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America sucks and everything but it's kind of funny when people are like "I went to an American diner and there was so much food no wonder you're a fat country" It's kind of the schtick of the diner in general and there's supposed to be way too much and you bring it home or split it or whatever. It's like getting mad at Japanese food because you went to a Tokyo hotel ayce buffet lunch. Also I can't remember the last time I ate at a loving diner it's not exactly like a common thing for most people. There's plenty of real reasons to hate it here without inventing new ones
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# ? Jun 1, 2023 17:11 |
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# ? Jun 12, 2024 19:48 |
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The reason to hate American diner food is years of being burned by tasteless "sawmill gravy" or any of the ten thousand photos I have posted in the Americana thread tbh. the fact that certain types of restaurants give you x amount of poo poo is such a boring thing to even think about
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# ? Jun 1, 2023 17:14 |
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I also have never had a pancake that was sweet without adding toppings. In the US anyway, in Japan I have. I have pancakes like twice a year? Sometimes the craving appears and you gotta pancake. hallo spacedog posted:There's plenty of real reasons to hate it here without inventing new ones It's very weird.
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# ? Jun 1, 2023 17:17 |
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Quit krapfen on my plate and tellin' me it's a pancake
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# ? Jun 1, 2023 17:30 |
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Pancakes are nice, but I prefer crumpets. Is there a US equivalent of a crumpet? I've seen them compared to biscuits or english muffins, but they are pretty different from either.
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# ? Jun 1, 2023 17:41 |
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hallo spacedog posted:There's plenty of real reasons to hate it here without inventing new ones The tone of my post wasn't meant to be hating on the US and its food, I was just replying to the guy who seemed to be surprised by the idea that US-style pancakes were perceived as unhealthy. The difference between a French breakfast of a croissant and coffee and US style stack of pancakes comes down to quantity. The diner was just the first example that was relevant because we were talking about pancakes. Obviously people don't eat there all the time but it'd be like going to a cafe in the UK and being served a full English breakfast with a free side of crumpets or whatever. Excess on top of excess. But it's not contentious to say that portions are universally huge across the US in most kinds of restaurant. That's a good and a bad thing.
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# ? Jun 1, 2023 18:00 |
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That's my point though, you're supposed to take the food home not eat it all
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# ? Jun 1, 2023 18:08 |
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Pookah posted:Pancakes are nice, but I prefer crumpets. Is there a US equivalent of a crumpet? I've seen them compared to biscuits or english muffins, but they are pretty different from either. I never had them, but I pictured them more like English muffins. Looks like they're actually cooked up on the stovetop though, more like a yeasty pancake?
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# ? Jun 1, 2023 18:09 |
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the reason to hate american diner food is the utter contempt for their customers even though it's a "small town local business that cares." Bullshit. Those places are always mega dirty and the food quality sucks, and they know it cause every small business owner in america is a legit psycho.
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# ? Jun 1, 2023 18:14 |
My attitude toward pancakes is roughly in line with Mitch Hedberg's
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# ? Jun 1, 2023 18:33 |
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LifeSunDeath posted:the reason to hate american diner food is the utter contempt for their customers even though it's a "small town local business that cares." Bullshit. Those places are always mega dirty and the food quality sucks, and they know it cause every small business owner in america is a legit psycho. This is the true diner experience. Low effort food still half-assed on the dirtiest cooking areas possible. The appeal is really, for me, that I can go get a double bacon and a triple stack on the side with a milkshake for lunch. I am a bit confused if people think plate size pancakes are the side order ones. I'm used to huge pancakes as a main and smaller ones coming in a side stack.
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# ? Jun 1, 2023 18:49 |
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Pookah posted:Pancakes are nice, but I prefer crumpets. Is there a US equivalent of a crumpet? I've seen them compared to biscuits or english muffins, but they are pretty different from either. The crumpet equivalent is basically just crumpets themselves, or certain airy bubbly pancakes. You can find them in some places here, but not commonly. They're still in that "imported British food" genre, but are much less ubiquitous than English muffins or scones.
