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Yeah, who even owns a 4K TV? My biggest worry about the gaming industry right now is that both Sony and Microsoft are tripping over themselves to market towards young, affluent white men, what with SUPER GRAPHICS!!! and pricy peripherals that play $40 minigames and mid-generatiob console remasters and whatnot, and ignoring everyone else. Nintendo is the only one of the big three right now that tries to diversify their audience a little. I don't want consoles to just become shittier PCs that market themselves exclusively to a shrinking ~core audience~.
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There's a bunch of games I would buy straight up rereleases just to have an HD portable version. "Remasters" with more content would make me happy and would probably sell well, especially since no one owns a Wii U so they would feel like brand new games. Kirby Superscare! posted:It's been a few days and I am still incredibly stoked to own a Nintendo Switch. 
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Oct 23, 2016 19:23
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youcallthatatwist posted:Yeah, who even owns a 4K TV? Lol, the people who call Nintendo's a gimimick, whilst strapping into a $400 VR set to play job simulator are great. I heard more VR hype then i have heard about it now that it launched. Glad nintendo resisted the urge make virtual boy 2 based on last years climate. Good job N (full disclosure, if x-wing mission is actually good and they make a full game of it, I would probably break down and but a $460 game) Bombadilillo fucked around with this message at 19:29 on Oct 23, 2016 |
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Oct 23, 2016 19:27
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Tender Bender posted:There's a bunch of games I would buy straight up rereleases just to have an HD portable version. "Remasters" with more content would make me happy and would probably sell well, especially since no one owns a Wii U so they would feel like brand new games.  I've never even seen a Wii U, but damend if i don't wanna dip in to Windwaker / Twilight Princess remasters.
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Oct 23, 2016 19:51
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my brother just bought a 50in 4k TV for $500, they are dirt cheap now
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Oct 23, 2016 19:53
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GreatGreen posted:Why is everyone saying that Mario Maker can't be on the switch if it's not touch screen? Is it really be so impossible to imagine using, say, the left joystick to control the cursor and the right joystick to control the camera? It's possible but it would be super tedious to decide on an item from the build palette, then move the cursor space by space until you reach it, then exit the palette and move from space to space to lay down the item. It adds time to the process and not in a meaningful or enjoyable way. There are so many equivalent things on the screen to interact with that the experience is one where traditional button inputs are not better. Mario Maker is the kind of game where if you're playing for a long time, that time should be spent on building and not getting the cursor to where you want it.
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Nintendo usually makes sure that the technology is plenty ready and cheap enough to make people okay to buy it. That's why they won't go with VR at least just yet.coffeecup posted:It's possible but it would be super tedious to decide on an item from the build palette, then move the cursor space by space until you reach it, then exit the palette and move from space to space to lay down the item. It adds time to the process and not in a meaningful or enjoyable way. There are so many equivalent things on the screen to interact with that the experience is one where traditional button inputs are not better. Maybe a mouse peripheral?
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Oct 23, 2016 19:54
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wicka posted:i don't think he was accusing you of that, just saying that PCs are more pricey than some people suggest it's ok to pay more for quality things
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Oct 23, 2016 20:01
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Pureauthor posted:Yep, most people watching it would have already picked up on the most important thing about the Switch: It is bad. I'm eager to watch this bomb harder than the wii u 
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Oct 23, 2016 20:10
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bef posted:I'm eager to watch this bomb harder than the wii u Nothing Nintendo makes could bomb harder than that, unless they really do make a Virtual Boy 2. So you'll better get more popcorn.
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Oct 23, 2016 20:23
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It's going to do better than the Wii U because it will combine the 3DS and Wii U bases, but there's a lot of overlap there so not a ton better.
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Oct 23, 2016 20:25
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It's going to do great.
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Oct 23, 2016 20:27
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It's going to be great. it's going to do mediocre.
