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ol yeller
Feb 20, 2015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-Qm1ez_BMY

ol yeller fucked around with this message at 17:40 on Aug 4, 2015

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Yuzenn
Mar 31, 2011

Be weary when you see oppression disguised as progression

The Spirit told me to use discernment and a Smith n Wesson at my discretion

Practice heavy self reflection, avoid self deception
If you lost, get re-direction

Harley C posted:

But two people just died tho?

Rappers?

The last one being murdered I know of was Chinx; Fatal died in a car accident...

HorseRenoir
Dec 25, 2011



Pillbug
A bunch of people like Capo and Big Glo died recently in Chicago.

the_american_dream
Apr 12, 2008

GAHDAMN

Wamsutta posted:

Puffy is actually Stringer Bell from the Wire, iirc

the_american_dream
Apr 12, 2008

GAHDAMN

Harley C posted:

But two people just died tho?

Lol do you mean like in the last week? Orr

Robawesome
Jul 22, 2005

the_american_dream posted:

Lol do you mean like in the last week? Orr

Last night at OVO fest

gohmak
Feb 12, 2004
cookies need love
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SKttg6YVtI

Complex doing some actually music journalism.

Yuzenn
Mar 31, 2011

Be weary when you see oppression disguised as progression

The Spirit told me to use discernment and a Smith n Wesson at my discretion

Practice heavy self reflection, avoid self deception
If you lost, get re-direction

HorseRenoir posted:

A bunch of people like Capo and Big Glo died recently in Chicago.

Chicago is in a league of it's own that's why I made them my exception to the "rap beef ain't real" rule

JIZZ DENOUEMENT
Oct 3, 2012

STRIKE!

alansmithee posted:

I don't think that's a hot take at all. Hybrid was really good and Old, while it was good, had a lot of issues. He said himself how he was trying to make festival songs since he's been touring so much. It's just Old came out when he had a lot more visibility.

And it's only been a couple of years since Old came out, it's just the release cycles have gotten super distorted imo. I mean I think he had like 4 albums in 3 years or something prior (Old, XXX, Black and Brown, and The Hybrid) so probably just needed a break. I know he's still been touring. I'm pretty sure his next album will be at least as good as Old (feel free to throw this in my face if it sucks).

OLD was split between introspective, dark raps and festival bangers. I get it if you don't like Danny doing festival bangers. Either as a genre, or just devoting that much of the album to them. But pretty much all his festival banger tracks are really successful at being festival bangers. And pretty much all his dark tracks are really successful at being dark tracks. It's a great compromise between people wanting the old (:haw:), serious Danny Brown and the newer party/fun stuff. You get your cake and eat it too.

Look at this loving track list. There's what, Wonderbread and Dubstep as the only mediocre tracks? (and poo poo I actually like Wonderbread).


I'm a huge proponent of Danny and I've been beating his drum in on SA since like 2011, so I get that I'm definitely a bit biased here. But it makes no sense to me how people in this thread can be dick-riding other party/festival/ignorant/drunk rap music then turn around and blast OLD for doing the same. And better.

Henchman of Santa
Aug 21, 2010
Puffy is actually his character from Get Him to the Greek

JIZZ DENOUEMENT
Oct 3, 2012

STRIKE!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZa2lY9CFyM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DG_lZK5AK9Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yn60Lvj_Qhk




smdh if you don't know Smokin & Drinkin by heart

spoils
Nov 2, 2012

gohmak posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SKttg6YVtI

Complex doing some actually music journalism.

this song is real good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKsxLFePj2A

bows1
May 16, 2004

Chill, whale, chill

Yeah it is good.

Wheres that old reference track that had 50 doing all of eminem's verse on a track? same beat. Or maybe it was vice versa?

40 lbs to freedom
Apr 13, 2007

honestly people keep saying how meek lost this battle which is definitely true in the short term but when drakes new album comes out i have a really hard time believing there isnt going to be a big public 'yo like who actually wrote this poo poo tho'

Bismack Billabongo
Oct 9, 2012

New Love Glow
If he comes with good music nobody is gonna care but crusty old heads who talk about lyricism too much and nerdos who think hip hop peaked with decks verse on triumph. Those people hate drake anyway

JIZZ DENOUEMENT
Oct 3, 2012

STRIKE!

