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What about that Amanda Knox? Eh lads? Phwaor. I'd give er one. am i doing this right?
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Leyburn posted:Or correct apostrophe usage apparently! Hey man, no need for that kinda dirty play Realtalk: sebzilla is a cool dude, no way did he mean it the way you think he did
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Oct 22, 2011 13:04
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Why are we having this loving retarded argument? Have Yanks infiltrated the thread again?
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Oct 22, 2011 13:05
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Flatscan posted:Why are we having this loving retarded argument? Do you want the actual answer or the one that will make you feel happy
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Oct 22, 2011 13:06
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Flatscan posted:Why are we having this loving retarded argument? Have Yanks infiltrated the thread again? The loving mongs have infiltrated. [/gervais]
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Oct 22, 2011 13:07
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Kin posted:Between this and Rab C. Nesbitt for the last few weeks, it's been nice to see BBC shows tear the poo poo out of Tories. Hopefully it's only a matter of time now until Spitting Image makes a comeback and the other stations get stuck in too. I've been quite pleased with this series of Rab in general. It's been much funnier than the previous series of the comeback. As for the other stations having a go at the Tories too, I can't see ITV doing so, since they're extremely commercial and also show the most rampantly Tory things on TV; Jeremy Kyle and Downton Abbey. Plus I wouldn't want ITV bringing back Spitting Image since every attempt they've had at doing something similar since has been crap (2DTV and Headcases anyone?). No sense ruining Spitting Image's reputation. Channel 4 might be in for having a go, though. They've always been a bit edgier and tried to be more subversive and self-consciously alternative. Just so long as they don't try and use loving Dappy as a legitimate commentator on anything ever again. As for Channel 5, they probably couldn't care less unless the Tories somehow go after Kerry Katona or Louise Redknapp or whoever else is in Heat this week. As for whether freeview channels will go after them, probably not, but at the very least if the BBC does, then Dave will do so 6 months later.
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Oct 22, 2011 13:17
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John_Anon_Smith posted:You're correct. I must have missed the subtle wordplay and multi-tiered irony that was buried in that sentence. I guess I just don't have the mental fortitude to truly understand the Voltaire's and Shakespeare's of this thread such as yourself. I like to call that area: The chill zone  You are free to join me in the chill zone.
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Oct 22, 2011 13:28
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I don't know why they send her on to HIGNFY. I assume she's sent anyway, are political guests invited or volunteered? Anyway, she doesn't seem personally interesting and amusing to laugh at like Boris, nor quick witted enough to be there for raw comedy potential, nor self-deprecating enough to just be abuse fodder for the regulars like Lembit Opik. I could understand her going on there once, but the first time she was on was bad enough, why have her back? Controversy's sake?
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Oct 22, 2011 13:39
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Dicky B posted:There is in fact a rather large grey area between "100% literal" and "subtle wordplay and multi-tiered irony". I don't want to be in your loving chill zone. I got enough grief when I was younger (and still do) from well meaning chill guys not being 100% literal or serious about things. Racism is really funny if you don't *actually* mean it. If it's all just words and we can all just chill then we can all equally chill in the sense that if people get to be chill and make jokes about or using race and gendered insults then I get to be chill and call them hurtful, ignorant dipshits who should shut the gently caress up with their poisonous attitudes.
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Oct 22, 2011 13:39
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Oct 22, 2011 13:41
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Flatscan posted:Why are we having this loving retarded argument? Have Yanks infiltrated the thread again? Oh yeah that american stereotype: stupid, fat and likes pointing out others misogyny
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Oct 22, 2011 13:49
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goatface posted:I don't know why they send her on to HIGNFY. I assume she's sent anyway, are political guests invited or volunteered? I was thinking about this, I like to believe that whoever is responsible for getting guests feels pretty bad about BoJo becoming mayor, as a lot of people feel he looked pretty jolly on hignfy. Now they'll only have politicians who now act like irredeemable twats. That's what I like to think anyway.
