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Diet Conan Doyle posted:However, they are two people who have no rapport with the forest whatsoever. Even if the court finds her behaviour rude and disrespectful, Annie's still the most qualified. It sort of depends on how the medium is chosen. If its purely appointed by the Court, they're going to want someone who's loyal to that side of the river which Annie clearly is not. Recall that Surma wasn't particularly neutral either, she was just biased in the opposite direction. Even if its chosen by consensus between the Court and forest, at this point Coyote is going to want
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Fecha posted:I imagine there are big trees or rocky areas in the forest--keep in mind we've barely seen anything of the months she spent there. And climbing shoes are designed to be tight and uncomfortable, so not great for hiking. Maybe she's climbing barefoot?  Annie's flippant 'tude is quickly being established as a concern, here. I wonder if it's going to be a Plot Issue that she's becoming too biased towards the Forest mode of thinking?
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Jul 4, 2012 23:07
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Zerilan posted:Coyote seems powerful enough to mostly just do whatever he wants anyway, especially while in the forest, which is probably part of the reason Eglamore always wears his formal dragon slayer suit when he goes over the bridge, since it also includes some manner of defending himself.
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Jul 5, 2012 01:55
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Glare Seethe posted:Speaking of the end of the comic, how far into it do you guys think we're in? Tea-san said he has an ending in mind so it won't go on forever, but he just started on it full-time a few months ago, and presumably he wouldn't have done so unless there was still a ways to go. If I had to guess, I'd say we're very near the beginning of Act 2 (if this were a traditional 3-act narrative, which is clearly isn't), roughly, and we've only just recently gotten there. Basically the point at which the setting and almost all main characters have been well-established, and we're seeing the beginnings of what might become ongoing conflicts for the protagonists to solve -- Jeanne, whatever Anthony is doing, more Court/Annie/Forest tension, Kat's Robot Cult, vague Zimmy Problems, and whatever else I might have forgotten. We don't know which of those "conflicts" are actually going to become the most central parts of the overall story, since GC is far from finished, plus GC's manner of story and character exposition is fairly non-traditional, so it's hard to point to a specific chapter and say "this is turning point where Act 1 transitions into Act 2." Though if I had to give an answer to that, I'd say it happens around Coward Heart, Fire Spike, and From the Forest She Came.
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Woah. Kinda off-topic, but I was just rereading a bit and noticed this page seems much more relevant in light of Kat's techno bird angel reveal: http://www.gunnerkrigg.com/archive_page.php?comicID=877 Notice the sky near the end, in particular. I never caught that before.
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Waffnuffly posted:Woah. Kinda off-topic, but I was just rereading a bit and noticed this page seems much more relevant in light of Kat's techno bird angel reveal: Isn't that Antimony's etheric presence, though? Kat isn't able to project hers.
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Jul 5, 2012 04:48
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Maybe I'm extrapolating too much but in light of one of last chapter's implications, panel 3 is kinda funny.
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Jul 5, 2012 05:14
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In terms of how long the Comic has to go - Annie is third year and I wouldn't be surprised if this does the usual school narrative thing and wraps up at the end of her last year. She's currently 9th, she has 10th, 11th, and two years of Sixth Form. Of course, how long each year is in terms of pages is entirely variable. I for one hope for exponential growth. MikeJF fucked around with this message at 06:31 on Jul 5, 2012 |
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Also, this is assuming that nothing happens to interfere or disrupt the school system 
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The Lord of Hats posted:Isn't that Antimony's etheric presence, though? Kat isn't able to project hers. Hmm, yeah, actually you're probably right. The trail looks like it's coming from Annie, not Kat. I just noticed how bird-like it is.
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Waffnuffly posted:Hmm, yeah, actually you're probably right. The trail looks like it's coming from Annie, not Kat. I just noticed how bird-like it is. We actually see Annie do that again in full ether-vison in Red Gets a Name.
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MikeJF posted:Of course, how long each year is in terms of pages is entirely variable. I for one hope for exponential growth. Courtstuck?
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ComradeCosmobot posted:Courtstuck? Your name is Your chumhandle is alchemicalConflagration and you type with strikingly impeccable diction. What will you do? Rasamune fucked around with this message at 19:35 on Jul 5, 2012 |
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Jul 5, 2012 19:30
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MERGE ALL BSS AVATAR FADS
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Rasamune posted:Your name is Retrieve blinker stone
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NO NO NO WE ARE NOT DOING THIS GET THE gently caress OUT
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Jul 5, 2012 22:09
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Meh, already been done.
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Pester posted:I'm having trouble getting any pages to load. DownForEveryoneOrJustMe posted:It's not just you! http://gunnerkrigg.com looks down from here. Stop hammering the archives, people, you're DoS'ing the site  .
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Jul 5, 2012 22:45
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Does it make me a bad fan if I want to see Annie taken down a peg? I really dislike when characters cross the line from confidence to arrogance, which I feel Annie has these past two pages.
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It's just because she's talking to Eglamore. Ever since she learned about "Jimmy Jims" things just haven't been the same between them.
