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Not really sure to post it, but snopes is dying and needs a lot of money to survive. I relied on that site to counter a lot of my racist aunt's memes.
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toanoradian posted:I remember before the election day when Beck said Obama made him a better man. How is the man still out there? My theory is that like a lot of people, Beck was pretty confident Trump was going to lose before the election. He talked down Trump a lot so that when Trump lost, he could say "Well see, I told you guys Trump wasn't a real conservative." Beck was very supportive of Ted Cruz, they seem to be pretty close friends, so Beck may have been setting up for a "You know if we'd actually nominated Cruz we could have won" type rant. The "Obama made me a better person and he wasn't actually out to destroy America after all, aw shucks I've had a change of heart" was definitely to sucker in the more left types by saying "See? I said Obama was a good person and Trump was bad, you should listen to me more!" Then it all got hosed up by Trump winning. He knew that if he continued on the "Trump is a fascist" train that his money was going to dry up fast, so he switched gears hard to complete support of Trump, while pulling the McCain "I have some concerns" line every once in a while (but also saying how liberals are the real danger so we need to support Trump against them).
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Jul 25, 2017 01:26
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seiferguy posted:Not really sure to post it, but snopes is dying and needs a lot of money to survive. I relied on that site to counter a lot of my racist aunt's memes. *Will of the Free Market™ joke here*
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Jul 25, 2017 01:29
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seiferguy posted:Not really sure to post it, but snopes is dying and needs a lot of money to survive. I relied on that site to counter a lot of my racist aunt's memes. God drat it. I visited the website, saw the Ted Nugent draft dodging story on the front page, and now whether or not he actually poo poo his pants in front of the army physician is "debatable."
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Jul 25, 2017 01:36
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seiferguy posted:Not really sure to post it, but snopes is dying and needs a lot of money to survive. I relied on that site to counter a lot of my racist aunt's memes. Unfortunately Snopes has been hit hard by the clumsy wielding of the "fake news" and "liberal media" bat.
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PJOmega posted:Unfortunately Snopes has been hit hard by the clumsy wielding of the "fake news" and "liberal media" bat. even worse: it's a contract dispute over advertising
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PJOmega posted:Unfortunately Snopes has been hit hard by the clumsy wielding of the "fake news" and "liberal media" bat. Yeah, I've definitely seen people say "who's fact checking the fact checker?" When it comes to snopes 
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Jul 25, 2017 01:52
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Yeah it's not lack of traffic, their site hosting had been taken over and they aren't receiving ad revenues.
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I'm gonna disable all my adblocker and click all the links, 10/7 and save Snopes! I'll even ask all my unemployed friends to do the same. But honestly, that's really lovely for the outside vendor to hold the site hostage like that.
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Jul 25, 2017 05:01
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Jul 25, 2017 05:16
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Someone tweet this to Tommy Vietor, from Pod Save America, he works for go fund me, and usually promotes worthy causes.
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That's a conman teaching how cons are done. To a mark.
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I think Sargon of Akkad needs to call his lawyer. Siccing the roiling mobs of Twitter on people who make him mad is schtick. ...Also relentlessly tweeting gay porn at people who hurt his fee fees, but I don't think Hannity's reached that point. Yet.
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"Stop watching FOX and reading Breitbart" Or taking Onion articles seriously. Yes, Sean, you insufferable dickhead, tell us more about "fake news" in between your segments on Seth Rich, rampant voter fraud, Pizzagate, ACORN, PP selling baby parts and how we really did find WMD's in Iraq. Also, get waterboarded, you gently caress, or shut your smug mouth. "Coming up next on Hannity!, a new video from James O' Keefe exposing he was able to register to vote in multiple precincts by pretending to be a Muslim female pimp heroin dealer". ... Unrelated, It's odd to me that there's not more noise in RWM media circles about Jane Sanders legal issues since they seem to be actually real and have some merit. Either they know there's nothing to it and is manufactured (but that never stopped them before) or simply figure nobody cares about "Crazy Bernie" anymore. BiggerBoat fucked around with this message at 20:34 on Jul 25, 2017 |
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Jul 25, 2017 20:25
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BiggerBoat posted:Or taking Onion articles seriously. Remember when we used to laugh at China doing that?