Anaranjado posted:

If he comes with good music nobody is gonna care but crusty old heads who talk about lyricism too much and nerdos who think hip hop peaked with decks verse on triumph. Those people hate drake anyway

Yeah. It's been said before but Drake transcended from rap into full pop star awhile ago. Win or lose (not gonna happen), the beef is meaningless to his image and to his sales.

vanbags
Dec 6, 2003

An ape.

alansmithee posted:

All those security with guns didn't stop Puff from solo slapboxing Drake.

And I'm not talking about what's sensible, or logical. You're 100% right. But dudes who are supposed to be "hard" aren't necessarily the most logical when it comes to stuff like that. And if you gonna let someone slap you around 1 on 1 with no problems, you're probably not gonna start throwing if someone pees on your shoes a bit.

And w/r/t Puffy being "soft"-the stuff I always heard was that dude runs his mouth when he got bodyguards and poo poo, but whenever he's around "real" dudes he shuts up quick. But this is all rumor and internet stuff so it's obviously not the most accurate.
I don't really want to spend too many words derailing this thread by speculating on who's "real" because that is cornball poo poo, but there's a lot of interesting stuff I would strongly recommend you look into regarding Puffy. He might not be your idea of "hard" in the sense of Gucci Mane squaring up with random dudes in the middle of a mall, but he's well connected and his father Melvin Combs was in business with Frank Lucas and PeeWee Kirkland, who Pusha T famously reminded us was a "legend in two games." His childhood friend and later "bodyguard" Wolf was gunned down for trying to kill Big Meech of all people. And I'm sure you're already familiar with his association with C Gutta and D Roc. The Southside Crips used to run security for him and Biggie when they went out west.

He's well connected and very wealthy, which makes him "hard" enough that I wouldn't gently caress with him over a petty slap to the face, but that's just me.

I AM BRAWW
Jul 18, 2014

vanbags posted:

I don't really want to spend too many words derailing this thread by speculating on who's "real" because that is cornball poo poo, but there's a lot of interesting stuff I would strongly recommend you look into regarding Puffy. He might not be your idea of "hard" in the sense of Gucci Mane squaring up with random dudes in the middle of a mall, but he's well connected and his father Melvin Combs was in business with Frank Lucas and PeeWee Kirkland, who Pusha T famously reminded us was a "legend in two games." His childhood friend and later "bodyguard" Wolf was gunned down for trying to kill Big Meech of all people. And I'm sure you're already familiar with his association with C Gutta and D Roc. The Southside Crips used to run security for him and Biggie when they went out west.

He's well connected and very wealthy, which makes him "hard" enough that I wouldn't gently caress with him over a petty slap to the face, but that's just me.

that's just you tho.. alansmithee would kick his rear end.

the_american_dream
Apr 12, 2008

GAHDAMN
Yea i agree with alan on most poo poo you're just way off base on puff in this instance

monkeu
Jun 1, 2000

by Reene
You're not a real tough dude unless you're so insecure in your masculinity that you need to resort to violence at every chance.

7 RING SHRIMP
Oct 3, 2012

monkeu posted:

You're not a real tough dude unless you're so insecure in your masculinity that you need to resort to violence at every chance.

Because that's what anyone was saying.

You're also a bitch if you don't think Steve Stoute getting a champagne bottle cracked over his head is funny

Yuzenn
Mar 31, 2011

Be weary when you see oppression disguised as progression

The Spirit told me to use discernment and a Smith n Wesson at my discretion

Practice heavy self reflection, avoid self deception
If you lost, get re-direction

monkeu posted:

You're not a real tough dude unless you're so insecure in your masculinity that you need to resort to violence at every chance.

You and McGruff going to teach us how to say no to drugs too? I mean come on at least try to follow here: One rapper calls another soft because he got pissed on. The other rapper makes a living telling people how hard he is and that he's the realest. The reality is that rappers make a living telling stories and most of them involve bravado and exaggeration and even if he got pissed on no one cares though because being tough as a rapper hasn't mattered for commercialism in a decade plus.

