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bewbies
Sep 23, 2003

Fun Shoe

Monocled Falcon posted:

What is the deal with Styker Brigade Combat Teams?

They could be useful, but they're practically lifted from combatreform.org with LAVs instead of M113s?

Is Mike Spark secretly the pseudonym of General Dunford?

Broadly speaking they've been incredibly useful since their inception although they have some pretty serious limitations that haven't really been tested in combat yet.

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philosoraptor
Nov 4, 2008
Soiled Meat

sullat posted:

Well, it's not like US navy ships are escorting merchants or doubling as treasure fleets. Or even doing too much anti-piracy ops until recently. A carrier fleet is just as much of a sunk cost as a tank battalion.

Well, that's the point. Nobody has to worry about free trade overhead like escorts or treasure fleets because the US Navy is so dominant. Likewise, nobody can refuse free trade because the US Navy is so dominant.

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


sullat posted:

Well, it's not like US navy ships are escorting merchants or doubling as treasure fleets. Or even doing too much anti-piracy ops until recently. A carrier fleet is just as much of a sunk cost as a tank battalion.

The existence of an overwhelming force can prevent piracy from happening. Kind of like how if a security organization is doing its job well you never have any break ins because everything gets headed off before that happens.

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

Are there any good sources on the first and second Chechen wars?

Mycroft Holmes
Mar 26, 2010

by Azathoth

StashAugustine posted:

Are there any good sources on the first and second Chechen wars?

GTAIV

JcDent
May 13, 2013

Give me a rifle, one round, and point me at Berlin!
Camera Operator Dies At The End

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa
As an afternote to the Tragedy of the Serbian Bag let it be noted that any attempt to wear military surplus items in the wild always, automatically and invariably ends up looking like this:

Splode
Jun 18, 2013

put some clothes on you little freak
He is also almost definitely a nazi.

aphid_licker
Jan 7, 2009


Nazi, gigantic idiot, who's counting

Tias
May 25, 2008

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aphid_licker posted:

Nazi, gigantic idiot, who's counting

The nazi inner circle was largely a group of criminally dorky kids who "ironically" posted on whatever they had back then( VierChan?) about killing jews, and people laughed at them for it until they had power enough to do it.

Tias fucked around with this message at 14:21 on Dec 21, 2016

JcDent
May 13, 2013

Give me a rifle, one round, and point me at Berlin!
"ironically" in this case

Tias
May 25, 2008

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Right. My point was that people we laugh at for being dumbshit Wilhelm cosplayers may well end up doing some really hinky poo poo later on.

500excf type r
Mar 7, 2013

I'm as annoying as the high-pitched whine of my motorcycle, desperately compensating for the lack of substance in my life.

StashAugustine posted:

Are there any good sources on the first and second Chechen wars?

This is generally regarded as a pretty good read:

https://www.amazon.com/One-Soldiers-War-Arkady-Babchenko/dp/0802144039

aphid_licker
Jan 7, 2009


And a bunch of perfectly unremarkable middle-of-the-road people figured that helping along with jew extermination was a prudent career move so yeah. I mean I'm all for not voting Rittmeister Scheisskopf there into public office.

JcDent
May 13, 2013

Give me a rifle, one round, and point me at Berlin!
I dunno, WWI Germany seems p. much distinct from Nazi Germany.

And come on, you know that a real Nazi would only dress up as Leibsguarde AH, because of course he's an aryan super soldier despite being an either fat or anemic acne-ridden nerd with greasy hair who could never run down a Jew.

Remulak
Jun 8, 2001
I can't count to four.
Yams Fan

JcDent posted:

of course he's an aryan super soldier despite being an either fat or anemic acne-ridden nerd with greasy hair who could never run down a Jew.

Leo Klinghoffer disagrees.


Jesus, I feel sorry for any children left alone with this guy.

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

Don't be assholes just because the dude is a Prussian fanboy.

bewbies
Sep 23, 2003

Fun Shoe
Is....that a picture of a fat dweeb wearing a plastic picklehelmet actually at his school?

broadly speaking I don't support bullying but it does have its place

Tias
May 25, 2008

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TheShitlordPlutonis posted:

Don't be assholes just because the dude is a Prussian fanboy.

it's not the prussia fandom, it's his smug goontitlement status poking fun at the nonhistorical sheeple that earns him contempt :ssh:

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

Tias posted:

it's not the prussia fandom, it's his smug goontitlement status poking fun at the nonhistorical sheeple that earns him contempt :ssh:

I'll defend anyone who upholds the four Ps. Prussia, Picklehaube, Paris Gun, Pflammenwerfer

Crazycryodude
Aug 15, 2015

Lets get our X tons of Duranium back!

....Is that still a valid thing to jingoistically blow out of proportion?


I mean, I've got a soft spot for Prussia/Imperial Germany but holy loving poo poo dude that just means I like to read about them and have naughty dreams about Bismarck. Why would wearing some cheap plastic Pickelhaube to school ever seem like a good idea?

