate, but at least they plan on interacting with the rest of the world

SlothfulCobra
Mar 27, 2011

Brexiteers, all of you.

ThatBasqueGuy
Feb 14, 2013

someone introduce jojo to lazyb


Lord Cyrahzax posted:

I mean, he’s absolutely not wrong. The two most boring parties are duking it out over whether to turtle for a decade, or to do that while making the occasional diplomatic overture.

I definitely didn’t want to vote Moderate, but at least they plan on interacting with the rest of the world

Scrubs want to interact with the world. Real Vickyheads interact with their own pops :colbert:

Red John
Jul 12, 2018

Lord Cyrahzax posted:

I mean, he’s absolutely not wrong. The two most boring parties are duking it out over whether to turtle for a decade, or to do that while making the occasional diplomatic overture.

I definitely didn’t want to vote Moderate, but at least they plan on interacting with the rest of the world

Yeah. Socialists will just build railways for a decade, do nothing fun or interesting internationally, and then continue to do nothing on the international level besides releasing colonies.

And then the goons will either continue to vote for the boring party, turning the fun Victoria 2 late game into railway tycoon, or they’ll get bored of the boring party and deliberately sabotage the nation.

The one bright side about the socialists is that they might deprive the Maijis of their power, or try to at least.

Rody One Half
Feb 18, 2011

Red John posted:

Yeah. Socialists will just build railways for a decade, do nothing fun or interesting internationally, and then continue to do nothing on the international level besides releasing colonies.

And then the goons will either continue to vote for the boring party, turning the fun Victoria 2 late game into railway tycoon, or they’ll get bored of the boring party and deliberately sabotage the nation.

The one bright side about the socialists is that they might deprive the Maijis of their power, or try to at least.

The Socialists passing the odd political reform is the only way we're ever going to get Communism at this point.

Frionnel
May 7, 2010

Friends are what make testing worth it.
I can endure some splendid isolation for now, but if you guys try to stay out of World War I because socialism or whatever i'll be maddd

MaxieSatan
Oct 19, 2017

critical support for anarchists
I think y'all are ignoring that we can very much flip Imperialist again after the damage of Laissez Faire is healed a bit.

And then run roughshod over a bunch of colonial rivals distracted by a Great War we never got bogged down in.

the JJ
Mar 31, 2011

Rodyle posted:

The Socialists passing the odd political reform is the only way we're ever going to get Communism at this point.

Didn't we discuss how socialists can't do political reforms though?

Rody One Half
Feb 18, 2011

the JJ posted:

Didn't we discuss how socialists can't do political reforms though?

They don't PRIORITIZE them, just as the Liberals don't social reforms.

ChaseSP
Mar 25, 2013



Besides that's ingame. Nothing keeping events at the dudes discretion if they feel like it fits.

Anticheese
Feb 13, 2008

$60,000,000 sexbot
:rodimus:

Socialists!

iLurk
Jul 25, 2007

Who wants to get PREGNANT?!?
gently caress it, switching my vote to Socialists.

Eumenides
Sep 24, 2007

This is the face of Lawful Good!

Fun Shoe
Gonna join the red tide with a vote for the Socialists

Ninurta
Sep 19, 2007
What the HELL? That's my cutting board.

It is time for a change, a change to the Moderates. It is time to invest in the future and continue to make Al-Andalus great.

Cycloneman
Feb 1, 2009
ASK ME ABOUT
SISTER FUCKING
Socialists.

The metropole won't run Angola in the interests of the natives any more than the Khedive will. The Khedive might be a bit more careful and work with the locals more if he's not getting a constant stream of young Andalusi men shuttled over to him to fill out his manpower pool, since the alternative is getting his head hacked off.

I don't really see a single independent Andalusi Africa as plausible at this stage, it's noncontiguous and as likely to hold together as East and West Pakistan.

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

Cycloneman posted:

Socialists.

The metropole won't run Angola in the interests of the natives any more than the Khedive will. The Khedive might be a bit more careful and work with the locals more if he's not getting a constant stream of young Andalusi men shuttled over to him to fill out his manpower pool, since the alternative is getting his head hacked off.

I don't really see a single independent Andalusi Africa as plausible at this stage, it's noncontiguous and as likely to hold together as East and West Pakistan.

Well, then you need to connect the two don't you? Like we of the Royalists are going to do.

Cycloneman
Feb 1, 2009
ASK ME ABOUT
SISTER FUCKING

Crowsbeak posted:

Well, then you need to connect the two don't you? Like we of the Royalists are going to do.

There can be two African coastal countries that are former Andalusi colonies.

MaxieSatan
Oct 19, 2017

critical support for anarchists

Crowsbeak posted:

Well, then you need to connect the two don't you? Like we of the Royalists are going to do.

The Royalists are going to be too busy loving around in Narbuna and Fez to pretty up our colonial borders, though.

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

MaxieSatan posted:

The Royalists are going to be too busy loving around in Narbuna and Fez to pretty up our colonial borders, though.

Look, we promise to ensure that there really is no Morrocan problem whatsoever in Africa. Or anywhere. Like I can really say they're never going to be a problem again if you vote for us and stop voting for losers like the Socialists really are. Believe me the socialists will just create huge problems like you never seen before if you let them in.

Captain Mediocre
Oct 14, 2005

Saving lives and money!

Socialists for the sake of modernization.

PoorWeather
Nov 4, 2009

Don't worry, everybody has those days.
Socialists.

fish and chips and dip
Feb 17, 2010
Moderates

420 Gank Mid
Dec 26, 2008

WARNING: This poster is a huge bitch!

Communist

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Caustic Soda
Nov 1, 2010
Socialists.

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