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Are they having a field day with their "victory?"
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Jul 25, 2017 20:41
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Covok posted:Are they having a field day with their "victory?" Oh God. Thanks for the news. I'm sure they are.
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Jul 25, 2017 20:57
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BiggerBoat posted:Oh God. Thanks for the news. I'm sure they are. Legitimately, sorry that's how you had to find out.
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Covok posted:Legitimately, sorry that's how you had to find out. Tbh, D&D is how I get most of my political news these days.
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Cythereal posted:Tbh, D&D is how I get most of my political news these days. Same. On a semi re-rail attempt: I subjected myself to about 5 minutes of Limbaugh this afternoon. Come to find out, some scientists have studied the brains of something like 80 dead, former NFL football players who willingly donated their brains to science and all but one had CTE. According to Rush, this is another liberal plot to pussify America and, I quote, "Attempt to ruin football and the NFL" for....um...reasons I guess. Turns out that paying minorities for bashing each other's brains in every week for the entertainment of the masses is detrimental to their long term mental health and these findings are apparently part of some left wing plot to ruin a multi-billion dollar industry because liberals hate anyone having fun or people making money. Or something. I'm paraphrasing here a lot of what I gleaned, but the quote I bolded is real and I made a point to remember it. Here's the study. Can't vouch for the sources. They were just the first google hits i got: http://heavy.com/sports/2017/07/cte-nfl-study-concussions/ http://www.latimes.com/science/sciencenow/la-sci-sn-football-cte-brain-20170725-story.html Rush was a real rear end in a top hat about it, even by his standards and listening to him angered me more than it unusually tends to when I subject myself to his bullshit. I think he still has a hard on for and an axe to grind wth the NFL because of his failed ownership attempt and being bounced from ESPN/MNF for being a racist rear end. I'd love to see Rush line up opposite Jason Peters, Trent Williams, Vincent Wilfork or Clay Matthews and last one even series of downs, no matter how many oxy's he pops, and call these human heavy bags overpaid and greedy while the team owner sits in his luxury box smoking cuban cigars and counts money. I guess anything short of a modern day Roman Colosseum or a fight to the death is "soft" for guy with a golden plated microphone. Let's get Rush on an NFL practice field (or even a team workout in August) while the team waterboy tortures Sean Hannity on the sidelines and have some real loving entertainment in this great nation. TL/DR: gently caress Rush Limbaugh (and Sean Hannity) now and forever
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So, since neither of you know the context, no bill has passed, just the motion to proceed. They are right now deciding which bill to vote on: BRCA, AHCA 2015 Repeal, or "Skinny Repeal." The problem is that the BRCA is not in line with reconciliation rules so they need 60 votes for it.
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Covok posted:So, since neither of you know the context, no bill has passed, just the motion to proceed. They are right now deciding which bill to vote on: BRCA, AHCA 2015 Repeal, or "Skinny Repeal." The problem is that the BRCA is not in line with reconciliation rules so they need 60 votes for it. So it's just bullshit posturing and allowing GOP members to be able to say they "voted on some poo poo" that will appeal to their voters in the midterms then? What a tremendous waste of time. Sound and fury and all that.
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Covok posted:So, since neither of you know the context, no bill has passed, just the motion to proceed. They are right now deciding which bill to vote on: BRCA, AHCA 2015 Repeal, or "Skinny Repeal." The problem is that the BRCA is not in line with reconciliation rules so they need 60 votes for it. So the vote was basically this https://www.nuklearpower.com/2008/10/23/episode-1050-an-informed-public/ in terms of actually getting anything done?
