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PhazonLink posted:Also , why isn't everyone rich? Phone posted:it's because they have a poor mindset, bing bong it's so simple 
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PJOmega posted:Source? I'm going to guess it's Thomas Frank's new book.
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Jul 21, 2017 04:48
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That would be correct. Get the Audible version, it's narrated by him. Listen, Liberal: Or, What Ever Happened to the Party of the People? The print/ebook version has a post-election epilogue though.
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Mister Facetious posted:That would be correct. Get the Audible version, it's narrated by him. Thank you, it sounds like a good read.
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Jul 21, 2017 04:55
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larry summers has probably done more to gently caress things up than any other american technocrats Clinton and Obama both relied heavily on him as The Expert, not only loving up our country but insuring that our handling of rehabilitating of post-Soviet Russia's economy was corruption/oligarchy friendly as humanly possible
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Jul 21, 2017 05:54
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The chapter on the movie 'Primary Colors" hits that nail right on the head.
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Jul 21, 2017 06:00
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AsInHowe posted:Why is Tucker spending so much time on that topic? Is he some kind of pervert? You know that joke about regressives being repressed homosexuals.
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Jul 21, 2017 06:18
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toanoradian posted:I don't get it. Even if you're working at McDonald's, you still deserve to be treated with respect and paid decently. Democrats used to be the party of unions and blue collar workers, but these days we only talk about getting an education and a "skilled" job.
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Ah, so the 'Better Skills' thing is a dog whistle against blue-collar (and thus 'unskilled') jobs? I see. I suppose I looked at "Better Skills" as like, retraining coal workers for green jobs. But then again, I am reminded that there are far fewer coal workers (~50 thousand) than there are McDonalds service people (~1 million).
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toanoradian posted:Ah, so the 'Better Skills' thing is a dog whistle against blue-collar (and thus 'unskilled') jobs? I see. I suppose I looked at "Better Skills" as like, retraining coal workers for green jobs. But then again, I am reminded that there are far fewer coal workers (~50 thousand) than there are McDonalds service people (~1 million). It's also placing the blame on the workers. Oh you just don't have the right skills, it's your fault. Not the capitalists rapidly looting this country and loving off to live as god-kings in Dubai. If only you knew how to code, then the structural inequities in our system would all disappear.
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Jul 21, 2017 06:41
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toanoradian posted:I don't get it. They're building in the idea that people who work minimum wage don't deserve a raise right into their slogans. If they try to use this as some kind of rallying cry then they will once again lose in 2018 and 2020 because they just can't stop running center-right republicans masquerading as democrats instead of progressives. This idiotic slogan is a symptom of their unwillingness to stop catering to the wealthy donor class at the expense of the people they need to convince to vote for them.
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empty whippet box posted:They're building in the idea that people who work minimum wage don't deserve a raise right into their slogans. I'm not even going to lie. This slogan confirms there is no blue wave coming. They are going to lose terribly and the ACA is going to be repealed thanks to the fact that Republicans will feel there are no penalties for actions anymore. If you think they're bad now, wait till they act when they think you can do everything they've done and suffer nothing.
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toanoradian posted:I don't get it. their grand strategy is for 50 year old coal miners to go to coding boot camp
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The Muppets On PCP posted:their grand strategy is for 50 year old coal miners to go to coding boot camp If they really go with this, they will actually lose seats in the House.
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Jul 21, 2017 06:52
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Covok posted:I'm not even going to lie. This slogan confirms there is no blue wave coming. They are going to lose terribly and the ACA is going to be repealed thanks to the fact that Republicans will feel there are no penalties for actions anymore. If you think they're bad now, wait till they act when they think you can do everything they've done and suffer nothing. Sincerely, from the bottom of my heart, shut the gently caress up you Chicken Little, South Park wannabe nihilist. This hand wringing woe is me wailing is beyond tiresome.
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The Muppets On PCP posted:their grand strategy is for 50 year old coal miners to go to coding boot camp This is basically the Jack Stanton speech in Primary Colors.  
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toanoradian posted:Ah, so the 'Better Skills' thing is a dog whistle against blue-collar (and thus 'unskilled') jobs? I see. I suppose I looked at "Better Skills" as like, retraining coal workers for green jobs. But then again, I am reminded that there are far fewer coal workers (~50 thousand) than there are McDonalds service people (~1 million). nah, blue collar often involves a respectable amount of skill the issue is displacing the responsibility of a good life onto the worker instead of guaranteeing a baseline for all, including unskilled ditch diggers
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PJOmega posted:Sincerely, from the bottom of my heart, shut the gently caress up you Chicken Little, South Park wannabe nihilist. This hand wringing woe is me wailing is beyond tiresome. Political success doesn't just happen, its the result of hard work. If the Dems fail to learn anything they will continue to lose. Long periods of one party dominating Congress is actual pretty common in US history.
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Mantis42 posted:Political success doesn't just happen, its the result of hard work. If the Dems fail to learn anything they will continue to lose. Long periods of one party dominating Congress is actual pretty common in US history. And pretending a Hannity-esque twisting of a random campaign slogan is the end of the Democratic party and whatever pretense of political accountability along with it is beyond tiresome.
