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This is what Lindsey McCain would look like.
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Oct 3, 2014 21:27
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Hahaha, wtf. Why do you even have this knowledge?
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Oct 3, 2014 21:51
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:FDR had a 62% Democratic Senate (with no routine filibuster) and a 72% Democratic House at his inauguration. At the time though, a supermajority was really 2/3, not 60%. So no, your implication here that FDR had a supermajority and that's why he got his policies passed is wrong. quote:At his height, a little over a year later, he had an 81% Democratic Senate and a 77% Democratic House. It doesn't really matter what happened further down the road - we're talking about initial mandates here.
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Oct 3, 2014 21:57
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Paul MaudDib posted:At the time though, a supermajority was really 2/3, not 60%. So no, your implication here that FDR had a supermajority and that's why he got his policies passed is wrong. I think you'll find "not being black" shaves a few percentage points off of a supermajority.
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Oct 3, 2014 22:00
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ReindeerF posted:Hahaha, wtf. Why do you even have this knowledge?
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Oct 3, 2014 22:03
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computer parts posted:I think you'll find "not being black" shaves a few percentage points off of a supermajority. And FDR came into office with a much more-widely supported mandate of "for gently caress's sake, do something!"
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Oct 3, 2014 22:05
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Paul MaudDib posted:Not crazy enough to sign onto a Republican ticket immediately after Bush finished dragging their party through the poo poo, during a financial crash caused by Republican policies, and going up against a once-in-a-generation charismatic politician with some serious campaign staff. What a weird spelling of "for years of work in nuclear disarmament, to encourage him to continue pursuing it with the powers of the presidency."
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Oct 3, 2014 22:07
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Joementum posted:This is what Lindsey McCain would look like. An Elder Scrolls character
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Oct 4, 2014 00:08
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Paul MaudDib posted:At the time though, a supermajority was really 2/3, not 60%. So no, your implication here that FDR had a supermajority and that's why he got his policies passed is wrong. I think it does matter. Because if FDR had a deal with a republican caucus intent on filibustering literally everything the president did, the hundred days would have ended in a wet fart. Obamacare took a year to wrangle together. Last year's congress was the least productive in history, man, so please stop acting like the situations are nigh-identical.
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Oct 4, 2014 00:20
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mooyashi posted:An Elder Scrolls character
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Oct 4, 2014 00:25
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Graham doesn't have much of a chance anyway. He has a "RINO" reputation even more extreme than McCain's.
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Oct 4, 2014 02:36
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LaughMyselfTo posted:Graham doesn't have much of a chance anyway. He has a "RINO" reputation even more extreme than McCain's. Again Berke Negri posted:Graham should come out publicly in the same speech he gives to run for president so that his historical legacy is firmly secured forever. The GOP has long been on the cusp of a tipping point on acceptance of homosexuality and Lindsey Graham is that tipping point. History is knocking Senator Graham. Do you feel confident alone that you'll be able to stand out in the long gallery of also rans, or do you want to make sure no one ever forgets you?
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Oct 4, 2014 02:40
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Carter/Mondale vs Bush/Quayle '16
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Oct 4, 2014 02:40
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Making fun of Lindsay Graham never gets old. Especially Jon Stewart's impression of him.
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Oct 4, 2014 03:53
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what muppet did Jon associate him with?
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Oct 4, 2014 03:56
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made of bees posted:what muppet did Jon associate him with? Dandiest Southerner muppet
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Oct 4, 2014 04:01
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Good lord Jon if you wanna call him a human being so bad just go ahead I'm pretty sure you can get away with it you're on Comedy Central.
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Oct 4, 2014 04:20
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made of bees posted:Good lord Jon if you wanna call him a human being so bad just go ahead I'm pretty sure you can get away with it you're on Comedy Central. Insinuation is funnier, especially when done in a silly voice.
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Oct 4, 2014 04:21
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No one should encourage Stewart's impressions.
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Oct 4, 2014 04:36
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Paul MaudDib posted:At the time though, a supermajority was really 2/3, not 60%. So no, your implication here that FDR had a supermajority and that's why he got his policies passed is wrong. Ugh, seriously? A few off my head: Roosevelt being part part of an all powerful familial dynasty that stretched between all political orientations The 1930s being crazy as poo poo. Seriously, it was bananas. The progressive left being a much more powerful force in American politics. The Depression. The loving Depression. A quarter of people being out of work. The ability to grow and buy food teetering on collapse. The potential end of capitalism. Four loving terms. And even then, things like the Social Security Act being a shadow of what it is now. Also, the fact that most of his potential reforms (hurriedly formulated to ward off strong opposition from the left flank, there's that powerful progressive force again) eventually being rolled back or stymied. Then is not now. Politics wasn't this all consuming 24 hour tragedy ready made for mass produced badge wearing individualization. And more I could list, but from what I remember any mention of Obama spins your head around like a robot trying to understand the concept of love.
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Oct 4, 2014 11:55
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You forgot the part where the industrialists unironically had Nazi sympathies as a class and despite Roosevelt's unshakeable pedigree and enormous popularity Prescott Bush was halfway to starting a conspiracy to coup the government in the first year e: thought it was later on, looked it up, turns out they didn't even wait a full term
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Oct 4, 2014 12:06
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made of bees posted:Good lord Jon if you wanna call him a human being so bad just go ahead I'm pretty sure you can get away with it you're on Comedy Central. Oh I see, it's pure homophobia driving the caricature, not the play on the effeminate southern gent manner combined with Lindsey Graham's ability to immediately fry the gaydar of anyone within 500 feet, juxtaposed with the GOP's burning hatred of anyone above 0 on the Kinsey scale.