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BiggerBoat posted:So it's just bullshit posturing and allowing GOP members to be able to say they "voted on some poo poo" that will appeal to their voters in the midterms then? What a tremendous waste of time. Sound and fury and all that. Not exactly. They can still easily pass something. Right now, yeah, it's a bit of posturing. Voting on the BRCA and the Cruz amendment right now is mostly posturing and appeasing Cruz who wanted them. See, what they did is complicated. This MTP allows them to debate the house bill. Right now, they are trying to amend the house bill into the bill they want. The democrats have already resolved to force the clerk to read any amendment proposed in full. This doesn't count to their maximum of 20 hours of debate, but does drag out the process and make it both more arduous and gives time for special interest groups to pressure Republicans. The current amendment being read, which likely won't finish being read until 11pm tonight EST since the BRCA is 187 pages long, is likely not to pass, but still might. If it does, the democrats can counter it violates the Byrd rule and thus requires 60 votes. Republicans can then decide to override that with a 51 vote majority, but this nullifies the byrd rule forever and stops them from being able to counter that going forward. Then, the cruz amendment will be spoken. This can also pass. Time will tell. Then the 2015 full repeal. Very likely candidate for passing. Finally, the skinny repeal. A new angle they've taken that no one has had time to pressure Republicans against. It essentially makes the market implode on itself, but doesn't cut the most controversial issues. This will almost certainly pass if the others don't. Why? It avoids the big political landmines and it's the last thing they have so it has that added pressure of "this or having to say you couldn't do anything to repeal Obamacare" to your voters. I don't mean to sound like I'm saying Nothing Matters, but I feel it is safe to say with 100% certainty that some form of Obamacare repeal will be passed by the end of this whole ordeal. Once that MTP vote passed, it was kind of locked-in.
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Covok posted:This doesn't count to their maximum of 20 hours of debate, but does drag out the process and make it both more arduous and gives time for special interest groups to pressure Republicans. Required, not maximum, isn't it? And then after that debate is the barrage of amendment voting before McConnell brings bills up for a vote.
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Idran posted:Required, not maximum, isn't it? And then after that debate is the barrage of amendment voting before McConnell brings bills up for a vote. Yep, required, not maximum.
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The skinny repeal still cuts healthcare from like 15 million people, right? No way they can pull that off and get 60 votes. If it only requires 50 votes, write your drat wills, my friends.
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Die Sexmonster! posted:The skinny repeal still cuts healthcare from like 15 million people, right? No way they can pull that off and get 60 votes. It passes the Byrd rule, if you're asking. So, yes, it needs only 50+Pence. Cruz Amendment and BRCA need 60, IIRC. 2015 Repeal needs only 50 as well.
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30 years of Rush and his imitators, 20 years of FOX and the election of Trump honestly seem to have broken me. It's genuinely depressing and affects my daily mood in a tangible and noticeable way. I made my way through Bush and Cheney but this poo poo is just comically and terrifyingly ratcheted up to 11 right now, No joke. All I'm doing now is dividing the amount the money I have left by my life expectancy and hoping to teach my kid enough to let him navigate his life with a sense of humor and a hint of independence. Is this how conservatives felt for the last 8 years? Because if it is, maybe I can work out a logical path towards rediscovering my sense of empathy. I like your posts, Covok, and mostly agree with the things you write. I appreciate your contributions to the Trump thread and feel bad for all the poo poo you catch. Just wanted to say that. I'd PM you this but you don't have messages.
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Die Sexmonster! posted:The skinny repeal still cuts healthcare from like 15 million people, right? No way they can pull that off and get 60 votes. Way ahead of you ace. I can't wait for 24 hours to pass and the talking points to be disseminated so all my co-workers can talk about how great this all is during my lunch hour. I mean my half hour.
