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It's weird seeing a car with no rear view mirror on the windscreen. I wonder how many they will sell here in the states?
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# ? Feb 27, 2013 05:02 |
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# ? Jun 1, 2024 05:16 |
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Where do I sign?
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# ? Feb 27, 2013 05:11 |
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That looks amazing.
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# ? Feb 27, 2013 05:15 |
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Seat Safety Switch posted:Rear wheel drive should be interesting with that track. Doesn't that reduce understeer? Not that this will be anyone's driver's car.
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# ? Feb 27, 2013 05:53 |
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TheFonz posted:W-hat? My original remark about the horsepower wars was in this context: Weinertron posted:I really hope this gets made because a 350hp $40k C7 would be awesome, but how on Earth will it sell to the carbuying masses when the V8 Mustang and Camaro are both ~420hp? Poorvette could be more fun to drive than a Mustang GT, and if they can't make it because the market won't see past the GT's 420hp, then to hell with horsepower wars. I intended my remark for that context and not as an indictment of horsepower in general.
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# ? Feb 27, 2013 06:06 |
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Zorak of Michigan posted:Your life may be better than mine but I can't see how I'd get more enjoyment out of a 450hp Corvette than a 350hp version. My S4 is quick enough that the real speed limit is my own courage and I'm not upgrading that. You have an S4 and you don't beat the poo poo out of it?
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# ? Feb 27, 2013 06:29 |
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350hp, ~3200lbs that did 0-60 in 5 seconds sounds like the C5 I've had for 10 years, but if I could get that in a package that got much better fuel economy with the C7's interior, I might hop on it once my daily driver was paid off instead of waiting 5 years for a proper used C7. This thread has convinced me, horsepower wars are over Edit: or could I just take this 5.3L engine and drop it in a C5, because pop-up headlights 4ever.
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# ? Feb 27, 2013 06:39 |
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Bob NewSCART posted:You have an S4 and you don't beat the poo poo out of it? I think he was just saying that his S4 is plenty fast for him. And that the additional 100hp out of a 6.0L 'Vette wouldn't make the car any more fun because the 350HP version would still have more horsepower than he (and many others) could reasonably use.
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# ? Feb 27, 2013 08:20 |
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Hell, it's rare that I even get to use the full 160hp of my completely ordinary car. It would kill me to drive around on normal roads in something with 3-400hp, knowing that I would hardly ever be able to use that power.
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# ? Feb 27, 2013 10:06 |
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gently caress the horsepower wars, that vw would save me £200 a month in fuel. Where do I sign?
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# ? Feb 27, 2013 10:57 |
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Jork Juggler posted:Here's an update from an article that is 11 months newer. The future is here, kids, and it will hit 62MPH in only 12.7 seconds. autoblog posted:The car uses a plug-in hybrid system to achieve mind-blowing consumption of just 0.9 liters of diesel fuel consumed every 100 kilometers (and average of roughly 261 miles per gallon). Also, I figured out why it's limited to 75mph. Those were the highest rated donuts they could find. Still, it's super-light-weight and mid-engine/rwd. I wonder how it handles with nice wide sticky tires, and how much extra hp can be eked out of the engine and electric motor with an ECU flash? grover fucked around with this message at 11:47 on Feb 27, 2013 |
# ? Feb 27, 2013 11:41 |
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Don't know if I missed it, but the 2014 Fiesta is priced. ST @ 21,4 plus delivery. Pretty competitive. Heated Recaros are the only option of note for $1,995.
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# ? Feb 27, 2013 13:26 |
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That VW XL1 reminds me so much of the Saab 92/93b/96, the rear in particular. Performance too… //edit: and weight. and displacement. eames fucked around with this message at 14:15 on Feb 27, 2013 |
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:Don't know if I missed it, but the 2014 Fiesta is priced. ST @ 21,4 plus delivery. Pretty competitive. Heated Recaros are the only option of note for $1,995. The 1.0l I3 turbo is supposed to be dropping as well but I don't see it on the configurator, if it doesn't cost too much more than the base then it might be a nice little 4 door FIAT 500 competitor.