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Oct 4, 2014 12:40
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It may have been more of a European thing, but there was something of a widespread belief at the that capitalism couldn't compete politically with fascism and communism. So basically the opposite of the ideological confidence of today's capital class.
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Oct 4, 2014 12:44
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Shageletic posted:Ugh, seriously? A few off my head: I always think of this interview of Stalin by HG Wells when I forget how crazy the early 1930s were: http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2014/04/h-g-wells-it-seems-me-i-am-more-left-you-mr-stalin
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Oct 4, 2014 14:08
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FAUXTON posted:Oh I see, it's pure homophobia driving the caricature, not the play on the effeminate southern gent manner combined with Lindsey Graham's ability to immediately fry the gaydar of anyone within 500 feet, juxtaposed with the GOP's burning hatred of anyone above 0 on the Kinsey scale. We get it, the guy you don't like is a big dumb human being, just don't expect actual gay people to always love when you pull that stuff.
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Oct 4, 2014 14:12
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floppo posted:I always think of this interview of Stalin by HG Wells when I forget how crazy the early 1930s were: Stalin owned. The 1930s owned.
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Oct 4, 2014 14:40
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His intelligence leaps off the page. Its only when you step back you remember, oh right, that killing millions thing.
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Oct 4, 2014 15:53
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Shageletic posted:His intelligence leaps off the page. Its only when you step back you remember, oh right, that killing millions thing. Omelette, eggs etc.
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Oct 4, 2014 16:14
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Also the part where he spent six months ignoring agents reporting German military buildup or had them shot because he looked into Hitler's eyes and saw his soul. Like, if you only make one catastrophic fuckup in your life, that's pretty up there.
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Oct 4, 2014 16:38
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Sometimes it takes just enough intelligence to be so self-assured that you make the most colossal fuckups. The arguable sociopathy doesn't help either.
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Oct 4, 2014 16:51
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Shageletic posted:His intelligence leaps off the page. Its only when you step back you remember, oh right, that killing millions thing. It's not often one has a chance to be mad at HG loving Wells for not framing his central question effectively.
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Oct 4, 2014 17:00
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I think something that people tend to overlook is that Stalin was counting on the invasion of France being a bloody affair that weakened Germany. When they rolled over France without too many casualties that threw a wrench into the USSR's entire political strategy.
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Oct 4, 2014 17:07
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Maarek posted:I think something that people tend to overlook is that Stalin was counting on the invasion of France being a bloody affair that weakened Germany. When they rolled over France without too many casualties that threw a wrench into the USSR's entire political strategy. "Hmm, Germany rolled over France without too many casualties. This series of urgent warnings about the hundreds of thousands of troops rolling east means nothing" -Glorious Leader, May 1941
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Oct 4, 2014 17:11
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Tatum Girlparts posted:We get it, the guy you don't like is a big dumb human being, just don't expect actual gay people to always love when you pull that stuff. Thank you. For all the circlejerking about how much R primary voters would hate him, the quips on the last few pages have been really gross.
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Oct 4, 2014 17:13
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Adar posted:Also the part where he spent six months ignoring agents reporting German military buildup or had them shot because he looked into Hitler's eyes and saw his soul.
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Oct 4, 2014 17:20
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Adar posted:"Hmm, Germany rolled over France without too many casualties. This series of urgent warnings about the hundreds of thousands of troops rolling east means nothing" -Glorious Leader, May 1941 C'mon man; while we can rightly roll our eyes and criticize him for his paranoid insistence that all warning were a British plot, and yes he did more or less go to pieces when the panzers rolled over his frontier forces, the man had accelerated the Red Army's reforms in the wake of France's collapse. He, wrongly, thought he could buy enough time by not provoking the Germans to finish getting his own military in place before the inevitable conflict with fascism. SedanChair posted:Omelette, eggs etc. It's taking it a bit far when you then go on to torch the chicken coop, shoot the farmer, and have his wife deported to the gulag.
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Oct 4, 2014 17:24
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Since we're on the subject are there any books that describe any actual socialist policies that Stalin implemented? All we are ever taught about him is how he murdered millions of people and was basically a dictator. From the article it sounds like he at least knew enough about the social policy aspect, regardless of how little he chose to bother with enacting anything beyond making GBS threads on people as the big guy on top.
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Oct 4, 2014 17:24
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joeburz posted:Since we're on the subject are there any books that describe any actual socialist policies that Stalin implemented? All we are ever taught about him is how he murdered millions of people and was basically a dictator. From the article it sounds like he at least knew enough about the social policy aspect, regardless of how little he chose to bother with enacting anything beyond making GBS threads on people as the big guy on top.
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Oct 4, 2014 17:31
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joeburz posted:Since we're on the subject are there any books that describe any actual socialist policies that Stalin implemented? All we are ever taught about him is how he murdered millions of people and was basically a dictator. From the article it sounds like he at least knew enough about the social policy aspect, regardless of how little he chose to bother with enacting anything beyond making GBS threads on people as the big guy on top. Go read Ghost of the Executed Engineer if you want an idea of how Stalin did industrialization (tl;dr- throw lots of manpower at it and execute anyone that says it's a dumb project).
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FAUXTON posted:Oh I see, it's pure homophobia driving the caricature, not the play on the effeminate southern gent manner combined with Lindsey Graham's ability to immediately fry the gaydar of anyone within 500 feet, juxtaposed with the GOP's burning hatred of anyone above 0 on the Kinsey scale. "I'm not making fun of him because he's gay, I'm making fun of him because he's effeminate" is a really terrible argument to make and if any Republicans make fun of Graham's supposed gayness, it isn't remotely nearly as prevalent as how often liberals do it.
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