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Oct 22, 2011 14:05
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John_Anon_Smith posted:If it's all just words and we can all just chill then we can all equally chill in the sense that if people get to be chill and make jokes about or using race and gendered insults then I get to be chill and call them hurtful, ignorant dipshits who should shut the gently caress up with their poisonous attitudes. Hatefuck is neither a gendered insult, nor is it racist, nor does it actually imply rape or lack of consent. But hey, right on man.
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le chat posted:Oh yeah that american stereotype: stupid, fat and likes pointing out others misogyny I was thinking along the lines of the American middle-class male women's/gay/minority rights armchair activists that spend all their time combing GBS for any tiny little thing they can have a poo poo-fit over because it makes them feel better about their worthless, lonely lives.
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Flatscan posted:I was thinking along the lines of the American middle-class male women's/gay/minority rights armchair activists that spend all their time combing GBS for any tiny little thing they can have a poo poo-fit over because it makes them feel better about their worthless, lonely lives. Literally anyone who doesn't care exclusively about white males is an armchair activist
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Oct 22, 2011 14:12
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Leyburn posted:Hatefuck is neither a gendered insult, nor is it racist, nor does it actually imply rape or lack of consent. But hey, right on man. It's pretty loving misogynist in that sense. "Let's not let characteristics beyond outward appearance get in the way of our assessment of this woman!" Flatscan posted:I was thinking along the lines of the American middle-class male women's/gay/minority rights armchair activists that spend all their time combing GBS for any tiny little thing they can have a poo poo-fit over because it makes them feel better about their worthless, lonely lives. Actually bringing poo poo like this up with people makes you feel embittered and depressed about how people care so much more about their right to use some trivial wordplay than they do about how entire sections of humanity might be treated like crap.
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Z-Magic posted:Literally anyone who doesn't care exclusively about white males is an armchair activist No. Not even close to what I said or implied. F, must try harder.
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Oct 22, 2011 14:14
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Flatscan posted:No. Not even close to what I said or implied. F, must try harder. I was pointing out that you're not the only one who can strawman.
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Oct 22, 2011 14:15
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josh04 posted:It's pretty loving misogynist in that sense. "Let's not let characteristics beyond outward appearance get in the way of our assessment of this woman!" I think the phrase fundamentally has to take into account other characteristics beyond physical appearance to even make sense... This isn't to say I'm a fan of it or anything. I already regret being dragged into this...
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Leyburn posted:Hatefuck is neither a gendered insult, nor is it racist, nor does it actually imply rape or lack of consent. But hey, right on man.
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Flatscan posted:I was thinking along the lines of the American middle-class male women's/gay/minority rights armchair activists that spend all their time combing GBS for any tiny little thing they can have a poo poo-fit over because it makes them feel better about their worthless, lonely lives. Your strawmanning/derailing is adorable  I like that people get called out on these things. Calling out people on being casually a shithead is something I tend to do offline (I'm a rep for a minority group in a couple of organisations), and I feel like there should be a bingo card for people's responses to it. Fakeedit: There totally is!  Wormophile posted:
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Cerv posted:for something that's not gendered it sure does seem to be exclusively applied to one gender!! Not that I've observed. I've heard or read it being used by a number of women in regards to men and, to bring the discussion back round to the thread topic, the only occurrence I can think of in British TV is Alex hatefucking Thatcherite business-men in Ashes to Ashes.
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Noreaus posted:I like that people get called out on these things. Calling out people on being casually a shithead is something I tend to do offline (I'm a rep for a minority group in a couple of organisations), and I feel like there should be a bingo card for people's responses to it. You can make whatever assumptions about me that you like. Where I come from (ie. the working class) pretty much every friend and family member of mine throws around words like chinky and paki without batting an eyelid and I won't hesitate to show my disapproval when they do so, even though they simply refuse to understand why it might be wrong to use such words. Throw up any image macro you like to try and discredit me. Frankly I find everyone's assumption that only men are capable of having sex with someone they dislike somewhat sexist in itself and fuelled by an old fashioned and stereotypical attitude towards women's sexual choices. (Well not really, but for all you know I could!)