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I like that Annie is being bolder. She's been threatened by a god and deceived by the Court and came through it all the stronger. I can't say I blame her for a bit of arrogance or rebelliousness.
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Cozz posted:Does it make me a bad fan if I want to see Annie taken down a peg? I really dislike when characters cross the line from confidence to arrogance, which I feel Annie has these past two pages. Well, I feel the same way. And really, Annie's had it happen in the past. Her trying to blast Jack during that party. And the whole conversation that had her run to the Court to begin with. I like to think that Annie isn't a character we're supposed to think of as 100% in the right and great all the time, but who actually can get cocky or even downright mean. (The Reynard thing.)
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Elysiume posted:I like that Annie is being bolder. She's been threatened by a god and deceived by the Court and came through it all the stronger. I can't say I blame her for a bit of arrogance or rebelliousness. She's come through it all the stronger, but she's still dealing with a Trickster God and a shadowy organization that has an almost Big Brother-esque system of control over its citizenry. She'd do well to know her place.
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Gunnerkrigg doesn't really seem like the kind of story that's going to end with Antimony lobotomized in a shadow government's secret facility ala Brazil.
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Not literally, but between whatever was going on with her and her dad(?) and what the court did to Jeanne once upon a time I wouldn't be too trusting  At the same time, I'm pretty sure the forest has plenty of dangers as well that she simply is ignoring or is ignorant of at the moment. Basically I think Annie is being too flippant about both sides 
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Gunnerkrigg doesn't seem that way to us, but she doesn't know that. Though in a kinda sometimes annoying reversal of the normal fortunes, she does know more than we do at this point still.
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Tom strikes me as the sort of writer who subscribes to the dictum that storytelling is about thinking of the worst thing that could possibly happen to your character and then making that happen.
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Bongo Bill posted:Tom strikes me as the sort of writer who subscribes to the dictum that storytelling is about thinking of the worst thing that could possibly happen to your character and then making that happen. So the same philosophy as Kazerad (Prequel)?
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Bongo Bill posted:Tom strikes me as the sort of writer who subscribes to the dictum that storytelling is about thinking of the worst thing that could possibly happen to your character and then making that happen. Really? Because I've yet to see a character get raped, tortured or murdered (or forced to watch said activities happening to love ones) in Gunnerkrigg. Well, maybe that green guy Jeane loved was murdered, but, hardly a main character.
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Dodgeball posted:Really? Because I've yet to see a character get raped, tortured or murdered (or forced to watch said activities happening to love ones) in Gunnerkrigg. Well, you don't have to be hyperbolic about it. It's the personal tragedies that produce a stronger result, not just generic calamity.
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I really don't want Annie to lose her hand from Coyote's bind (if it's still there), but I guess I wouldn't mind seeing her not be the first choice for medium or go serve a detention.
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Cozz posted:I really don't want Annie to lose her hand from Coyote's bind (if it's still there), but I guess I wouldn't mind seeing her not be the first choice for medium or go serve a detention. Nah, the bind fell off way back during 'From the forest she came', so unless Annie's really off the ball and lets Coyote put another one on her she should be good (if she'd even have a choice?) Also I think it'd be an interesting reversal of our and the characters expectations if the Court's higher ups decided that Annie was too uncontrollable/biased/a liability/etc. and stopped backing her for the position of Medium (at least temporarily).
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Bongo Bill posted:Well, you don't have to be hyperbolic about it. It's the personal tragedies that produce a stronger result, not just generic calamity. Reminder that the treatises have shown Annie and Kat growing increasingly further apart.
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Bongo Bill posted:Well, you don't have to be hyperbolic about it. It's the personal tragedies that produce a stronger result, not just generic calamity. A lot of really good things happen to Annie, too. She has great and interesting friends (a robot, a ghost, a shadow person, a teleporter, a guy who can manipulate fate, a talking/transforming plush toy, oh, and her BFF who's a science whiz), she gets to leave the monotony of the Court and visit a magical forest where she hangs out WITH A GOD. Oh, and bonus-sword that cuts through anything and a stone that lets her see things others can't. You said Tom makes his characters experience the worst things, but really, the worst thing that happened to Annie is her father's an (seemingly) uncaring parent, and her mom died. There's dragging a character through pointless toil and drama to make you feel empathy for said character, and then there's Gunnerkrigg Court. I am basically countering your notion of Tom putting his characters through "the worst" as a crutch for drama and just positing that he is writing drama (which is sprinkled with many moments of levity).
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Bongo Bill posted:Tom strikes me as the sort of writer who subscribes to the dictum that storytelling is about thinking of the worst thing that could possibly happen to your character and then making that happen. On another note, I do like Annie's flaws. They're not just a "suddenly I am a teenager and will yell and whine at everyone unreasonably" Harry Potter type deal. She isn't one-note-- her dissociation, angry fits, and smug condescension are all chronic and realistic phases she goes through. Kat's reactions to Annie leaving and finding out about Diego were really cool, too. There wasn't any "how dare you" melodrama, just a sort of simmering callousness to her.
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Go, Go, Wooden Arm-Stairs!
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Man, this page sure is pretty. And I love the arm reshapeing into branches for her to stand on.
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