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# ? Jun 1, 2023 19:44 |
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The kind of people who can distinguish a crumpet and an English muffin is the sort of people who talks about crumb and hydration ratio and checks temperature oven or griddle temperature with a high precision element. Who are my sort of people but let me tell you, we are not that popular with others.
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# ? Jun 1, 2023 19:49 |
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Schubalts posted:What loving American pancake recipes are people seeing that have a ton of sugar in the batter itself? Not even American boxed pancake mix has a noticeable amount of sugar in it (one right in front of me is 8 grams of sugar in a 61 gram serving of dry mix). What people are calling American pancakes is a recipe brought there by Scots migrants. In Scotland and parts of Ireland they're what people will assume you're talking about if you say pancake. If you want to talk about the thin ones you have to refer to them as crepes. Americans get a pass on the sugar content because look at this poo poo (they're slightly smaller than the American variants too): I usually make a cut across the top and throw a big hunk of butter in there while they're still in the pan. They're also a staple of an Ulster Fry, which is the Northern Irish equivalent of a Full English Breakfast, so also a breakfast item in parts of the UK.
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# ? Jun 1, 2023 20:02 |
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Butterfly Valley posted:The tone of my post wasn't meant to be hating on the US and its food, I was just replying to the guy who seemed to be surprised by the idea that US-style pancakes were perceived as unhealthy. The difference between a French breakfast of a croissant and coffee and US style stack of pancakes comes down to quantity. The point really is that you're implying here that a stack of pancakes is a normal US breakfast, which it absolutely is not. I also have no idea how typical a croissant and coffee is but it sounds more likely than pancakes.
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# ? Jun 1, 2023 20:22 |
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Schubalts posted:What loving American pancake recipes are people seeing that have a ton of sugar in the batter itself? Not even American boxed pancake mix has a noticeable amount of sugar in it (one right in front of me is 8 grams of sugar in a 61 gram serving of dry mix). Learning store bought white bread had any sugar in at all was horrifying. It's not even a nice sweet bread like brioche, it's just bland and may as well not be there. And it's definitely not got the nice crumb of a good sweet bread too
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# ? Jun 1, 2023 20:22 |
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Runa posted:Learning store bought white bread had any sugar in at all was horrifying. It's not even a nice sweet bread like brioche, it's just bland and may as well not be there. Sugar added in an amount that doesn't turn it sweet so it can still be used in savory sandwiches and toast While still added in an amount allowing an extremely fine, boring, melt in your mouth crumb Bonus, sugar helps preserve bread longer and makes it turn a pleasing brown in the toaster before it reaches Captain Crunch levels of mouth daggers. Except for some of the white breads aiming for Hawaiian rolls/actual sweet bread levels, it's not really added in calorie density affecting amounts so it's not like it's a dietary problem. It's just boring on purpose not least of all it's one of the cheapest possible preservatives.
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# ? Jun 1, 2023 20:44 |
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All white bread is basically candy and not in compliance with the Jante Law. The only acceptable bread is rye or wafer thin multigrain crispy bread.
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FreudianSlippers posted:All white bread is basically candy and not in compliance with the Jante Law. Whoa get a loaf of the bread police
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Butterfly Valley posted:The tone of my post wasn't meant to be hating on the US and its food, I was just replying to the guy who seemed to be surprised by the idea that US-style pancakes were perceived as unhealthy. The difference between a French breakfast of a croissant and coffee and US style stack of pancakes comes down to quantity. I never said pancakes were healthy, I said that sugary baked goods for breakfast are not uniquely American. I do agree on quantity, I'm a big dude and I can't even get half way through a stack of diner pancakes without getting nauseous, and it's not like they reheat well. I guess they're cheap as hell so might as well give the customer a much as they could possibly want. I'll make a nice (single) pancake full of blueberries for brunch or breakfast-for-dinner once every few months.
