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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:If the Democratic party wasn't so utterly corrupt and lovely, this would have never happened. Instead of blaming Russia, maybe you should blame the Democrats for being trash? Hey, another binary! Expand your mind and imagine a world where someone could blame BOTH!
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frakeaing HAMSTER DANCE posted:Hey, another binary! Hm, I don't hear the CNN blaming the Democrats, but they're certainly blaming Russia
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Apr 4, 2017 19:02
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new phone who dis posted:The two choices this time around were unrepentant corporate cocksucking warmonger and someone who was also that but lied about it and won. Anyone acting sanctimonious over this election needs to get the gently caress over themselves. If the Dems want to be the good guys, they have to act like it. Otherwise, they deserve 8 years of Trump. Trump has not shown himself to be a warmonger or a corporate cocksucker so far, there's obvious wheeling and dealing that needs to happen to keep the gears of politics moving but in terms of accepting corporate "donations" Trump has nothing on Clinton. Most of the criticism of Trump has been from people that have been riled up by biased news sources to believe he is a homophobe, a racist or a sexist. I have not seen a single piece of evidence for any of these allegations and the people slinging these allegations (the NEETs cosplaying as commie brownshirts) also sling them at scientists that wear tshirts with anime girls on them, youtubers that joke about hitler or people that wear MAGA hats like the filthy ultrahitlers they already believe them to be. In conclusion, JAIL CLINTON, BRING BACK McD's SZECHUAN SAUCE, NUKE MECCA AND gently caress THE MODS
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new phone who dis posted:loving LOL at the MSM and Obama admin getting clowned on by noted crazy gently caress Mike Cernovich. 
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Apr 4, 2017 19:04
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CNN now has "sources" claiming that it's false. Nobody named, of course.
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Apr 4, 2017 19:06
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:Hm, I don't hear the CNN blaming the Democrats, but they're certainly blaming Russia oh word? is CNN a poster here?
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Apr 4, 2017 19:10
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new phone who dis posted:
 Your piss-daddy is a lying idiot manchild and you're still dumb enough to defend him when he constantly falls on his face.
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Apr 4, 2017 19:13
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Him being right and having his poo poo incidentally collected just means he was in contact with people who are under investigation for some illegal poo poo which is still not really a good look and I wouldn't consider it vindication
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Blue Train posted:Him being right and having his poo poo incidentally collected just means he was in contact with people who are under investigation for some illegal poo poo which is still not really a good look and I wouldn't consider it vindication The government can just listen on whatever, and then unmask people to get dirt on them, and then use parallel construction to justify the findings You understand this
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Apr 4, 2017 19:17
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:The government can just listen on whatever, and then unmask people to get dirt on them, and then use parallel construction to justify the findings The article which alleges this uses this wording specifically quote:“Unmasking” is the process of identifying individuals whose communications were caught in the dragnet of intelligence gathering. While conducting investigations into terrorism and other related crimes, intelligence analysts incidentally capture conversations about parties not subject to the search warrant. The identities of individuals who are not under investigation are kept confidential, for legal and moral reasons.
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Apr 4, 2017 19:20
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Blue Train posted:Him being right and having his poo poo incidentally collected just means he was in contact with people who are under investigation for some illegal poo poo which is still not really a good look and I wouldn't consider it vindication literally everyone involved in politics in any way shape or form is throwing rocks from a glass house so who gives a poo poo
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I mean if they can listen in on whatever (which they can) there's no need to justify it by tying them to someone who is being investigated to get dirt on them, they can just listen in on their poo poo to get dirt on them
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Apr 4, 2017 19:21
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feelix posted:literally everyone involved in politics in any way shape or form is throwing rocks from a glass house so who gives a poo poo I'm autistic about using proper wording
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Blue Train posted:I mean if they can listen in on whatever (which they can) there's no need to justify it by tying them to someone who is being investigated to get dirt on them, they can just listen in on their poo poo to get dirt on them Yah and then when they get caught and nothing illegal is there, say "oops, we accidentally were spying, not on purpose"
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Apr 4, 2017 19:23
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:Yah and then when they get caught and nothing illegal is there, say "oops, we accidentally were spying, not on purpose" It's their job to spy on foreign officials, you moron.
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Apr 4, 2017 19:24
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imagine being such a red hat fucker bootlicker of rich white men you will defend them until the death
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Majorian posted:It's their job to spy on foreign officials, you moron. And then its their job to unmask Trump's associates, and then spread the information around?
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Piss de Bundy posted:imagine being such a red hat fucker bootlicker of rich white men you will defend them until the death No, whats better is imagine being a bootlicker for the NSA and CIA
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Apr 4, 2017 19:26
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How is it bootlicking anyone to say "the CIA and NSA monitor foreign officials all the time, Trump got swept up in that monitoring and no one targeted him specifically for political backstabbing purposes?" We shouldn't live in a police state sure but so maybe he should as the President dismantle some of that surveillance but he isn't doing that because...
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Apr 4, 2017 19:28
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COMRADES posted:How is it bootlicking anyone to say "the CIA and NSA monitor foreign officials all the time, Trump got swept up in that monitoring and no one targeted him specifically for political backstabbing purposes?" The scandal here is even if you assume that is true, he wasn't being targeted, that they revealed the names of his associates and loving leaked and spread the information for backstabbing purposes.
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Apr 4, 2017 19:29
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:The scandal here is even if you assume that is true, he wasn't being targeted, that they revealed the names of his associates and loving leaked and spread the information for backstabbing purposes. Man, I'd stop chatting it up with my neighborhood Russian agent ASAP.