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Jul 21, 2017 09:27
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PJOmega posted:And pretending a Hannity-esque twisting of a random campaign slogan is the end of the Democratic party and whatever pretense of political accountability along with it is beyond tiresome. I think he was trying to be ironic. I thought it was kind of funny, at least.
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Does "ironic [x] is just as bad as actual [x]" not apply to Arzying?
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PJOmega posted:And pretending a Hannity-esque twisting of a random campaign slogan is the end of the Democratic party and whatever pretense of political accountability along with it is beyond tiresome. Actually losing the presidency to a rapist cartoon character from RoboCop was the end of the Democratic party. One would think.
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Ynglaur posted:I think he was trying to be ironic. I thought it was kind of funny, at least. I don't think Covok "does" irony.
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PJOmega posted:And pretending a Hannity-esque twisting of a random campaign slogan is the end of the Democratic party and whatever pretense of political accountability along with it is beyond tiresome. It's especially funny because it isn't even the actual slogan. It's a sub-header to the actual slogan of "A Better Deal" i.e. calling back to the New Deal explicitly. The whole idea is that the overarching campaign is "A Better Deal" and then a candidate in one area (probably a rich one) might emphasize Better Skills i.e. making education work and be affordable. Some other candidate might go hard on Better Jobs, especially if they're in somewhere with really bad unemployment. And so on. So national level campaign work will hit the slogan and the various sub-slogans, various local entities will go harder on some of them in particular if they feel that's what the area responds to. And there's more than just the skills/jobs/wages stuff in the first place.
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PJOmega posted:And pretending a Hannity-esque twisting of a random campaign slogan is the end of the Democratic party and whatever pretense of political accountability along with it is beyond tiresome. The thing is that it isn't a campaign slogan, it's the title from an op ed Tim Kaine wrote back in May. The Official DNC Approved (patent pending) messaging is slated to come out next week, but some Dems on the hill rediscovered this to try to get some momentum built up. The main takeaway is that the Dems absolutely refuse to budge on means testing, and people can smell that bullshit from a mile away.
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Covok posted:I'm not even going to lie. This slogan confirms there is no blue wave coming. They are going to lose terribly and the ACA is going to be repealed thanks to the fact that Republicans will feel there are no penalties for actions anymore. If you think they're bad now, wait till they act when they think you can do everything they've done and suffer nothing. Get over it. Anyone who claims they know for sure what's going to happen sixteen months in advance is full of poo poo. It's good to be aware of problems, but the pessimism is ridiculous.
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Jul 21, 2017 17:47
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So how's the RWM going to take Spicer's resignation? "Wants to spend more time with his family"? Or, "Who?"
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Cannot wait till Todd Starnes or insert name here, responds to this because this is HUGE https://twitter.com/FFRF/status/888447385088733184 quote:The Kentucky Tourism, Arts, and Heritage Cabinet notified the operators of the Ark Encounter that it is in breach of its Tourism Development Agreement with the state. That agreement provides up to $18 million in state subsidies for the Ark project in the form of annual sales tax rebates. FFRF obtained records from the Cabinet today that include a July 18 notice sent to the operators of the Ark saying that Ark Encounter, LLC has breached the agreement following the sale of the property. The letter says that no further tax rebates may accrue as of June 28.
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MrUnderbridge posted:So how's the RWM going to take Spicer's resignation? They'll probably just end up pointing out that he did a terrible job and drew focus to himself in a way that didn't benefit the administration. The resignations this week are a very clear sign that Trump world continues to be in chaos, but there's no reason for it to penetrate the bubble. They'll soft peddle it with, "he was doing a bad job," and "it's just a low level staffing change." Unless Trump himself resigns from office there's no reason for the to ever need to grapple with the larger situation.
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No one told drudge that Trump is claiming to be one of the most productive, legislatively (and that's his distinction, bills through congress) I guess.
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HootTheOwl posted:No one told drudge that Trump is claiming to be one of the most productive, legislatively (and that's his distinction, bills through congress) I guess. No, he is the most productive president is still the narrative, but besides democrats, the useless congress not doing what he wants is an obvious blame target for his lack of doing anything except rapidly get fatter and older.
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Executive Orders, which are now good because the other side is issuing them.
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MrUnderbridge posted:So how's the RWM going to take Spicer's resignation? Noooo my Animal Farm references...
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MrUnderbridge posted:So how's the RWM going to take Spicer's resignation? Probably "he took all he could take from a media with an agenda and had enough". They'll blame the media. That seems to the go to move anymore since they can't blame congress or the president any longer. Having said that, it's not uncommon for press secretaries to resign over the last 10 or 15 years. That job has to seriously suck. Actually, Hillary Clinton probably is to blame come to think of it. Maybe Obama. Crabtree posted:No, he is the most productive president is still the narrative, but besides democrats, the useless congress not doing what he wants is an obvious blame target for his lack of doing anything except rapidly get fatter and older. Yeah, that Democrat controlled congress. BiggerBoat fucked around with this message at 23:34 on Jul 22, 2017 |
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