P-Mack
Nov 10, 2007

A pickelhaube is a serious fashion faux pas unless paired with a really small leather vest and really big nipple rings.

SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009

Now the Drums beat up again,
For all true Soldier Gentlemen.

P-Mack posted:

A pickelhaube is a serious fashion faux pas unless paired with a really small leather vest and really big nipple rings.

You see this is a leather daddy stereotype we can all be comfortable with. No SS symbols in sight!

Hogge Wild
Aug 21, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Pillbug
what flag is that

Crazycryodude
Aug 15, 2015

Lets get our X tons of Duranium back!

....Is that still a valid thing to jingoistically blow out of proportion?


Hogge Wild posted:

what flag is that

Looks like Imperial German, though it's all folded so I'm not 100% on that, maybe the naval jack. Either way pretty popular with Nazis because it's about as close as you can get without actually carrying the Nazi flag.

Crazycryodude fucked around with this message at 16:43 on Dec 21, 2016

HEY GUNS
Oct 11, 2012

FOPTIMUS PRIME

Hogge Wild posted:

what flag is that

looks like the ww1 german naval jack to me, which is #1 with nazis

SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009

Now the Drums beat up again,
For all true Soldier Gentlemen.
It's Imperial Germany, which to be quite fair to anyone is very easily to confuse with the Nazi one because the formal one for the Nazi's replaces the Prussian Eagle with a swastika.

EDIT: Beaten by somebody posting quicker in Germany.

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa

Hogge Wild posted:

what flag is that

Crazycryodude posted:

Looks like Imperial German, though it's all folded so I'm not 100% on that.

Specifically the navy flag

or the Weimar era war flag depending on proportions

Hogge Wild
Aug 21, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Pillbug


thanks

yeah, it's probably this imperial naval jack

what's the deal with with far right worshipping naval jacks?

SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009

Now the Drums beat up again,
For all true Soldier Gentlemen.
Don't they use that one in Germany as a replacement for the swastika version in pop culture stuff too? to get past the symbol censorship?

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

Nenonen posted:

As an afternote to the Tragedy of the Serbian Bag let it be noted that any attempt to wear military surplus items in the wild always, automatically and invariably ends up looking like this:



it's not the Third Reich it's the Second Reich, furthermore

MikeCrotch
Nov 5, 2011

I AM UNJUSTIFIABLY PROUD OF MY SPAGHETTI BOLOGNESE RECIPE

YES, IT IS AN INCREDIBLY SIMPLE DISH

NO, IT IS NOT NORMAL TO USE A PEPPERAMI INSTEAD OF MINCED MEAT

YES, THERE IS TOO MUCH SALT IN MY RECIPE

NO, I WON'T STOP SHARING IT

more like BOLLOCKnese
Someone should probably tell the nazis that the WWI German navy was an absolute hotbed of socialists and they were the ones who actually performed the so called "stab in the back" mutiny to end the war.

SeanBeansShako
Nov 20, 2009

Now the Drums beat up again,
For all true Soldier Gentlemen.

Hogge Wild posted:

what's the deal with with far right worshipping naval jacks?

Well I assume it is because they are super obsolete and they have a distant relation to 19th century/early 20th century Imperialism when ALL WAS GOOD to them?

We still use ours thank god. Our right wingers like to use the St Georges Flag and just scribble rascist bullshit in hilariously tiny awkward font on the red cross.

MikeCrotch posted:

Someone should probably tell the nazis that the WWI German navy was an absolute hotbed of socialists and they were the ones who actually performed the so called "stab in the back" mutiny to end the war.

Like they actually know these things or make any effort to absorb facts outside Hitlers Big Bad Book Of Hate.

HEY GUNS
Oct 11, 2012

FOPTIMUS PRIME

MikeCrotch posted:

Someone should probably tell the nazis that the WWI German navy was an absolute hotbed of socialists and they were the ones who actually performed the so called "stab in the back" mutiny to end the war.
i wanna hang with these aquatic leftists

Tias
May 25, 2008

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HEY GAL posted:

i wanna hang with these aquatic leftists

When you think about it, a harpoon is basically a submersible pike

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

SeanBeansShako posted:

Don't they use that one in Germany as a replacement for the swastika version in pop culture stuff too? to get past the symbol censorship?

HoI4's was the kriegsmarine's flag except with the iron cross instead of swastika.

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa

Hogge Wild posted:

what's the deal with with far right worshipping naval jacks?

have you looked at the Russian naval ensign and what country's flag resembles it?? :finland:

Ensign Expendable
Nov 11, 2008

Lager beer is proof that god loves us
Pillbug

Nenonen posted:

have you looked at the Russian naval ensign and what country's flag resembles it?? :finland:

Nova Scotia isn't a country.

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Crazycryodude posted:

I like to read about them and have naughty dreams about Bismarck.

Explain.

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bewbies
Sep 23, 2003

Fun Shoe
Wasn't the High Seas Fleet a hotbed for gays as well as socialists? Or am I misremembering something

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