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# ? Jun 1, 2023 21:03 |
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Pleads posted:Whoa get a loaf of the bread police Stop hitting me with stale baguettes, have you no pita for your fellow man? Focaccia That! Imma knead your pumpernickel!
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Data Graham posted:My attitude toward pancakes is roughly in line with Mitch Hedberg's They’re great if you’re really hungry and want to eat 2000 of something?
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# ? Jun 1, 2023 21:32 |
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I had to post this somewhere, and couldn't find a better thread. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NZujiu3A7g Probably delicious, but the guy is absolutely laughing all the time he prepares that.
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# ? Jun 1, 2023 21:38 |
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Italians love simplicity. Anything that has more than five ingredients makes them uneasy.
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# ? Jun 1, 2023 21:41 |
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VictualSquid posted:I had to post this somewhere, and couldn't find a better thread. I mean literally not too different then what I make for my actual kid to eat She hates pancakes
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Captain Hygiene posted:I never had them, but I pictured them more like English muffins. Looks like they're actually cooked up on the stovetop though, more like a yeasty pancake? They are quite different from everything else; I always assumed they had a lot of egg because of the texture, but it seems like it's just heavily developed gluten that makes them the way they are. They toast up really well, and are neutrally flavored, so you can either butter n syrup them, or throw on a savory topping, like a poached egg and they are still really good.
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# ? Jun 1, 2023 22:02 |
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Crumpet with peanut butter is my preferred pre run/row snack. They're spongy and a bit crunchy once toasted. They're great. Very popular in Australia
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# ? Jun 1, 2023 22:24 |
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Crumpets are an interesting texture, crisp base and spongy top. Nothing soaks up butter like a crumpet.
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# ? Jun 2, 2023 00:21 |
But do they have nooks and/or crannies?
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# ? Jun 2, 2023 00:43 |
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exclusively
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# ? Jun 2, 2023 00:54 |
bizarrely the steak house i went to the other day had a "Last of Us" HBO series tie-in special. cordy-steak.
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uber_stoat posted:bizarrely the steak house i went to the other day had a "Last of Us" HBO series tie-in special. cordy-steak. what the gently caress
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Nettle Soup posted:I dunno, what's peoples pancake recipes? This is my dad's pancake recipe, which is from my Norwegian great grandmother and is called "skinny pancakes" (to distinguish them from regular American pancakes) quote:One egg Put a line of sugar down the middle, roll it up in a cylinder, and eat it like that
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HelloIAmYourHeart posted:This is my dad's pancake recipe, which is from my Norwegian great grandmother and is called "skinny pancakes" (to distinguish them from regular American pancakes) Oh no, sugar?! loving disgusting Just kidding this sounds tasty
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It's the traditional breakfast my dad would make for birthdays, holidays, and sleepovers, and never until I got with my husband did anyone suggest putting a sausage inside instead of sugar.
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axolotl farmer posted:They’re great if you’re really hungry and want to eat 2000 of something? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaPzPhEp5HE
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HelloIAmYourHeart posted:It's the traditional breakfast my dad would make for birthdays, holidays, and sleepovers, and never until I got with my husband did anyone suggest putting a sausage inside instead of sugar. That's Krumkakes, or something similar right? They're delicious, but very sweet, my GF and I made 'em filled with hazelnut spread we made from my Filbert trees for the holidays last year. Elviscat has a new favorite as of 06:50 on Jun 2, 2023 |
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Nettle Soup posted:I dunno, what's peoples pancake recipes? Vegan pancakes. The thin Euro kind. 1 part chickpea flour, 1 part all-purpose flour, 2 parts (approx.) water. Salt. Mix and let sit for 20 min or so. Needs more oil or whatever you fry in than eggs-and-milk pancakes since there's less fat in the batter. I have made this for omnivore kids, without complaints.
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My partner makes vegan pancakes with our sourdough starter, but I don't think he has a recipe, just mixes it up with flour and water until it has the right consistancy and then lets it sit overnight to gain some bubbles.
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