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Danaru posted:I'm no ethics major or anything but sweet jesus yes expose him it sucks for the hospital but also he's a literal child rapist. I cannot even imagine thinking "well a couple of raped children is just the price we pay for a hospital funding It's a common ethics question that's been around forever--do you allow a few people to suffer in order to spare a huge number from suffering? (see: The Ones Who Walk Away from Omelas) Personally I find it horrifically sociopathic, but it's something that a good number of people are OK with, especially if they don't see the suffering.
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Volcott posted:If you wouldn't personally kill a baby to save 10 babies you're a bad person. I'm such a good person I didn't even have to consider the ten babies. 
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Gen X: Exposing this scandal is a complex ethical question, as the lives of etc. etc. ... Millenials: Exposing this scandal is going to cause so many Twitter meltdowns
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Something something trolley problem.
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Mak0rz posted:He's... He's still at it, if you're wondering I like that dude is arguing about using Normal People words instead of Educated People words but he's doing it with a shitload of ten dollar words to try and look smarter than everyone else. Screaming Idiot posted:How toxic is your ideology when incels dunk on you? I can't tell if it's a serious post or some kind of ten levels of irony thing.
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lol just lol if you think ethics matter for people with power under capitalism anyone with 1 million or more in assets should be shot
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But what if someone has, like, a big hunk of platinum and they chuck it at you and you catch it and now you're the rich rear end in a top hat and you have to shoot yourself. We need safeguards, is what I'm saying.
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CheesyDog posted:Gen X: Exposing this scandal is a complex ethical question, as the lives of etc. etc. ...  Sorry, what do you think people are saying here?
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Danaru posted:I'm no ethics major or anything but sweet jesus yes expose him it sucks for the hospital but also he's a literal child rapist. I cannot even imagine thinking "well a couple of raped children is just the price we pay for a hospital funding It was not even hypothetical. this was literally an ethics lecture concluding with "Do not expose Jimmy Saville!" while technically not mentioning his name. He was Britain's dirtiest, most open secret for decades. Everyone knew. The BBC, the government, the royals, the NHS, you name it, they knew of it. As for why he was given a key to the morgue? My sad guess is someone thought it was better he diddled dead kiddies. If he had access to enough stiffs he might leave the live ones alone... 
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where is a giant world ending comet when you need one?
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sneakyfrog posted:where is a giant world ending comet when you need one? 
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That the seemingly complex ethical standards of journalism have always largely been a fake moralizing of decorum to protect the rich and powerful, and that a generation that grew up under social media has cast them aside in favor of embarrassing the elite whenever possible
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CheesyDog posted:That the seemingly complex ethical standards of journalism have always largely been a fake moralizing of decorum to protect the rich and powerful, and that a generation that grew up under social media has cast them aside in favor of embarrassing the elite whenever possible Yeah! Isn't it great?!
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Volcott posted:But what if someone has, like, a big hunk of platinum and they chuck it at you and you catch it and now you're the rich rear end in a top hat and you have to shoot yourself. I think you’re overestimating the average goon hand-eye coordination
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I understand that some of the victims of Saville's abuse had complained to hospital management, only to be told to keep quiet about it. Quite a lot of people clearly don't care about sexual abuse all that much.
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Volcott posted:But what if someone has, like, a big hunk of platinum and they chuck it at you and you catch it and now you're the rich rear end in a top hat and you have to shoot yourself. I'm a millennial, dying doesn't worry me. CheesyDog posted:That the seemingly complex ethical standards of journalism have always largely been a fake moralizing of decorum to protect the rich and powerful, and that a generation that grew up under social media has cast them aside in favor of embarrassing the elite whenever possible ethics is a field focused on finding how to justify the current social order and always has been, no gods no masters smoke weed erryday
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It's kind of amazing that if pizzagaters didn't believe that Trump and his ilk are white hat pedophiles, they'd actually be pretty drat close to being right.
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Speaking of which, Dersh having a right normal one. https://twitter.com/AlanDersh/status/1102030042379370496
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The whole Savile protection stuff is such bullshit. It's not like there's not enough tax avoiding philantropy funds to go around. If someone hosed him over, rich people would be stumbling over themselves to be the person who saved the hospital from the pedophile they just protected a pedophile for effectively nothing and that's the end of the story
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nerdz posted:The whole Savile protection stuff is such bullshit. It's not like there's not enough tax avoiding philantropy funds to go around. If someone hosed him over, rich people would be stumbling over themselves to be the person who saved the hospital from the pedophile  Most of those tax avoiding philanthropy funds are also run by pedophiles
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actually rich people spent like three decades stumbling over themselves to make sure that a peer in their class would never suffer consequences
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I mean, I'm just saying that using "but what about the kids" as an excuse was absolute bullshit. Like you said, the real issue here are the rich people protecting each other and their deviant interests
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I'm surprised nobody tried to bring him down. There wasn't anyone out there with nothing to lose?
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The Scottish comedian Jerry Sadowitz has been openly calling Saville a paedophile on stage since the 1980s. It was never a secret.
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Panfilo posted:I'm surprised nobody tried to bring him down. There wasn't anyone out there with nothing to lose? How long have people known about R. Kelly? And it still took a documentary and resulting public outcry (in an era when we care a lot more about sexual offenses) to get law enforcement to actually move on the creep. People knew about Saville and publicly made jokes and comments on it, but the people in position to actually stop him didn't want to.
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CheesyDog posted:Gen X: Exposing this scandal is a complex ethical question, as the lives of etc. etc. ... Millennials: Maybe leaving a child rapist free to rape kids in exchange for donations to one hospital isn't a good idea. Gen X: Yeah, but it's just a few kids getting raped, lol
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Yeah! Isn't it great?!  Absurd Alhazred posted:Speaking of which, Dersh having a right normal one. when you're Extremely Innocent
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Whoa wait, when did Gen X become the bad guys. Younger Boomers are still in charge of everything.
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Krispy Wafer posted:Whoa wait, when did Gen X become the bad guys. Younger Boomers are still in charge of everything. When you grew up and sold out man
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Krispy Wafer posted:Gen X... Younger Boomers
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Krispy Wafer posted:Whoa wait, when did Gen X become the bad guys. Younger Boomers are still in charge of everything. Have you seen Reality Bytes? They've always been terrible.
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Well poo poo. Guess it's time to yell at kids on my lawn.
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CheesyDog posted:That the seemingly complex ethical standards of journalism have always largely been a fake moralizing of decorum to protect the rich and powerful, and that a generation that grew up under social media has cast them aside in favor of embarrassing the elite whenever possible The solution is to expose the rich kiddyfucker and then donate everything he owns to charitable causes when he's languishing in jail eternally. Boom, eat poo poo, ethical conundrum.
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Skwirl posted:Have you seen Reality Bytes? They've always been terrible. Or Rent? Eugh.
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Pththya-lyi posted:Don't trust anyone over thirty
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Krispy Wafer posted:Whoa wait, when did Gen X become the bad guys. Younger Boomers are still in charge of everything. It was a riff off of Cheesydog's post
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Krispy Wafer posted:Whoa wait, when did Gen X become the bad guys. Younger Boomers are still in charge of everything. Gen X was the generation that could’ve done something, but never really did beyond writing songs and movies complaining then just sat on its rear end waiting for someone else to fix everything. I’m at that age where I could either be a young X or an old millennial, and I’ll take the millennial.
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