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# ? Feb 27, 2013 14:34 |
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I'm shocked at how much made it over to production from the XL-1 concept. Though, of course, they're only going to make a handful. But still.
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# ? Feb 27, 2013 15:22 |
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Bob NewSCART posted:You have an S4 and you don't beat the poo poo out of it? It's my daily driver and I bought it new, so I've never gone beyond 9/10ths of its full capabilities, and I usually try to keep it at about 8/10ths. (Well, not deliberately. There was one time I almost missed a turn but decided to go for it, and I had the car wildly oversteering for a moment before the stability control brought it round. That got my heart beating.) My previous car, a 2006 WRX, was not quite fast enough for me to hit my limit of skill and courage. The S4 can definitely exceed that limit. I conclude that outside the track, a hp/lb ratio of about .08 will let the car do anything I'm gutsy enough to do. Therefore, beyond that level, I'd rather manufacturers focus on handling and then on either luxury or price than on piling up more power.
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:Don't know if I missed it, but the 2014 Fiesta is priced. ST @ 21,4 plus delivery. Pretty competitive. Heated Recaros are the only option of note for $1,995. Is it odd that the Focus ST is only like 3 or 4 thousand more? I guess you can option the ST up near 30 but it seems odd that they're so close together.
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# ? Feb 27, 2013 16:06 |
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eames posted:That VW XL1 reminds me so much of the Saab 92/93b/96, the rear in particular. But not fuel consumption. Not a strong point of the 2 stroke Saabs.
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# ? Feb 27, 2013 16:10 |
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Xguard86 posted:Is it odd that the Focus ST is only like 3 or 4 thousand more? I guess you can option the ST up near 30 but it seems odd that they're so close together. I was hoping the Fiesta ST would be closer to 19K, now its just too close to the FRS and Focus ST to justify. I'm eager to see how much the turbo 3cyl is going to be, that would be an amazing DD.
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# ? Feb 27, 2013 16:13 |
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Zorak of Michigan posted:It's my daily driver and I bought it new, so I've never gone beyond 9/10ths of its full capabilities, and I usually try to keep it at about 8/10ths. (Well, not deliberately. There was one time I almost missed a turn but decided to go for it, and I had the car wildly oversteering for a moment before the stability control brought it round. That got my heart beating.) My previous car, a 2006 WRX, was not quite fast enough for me to hit my limit of skill and courage. The S4 can definitely exceed that limit. I conclude that outside the track, a hp/lb ratio of about .08 will let the car do anything I'm gutsy enough to do. Therefore, beyond that level, I'd rather manufacturers focus on handling and then on either luxury or price than on piling up more power. If you haven't I highly recommend going to one of the Audi Driving Experience events if they have them in your area. You get to drive S4's and really see what the car is capable of. Total blast.
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# ? Feb 27, 2013 18:27 |
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Zorak of Michigan posted:It's my daily driver and I bought it new, so I've never gone beyond 9/10ths of its full capabilities, and I usually try to keep it at about 8/10ths. (Well, not deliberately. There was one time I almost missed a turn but decided to go for it, and I had the car wildly oversteering for a moment before the stability control brought it round. That got my heart beating.) My previous car, a 2006 WRX, was not quite fast enough for me to hit my limit of skill and courage. The S4 can definitely exceed that limit. I conclude that outside the track, a hp/lb ratio of about .08 will let the car do anything I'm gutsy enough to do. Therefore, beyond that level, I'd rather manufacturers focus on handling and then on either luxury or price than on piling up more power. Thats the problem with the S cars these days. I have an S5, and its a lot of fun to drive, but there is so much grip with the wide sticky rubber and quattro, and the electronics... I havent taken it to its limits because it scares the poo poo out of me, and I dont know what will happen once that line gets crossed, and not sure if I can reel it back in if it happens. It's the first car that I've driven/owned that I cant get there. RWD cars are a lot easier in that regard.