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The image was only relevant to the other guy, who I quoted. Although now I guess it's relevant to you too! I would refrain from posting like I'm on tumblr (IE here is an image), but having to explain to people how they're using derailing tactics and arguing poorly is something you can only do so many times.
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Oct 22, 2011 14:47
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Can't you all just go back to having terrible opinions about Noel Fielding ?
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I don't find Noel Fielding funny but I haven't found anything he says objectionable. Whereas Stephen Fry has moved by inches into "smug arsehole who has a habit for making 'ladyboy' jokes" territory and I have trouble finding him as enjoyable as I used to. Also, did anyone else try to watch that "Fry's Planet Word" thing? Single most patronising piece of non-content I have ever chosen to try to watch.
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Rapey Joe Stalin posted:Can't you all just go back to having terrible opinions about Noel Fielding ? Providing nobody talks about hate-loving him.
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Phwoar lads, Noel Fielding is such a CILF (Comedian I Like because he's Funny)
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Oct 22, 2011 14:57
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Leyburn posted:I wonder who he slept with to get that team captain position? He didn't have to sleep with anybody, he just made up an unfunny whimsical song about melancholic jam milkshakes and wouldn't stop singing it until they gave him the position.
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Noreaus posted:Whereas Stephen Fry has moved by inches into "smug arsehole who has a habit for making 'ladyboy' jokes" territory and I have trouble finding him as enjoyable as I used to. Also, did anyone else try to watch that "Fry's Planet Word" thing? Single most patronising piece of non-content I have ever chosen to try to watch. Last night's QI was actually really good though. Prof. B. Cox is a pretty funny guy and now I know things about some of Saturn's moons! Also Ewoks (thanks very much Ross Noble).
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QI was indeed amazing last night. It reminded me of the earlier episodes where they actually had someone who was insightful rather on the panel as opposed to rotating between the same comedians every week.
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Noreaus posted:Whereas Stephen Fry has moved by inches into "smug arsehole who has a habit for making 'ladyboy' jokes" territory and I have trouble finding him as enjoyable as I used to. Also, did anyone else try to watch that "Fry's Planet Word" thing? Single most patronising piece of non-content I have ever chosen to try to watch. Stephen Fry had a leading hand in a long string of excellent comedy, both satirical and absurdest, before hitting forty and giving up satire because "nobody wants to see a fat old man mocking the government". Which is sad, but understandable. What's upsetting is that he didn't also decide to loving get off television. What's infuriating is the viewing public's tolerance for his new line in trade of lazily batting around his public persona for hours at a time. He is like an albatross hanging around the neck of BBC Light Entertainment, or maybe a long-deceased patient still hooked up to an IV in the hope that someday, somehow, that rotten corpse will walk again. e: Rapey Joe Stalin posted:Noooo. Mr. Squishy fucked around with this message at 15:32 on Oct 22, 2011 |
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How have people never heard "hatefuck" before? How did it cause so much fuss in the reserved, slightly twee, loves that baking show and Charlie Brooker, British TV thread? It shouldn't be offensive to women, it should be offensive to Louise Mensch.
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Hoops posted:How have people never heard "hatefuck" before? How did it cause so much fuss in the reserved, slightly twee, loves that baking show and Charlie Brooker, British TV thread? It shouldn't be offensive to women, it should be offensive to Louise Mensch. You realise it's offensive to Louise Mensch because she is a woman?
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John_Anon_Smith posted:You realise it's offensive to Louise Mensch because she is a woman?
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Please for the love of god noooo. LOOK a picture of Lorraine Kelly! Ahhhh how soothing. Everyone post your favourite pictures of Lorraine Kelly!
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