Yuzenn fucked around with this message at 02:25 on Aug 5, 2015

Robert Analog
Feb 16, 2008

shyah
It's real obvious when a Canadian posts

Besson
Apr 20, 2006

To the sun's savage brightness he exposed the dark and secret surface of his retinas, so that by burning the memory of vengeance might be preserved, and never perish.
Kanye has had people ghost write his beats for years ("Down and Out" comes to mind) and his reputation as a visionary producer is intact.

Drake will be fine because he has a broad audience and all that audience cares about is if they like the tunes.

temple
Jul 29, 2006

I have actual skeletons in my closet
Boi-1da is pronounced boy wonder.

I AM BRAWW
Jul 18, 2014
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFa243iT_P8

temple
Jul 29, 2006

I have actual skeletons in my closet

d0s posted:

Does anyone know/have any articles or something explaining how "urban" radio got like this/the reasoning behind it? I don't remember it being this repetitive when I listened a lot in middle/high school (mid-late 90's). I actually like Fetty but it's not an exaggeration to say he's in every other song right now and certain other songs just get played really heavily to the point where even if you like them it's annoying. It's like radio is trying to get people to turn it off and listen to the MP3s on their phone or something, I'm just wondering what the logic is. I don't notice it nearly as much when I listen to the rock station or whatever.
Clear Channel stations. Which is weird cause when I go out of my city, I hear stations that play whatever they want. But back home, its kiddy trap music all day.

temple
Jul 29, 2006

I have actual skeletons in my closet
The internet ain't poo poo



Robert Analog
Feb 16, 2008

shyah
Snitching isn't cool

RBX
Jan 2, 2011

Really reaching for those RTs

gucci bane
Oct 27, 2008



Puff dance in the videos tho

t a s t e
Sep 6, 2010

Fonzworth Bentley rolled with Osama back in the day, poo poo

smoke sumthin bitch
Dec 14, 2009

by FactsAreUseless

Besson posted:

Kanye has had people ghost write his beats for years ("Down and Out" comes to mind) and his reputation as a visionary producer is intact.

Drake will be fine because he has a broad audience and all that audience cares about is if they like the tunes.

whaaaat that was my favorite kanye beat :qq: man thats messed up

temple
Jul 29, 2006

I have actual skeletons in my closet
Free Bobby

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBXniiEgmMk

^burtle
Jul 17, 2001

God of Boomin'



What are the chances this Big Boi project is any good?

ThatBasqueGuy
Feb 14, 2013

someone introduce jojo to lazyb


^burtle posted:

What are the chances this Big Boi project is any good?

70/30, can swing 15 points either way depending on how much you thought 3k carried Outkast.

abraham linksys
Sep 6, 2010

:darksouls:

^burtle posted:

What are the chances this Big Boi project is any good?

the Phantogram tracks on his last record were some of the weakest on an already-not-great album, I'm not super optimistic

I'll still go to bat for Sir Lucious Left Foot but Vicious Lies was pretty bad in retrospect

Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010

I HATED the Phantogram tracks so I can't imagine liking this album.

Yuzenn
Mar 31, 2011

Be weary when you see oppression disguised as progression

The Spirit told me to use discernment and a Smith n Wesson at my discretion

Practice heavy self reflection, avoid self deception
If you lost, get re-direction

Besson posted:

Kanye has had people ghost write his beats for years ("Down and Out" comes to mind) and his reputation as a visionary producer is intact.

Drake will be fine because he has a broad audience and all that audience cares about is if they like the tunes.

How do you ghost write a beat? Do you mean someone else produced or created the beat for him or do you mean someone wrote the hook? Cause if so that's pretty normal in the industry.....producing the track has to be the most farmed out part of making a song for 99% of artists.

Pharrell downright tells people what cadence and rhythm to perform their verses/hooks to, and Kanye makes dudes re-write their verses until it matches his vision for the song. Seen that commercial where Dre makes Kendrick stop rapping until he gets it right? Well that kind of stuff happens but its different than borrowing without credit and acting like its yours.

You are right though, Drake will be just fine even though.

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abraham linksys
Sep 6, 2010

:darksouls:
the worst thing about Vicious Lies is that Little Dragon got replaced on Mama Told Me. the original is way better

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlTF22hsIu8

it's still not a great track but at least it has a unique voice on it

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