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BiggerBoat posted:30 years of Rush and his imitators, 20 years of FOX and the election of Trump honestly seem to have broken me. It's genuinely depressing and affects my daily mood in a tangible and noticeable way. I made my way through Bush and Cheney but this poo poo is just comically and terrifyingly ratcheted up to 11 right now, No joke. All I'm doing now is dividing the amount the money I have left by my life expectancy and hoping to teach my kid enough to let him navigate his life with a sense of humor and a hint of independence. That's a bit extreme, dude. I mean, I understand you may have actual health concerns which may mean that you are negatively affected by the outcome of this law, but it's best not to give in to despair. I don't know your home life and can't begin to assume how you cope with stress or what health concerns you may have, but I think it's best for you to take a little time to breathe and relax, if possible. Acting like this is not good for your mental and physical health, nor the mental health of your child. If nothing else, there is a little bit of hope we somehow pull this through and nothing has been decided 100% yet. I think you should take your time, talk with your loved ones, and consider that there this still might not be the end of the world. Giving into despair doesn't help anyone and catharsis is a urban myth ("venting" actually just breed the psychological desire to repeat the emotional state and/or action). You should try your best to enjoy yourself for your own mental health. I'd also suggest civic action, if possible, as that will not only help the world, but also your mental well-being. The fact you are helping to make a difference can help you get through things. Most importantly, if this does directly impact you, it is better to handle such planning with a clear mind than one overtaken by a lot of negative emotions. That can lead to rash and short-sighted decisions you may regret in the future. Trust me, I know this might seem insensitive or patronizing or a form of smugness from a place of comfort, but reading your post made me genuinely concerned for your wellbeing and I'm trying my best to help you. I'm not good at this so I'm not sure if any of what I said helps you, but I hope it does.
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Covok posted:That's a bit extreme, dude. drat man. I didn't mean for it to sound that harsh. I'm OK. Mostly worried for my son and a future I can't promise him. I'm beaten but comfortable with who I am . Just resigned for now. There's no gun in my mouth or anything. i honestly meant the part about wondering if this is what conservatives and dittoheads felt like under Obama though.
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It must be, because some of the old freeper posts describe my feelings about the current govt to a tee. I really do feel as though my country is being occupied by a hostile force with no respect for our values or laws. Just for different reasons.
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After the events of The Probability Broach and Hannity's successful trip back in time to prevent John Kerry's election in Ohio, Hannity breathes easy...until 2016 when Trump is elected President! Trump's election threatens to bankrupt Hannity's media career. Can Hannity recreate the Probability Broach and open a portal to 2016 to prevent Trump from being elected? Find out in... The Probability Broach 2: A Hill to Die On
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Good news, Snopes did manage to raise 600k of the 500k goal! The founder, David linked to this article on how that money is going to be used. I expected him to post the details in the actual page, but whatever. The article quoted David, who said the bulk of it is for staff salaries. The site calculates that Snopes had 16 members and assumes each are paid $6000/month, so the funds raised would be able to keep Snopes going for like six months. I do notice there's a lot of "must be those prostitution bills" in the comments though. Turns out it's based on Daily Mail's allegation, based on court records, that the other Snopes founder, Barbara, accused David of using money to pay for prostitutes. I don't want to link to Daily Mail, so I tried to find a less...outwardly right-wing websites about it, and there's not much. There are Forbes, who instead focused on the mystery of Snopes' organization and fact-checking system, and Guardian, who claimed that Daily Mail wanted to sow doubt about Snopes, because Facebook wanted to use it to help flag disputed stories. Have you guys ever heard about this allegation? toanoradian fucked around with this message at 14:59 on Jul 26, 2017 |
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Mantis42 posted:It must be, because some of the old freeper posts describe my feelings about the current govt to a tee. I really do feel as though my country is being occupied by a hostile force with no respect for our values or laws. Just for different reasons. I can see where this is coming from. It seems like the rule of law is applied arbitrarily with this administration. Ifyou're a member of the right team you can do what ever with no consequenses.
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BiggerBoat posted:drat man. I didn't mean for it to sound that harsh. I'm OK. Mostly worried for my son and a future I can't promise him. I'm beaten but comfortable with who I am . Just resigned for now. There's no gun in my mouth or anything. I'll be the optimistic one and say we will survive these 4-8 years. We will change drastically from it, but we will survive. I think the other leaders kind of realize how loving insane Trump is and won't take his threats seriously or recognize his egotistical need to look good and will use that. Trump will be the world's bitch, they just have to play their cards right and manipulate him. A dictator will look level-headed compared to Trump. We may not be certain of our futures, but humanity has a hell of a way of adapting. And at least with threads like this, we can know how the right are aiming their shots. You do us a good service, BiggerBoat. Oh, wait, sorry. I should be shitposting...erm...hail satan. bernie would've won. The piss tape is reall...radda radda.
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