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Apr 4, 2017 19:33
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Well yeah but welcome to politics. One of the myriad of ways it isn't like running a private company - leaks happen because people are motivated by all kinds of things including personal ethics or personal ambition and have no issues with loving over someone else to do it. Trump whining about leaks since day 1 just reveals that he doesn't understand that.
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Apr 4, 2017 19:33
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COMRADES posted:Well yeah but welcome to politics. One of the myriad of ways it isn't like running a private company - leaks happen because people are motivated by all kinds of things including personal ethics or personal ambition and have no issues with loving over someone else to do it. tbf that sounds like my company
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Apr 4, 2017 19:34
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:No, whats better is imagine being a bootlicker for the NSA and CIA LOL you shouldn't call anyone a bootlicker with Trump's shoe polish on your face, neck and chest
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Apr 4, 2017 19:34
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Burt Sexual posted:Man, I'd stop chatting it up with my neighborhood Russian agent ASAP. If there was actual collusion with Russian agents and illegal activity it would have been game over a long time ago, because obviously THEY WERE SPYING ON THEM lmao
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Apr 4, 2017 19:35
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Wow, the point of intersection where both the wiretapping claims and the Russian collusion claims ram into one another and implode the whole narrative
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Apr 4, 2017 19:38
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Do you understand that the wiretapping claim isn't just "we were surveilled" it was "Obama specifically ordered me wiretapped to sabotage my campaign" which is an entirely different thing? "Oh btw we were caught up in a sweep monitoring Russian foreign agents and officials" isn't some kind of silver bullet for anything. It doesn't prove his allegation against Obama nor does it make anyone more comfortable on the whole Russia ties front. None of these people give a hoot about the common worker anyway that much is clear. All the rest of this is just fluff. Trump can talk to every single Russian if he wants as long as he actually does something for the people but he isn't doing that, he is golfing and tweeting angrily about Fox News programs. COMRADES fucked around with this message at 19:41 on Apr 4, 2017 |
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Apr 4, 2017 19:39
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COMRADES posted:Do you understand that the wiretapping claim isn't just "we were surveilled" it was "Obama specifically ordered me wiretapped to sabotage my campaign" which is an entirely different thing? This russian seems to be speaking the truth. AV/Username checks out!
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Apr 4, 2017 19:41
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COMRADES posted:Do you understand that the wiretapping claim isn't just "we were surveilled" it was "Obama specifically ordered me wiretapped to sabotage my campaign" which is an entirely different thing? Yeah I guess it wasn't Obama it was Susan Rice who worked directly under him. At this point you're arguing that nixon didn't break into the office himself.
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Apr 4, 2017 19:42
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COMRADES posted:"Obama specifically ordered me wiretapped to sabotage my campaign" which is an entirely different thing? Would "Obama's administration ordered my associates to be unmasked in gathered surveillance to sabotage my campaign" work better for you
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What would work better for me is if Trump did anything meaningful to help the common American worker instead of continuing on now the third month of getting nothing at all accomplished and whining about all the reasons he can't do X Y and Z. He's the president. At some point the narrative of "he is trying he just can't do anything because entrenched politics" doesn't hold up. Maybe that time hasn't come yet but a year from now if nothing has been done yet? Two years from now? Has he even made his appointments yet? Seems to me like so far he has prioritized golf, tweeting, tax cuts and benefits for the rich and their companies, and...
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I wonder how many Chomsky fan boys who voted for Hillary would like to know what their hero thinks of their Russia hysteria at this moment: https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/849297950392164355 new phone who dis fucked around with this message at 19:49 on Apr 4, 2017 |
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COMRADES posted:What would work better for me is if Trump did anything meaningful to help the common American worker instead of continuing on now the third month of getting nothing at all accomplished and whining about all the reasons he can't do X Y and Z. Getting out of the TPP will be better for the US worker than anything Hillary had planned.
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Apr 4, 2017 19:47
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Hey, now, he did sign that law that lets ISP share your browsing history without your consent! That's something!
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Apr 4, 2017 19:48
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The Russia thing is completely overblown, I agree. I'd like to see it over and done with already so we can move on to actually trying to get things accomplished and hopefully the Senate/House probes are done soon.
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COMRADES posted:The Russia thing is completely overblown, I agree. I'd like to see it over and done with already so we can move on to actually trying to get things accomplished and hopefully the Senate/House probes are done soon. I agree. And if Trump sucks and sells out everyone you have a really pissed off country with no hope and a lot of rage against the establishment
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Cernovich on 60 Minutes - quote:I believe in some form of universal basic income," he told CBS’s Scott Pelley, citing concerns about technological unemployment. "I’m pro-single-payer health care. Is that right-wing or is that left-wing anymore? Well, if you have a lot of people, a large swath of the company, or country, are suffering, then I think that we owe it to all Americans to do right by them and to help them out." Party lines are being redrawn my friends, we all want the same things
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I support that.
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Apr 4, 2017 20:10
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Hey aren't we forgetting about something? *extremely 1950s radio voice* "the COMMIES!"
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Cmon Trump haters, get your poo poo together. Trump slew the Koch brothers and the entire GOP, then took down all the democrats who pulled out every single lying, cheating trick there is to try to stop him. Against all odds he somehow slipped in. If you're just going to yell about how bad he is and how he should be impeached, at the very least try to set up a good replacement in 4 years, use Trump winning as leverage to the existing powers that be that it could happen again. Don't rage about how terrible Trump is until you get something better to swoop into the power vacuum once he's gone.
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