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# ? Feb 27, 2013 21:44 |
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Considering I find a lot of Chrysler cars to be hideous I don't know how effective he is.
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# ? Feb 28, 2013 00:32 |
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D C posted:Thats the problem with the S cars these days. I have an S5, and its a lot of fun to drive, but there is so much grip with the wide sticky rubber and quattro, and the electronics... I havent taken it to its limits because it scares the poo poo out of me, and I dont know what will happen once that line gets crossed, and not sure if I can reel it back in if it happens. Could you expand on this a little more? I'm not exactly sure on what you're saying. Because of the 4wd and the sticky tires it's hard to get the car in a place where you're feeling scared in your car, or?
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# ? Feb 28, 2013 04:10 |
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I think what he's trying to say is that because of all the traction, you have to be going at dangerous speeds to slide around. Contrast that with the BRZ/FT86/GT86, which comes with skinny prius tires so you can slide it around at slower speeds.
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# ? Feb 28, 2013 04:28 |
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Oh, that's what I thought he was saying but it was weirdly worded so I was a little lost. Yeah, something with some fat sticky tires plus an extremely solid AWD is a car you probably don't want to be sliding around.
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# ? Feb 28, 2013 04:53 |
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Bob NewSCART posted:Oh, that's what I thought he was saying but it was weirdly worded so I was a little lost. Yeah, something with some fat sticky tires plus an extremely solid AWD is a car you probably don't want to be sliding around. Modern cars- and modern tires- are just plain good. Even the "bad" cars seem pretty damned good. Horsepower wars and new suspensions have definitely improved the marketplace. grover fucked around with this message at 12:00 on Feb 28, 2013 |
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grover posted:I dunno, sliding around at high speeds is pretty damned fun, too, if done properly and in a safe environment. I mean, how can you know what the limit is if you never reach it? Or worse- TC kicks on in bad weather on a gravelly off-camber intersection once and you end up calibrating your butt dyno far too low and driving a high performance car like your grandma drives her buick? It's fun but like the original S5 dude said, getting that thing to slide due to driving it hard is practically a feat of strength, and it needs to be going dangerously fast to do so.
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# ? Feb 28, 2013 14:42 |
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Zorak of Michigan posted:My original remark about the horsepower wars was in this context:
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# ? Mar 1, 2013 17:26 |
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Let's talk about Corvettes some more. http://www.caranddriver.com/features/2014-chevrolet-corvette-stingray-in-depth-with-the-people-who-made-it-happen-feature quote:
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# ? Mar 2, 2013 14:09 |
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Meh.
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# ? Mar 3, 2013 06:17 |
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anonumos posted:Meh. That's a good looking car, even though the Stingray badge looks more like an electric guitar from the 80s
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# ? Mar 3, 2013 07:45 |
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Old news man. The new C7 news is the 'vert.
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# ? Mar 3, 2013 07:47 |
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anonumos posted:Meh. They done good is all that really needs to be said. Thing is beautiful.
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# ? Mar 3, 2013 17:31 |
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Devyl posted:Old news man. The new C7 news is the 'vert.
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# ? Mar 3, 2013 17:45 |
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anonumos posted:Meh. grover posted:My god that looks good. How much heavier is it than the coupe?
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# ? Mar 3, 2013 18:03 |
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You Am I posted:That's a good looking car, even though the Stingray badge looks more like an electric guitar from the 80s maybe not entirely accidental?
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# ? Mar 3, 2013 20:36 |
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My mate spotted a Cadillac ELR today and sent this to me. I rather like it
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# ? Mar 4, 2013 00:46 |
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I hope you don't need to shoulder check a lane change ever.
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# ? Mar 4, 2013 00:49 |
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Tusen Takk posted:
Why isn't a paintjob like this ever available from the factory?
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# ? Mar 4, 2013 00:56 |
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Fuzzy Pipe Wrench posted:Why isn't a paintjob like this ever available from the factory? I think it's a vinyl wrap . Someone would make a fortune if they started selling that print on eBay though.
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