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Oct 23, 2016 20:28
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bef posted:I'm eager to watch this bomb harder than the wii u https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0TQbRNmYus
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Oct 23, 2016 20:30
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BreakAtmo posted:It's already happening just in the teaser video with Splatoon and Mario Kart. It's plenty likely, since it's a cheap, effective way to pad out the library - plus, Wii U owners would probably crack and re-buy for the portability. After the resources that were poured into a no of Wii U games, it would be silly not to bring them to a larger audience. Commercials are the dreams of madmen, gravy for the brain; trust them not.
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Oct 23, 2016 20:34
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Bass Bottles posted:It's going to do better than the Wii U because it will combine the 3DS and Wii U bases, but there's a lot of overlap there so not a ton better. This is what I think as well, but if they try to support 2 portable systems like some people think they will do I can definitely see some issues.
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Oct 23, 2016 20:40
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bef posted:I'm eager to watch this bomb harder than the wii u What the heck?!
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Oct 23, 2016 20:42
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Bombadilillo posted:You said buy a 5 year pc over dealing with upgrade culture. I argue its cheaper even if you upgrade every time, then building a good pc that will actually last 5 years without looking like poo poo. A good 5 year pc is probably $1500-2000 easy. look up some 5 year old video cards for a laugh. Especially nintendo products have good tradein on the new console as well. 3ds to new 3ds cost ~$100 to upgrade. Consoles $200-300. console generations are getting sub-epocs not ending. (maybe xbone is truley ending). In all cases they are cheaper then a pc that lasts 5 years. If you're starting from scratch and not being disingenuous, a good console setup is going to cost you £1200+ too once you factor in your nice big TV and sound system. Also with the price of games you're delusional if you think pc gaming is more expensive. I picked up Doom, Fallout 4 and Black Ops 3 for £60 total two months ago. All run with equivalent or slightly better performance than on consoles and I've netted a saving of at least £90 compared to someone getting them on said consoles. Repeat that saving on pretty much every new game that comes out that's not a console exclusive and you can see how cost effective pc gaming is. I'm still getting a Switch though, but it'll just be for the Nintendo exclusives like the WiiU was.
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Oct 23, 2016 20:44
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All the adult gamers I've seen taking about this are psyched. They don't give a poo poo about graphics, they give a poo poo that is just all normal games with normal controls. These aren't Nintendo fans, they are the typical people who hate Nintendo since the Wii came out.
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Oct 23, 2016 20:50
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Kin posted:If you're starting from scratch and not being disingenuous, a good console setup is going to cost you £1200+ too once you factor in your nice big TV and sound system. you can run a pc on a tv and probably should these days to avoid being a weirdo rotting away in his computer den so its the same cost for either system. you can trade in console games or resell them and you get 20% off their price with amazon prime. pc sales are good its true. not paying for online is very bueno. nevertheless you can game the purchase and resale of physical media to get new major releases at launch, play them and sell them, for the same effective price as a humble sale 2 years later on pc. not everyone has the same amount of money upfront and time/knowledge, and has the same interests and lifestyle. if pc guys already have a really nice pc they can probably afford to have all the systems and just be a chill guy who loves all games instead of tell people (who already know and don't care) how superior custom machines with open systems are to mass market ones with walled gardens.
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Oct 23, 2016 21:03
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That's like saying a pack of hot dogs really is going to cost you $600 because you need a decent refrigerator. And more than that really because you need an apartment to keep the fridge in.
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Oct 23, 2016 21:10
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greatn posted:That's like saying a pack of hot dogs really is going to cost you $600 because you need a decent refrigerator. And more than that really because you need an apartment to keep the fridge in.
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Oct 23, 2016 21:10
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greatn posted:That's like saying a pack of hot dogs really is going to cost you $600 because you need a decent refrigerator. And more than that really because you need an apartment to keep the fridge in. and then i have to hire 3 hookers to play it with me
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Oct 23, 2016 21:11
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zolthorg posted:and then i have to hire 3 hookers to play it with me I'll give you a discount, though.
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Bombadilillo posted:You said buy a 5 year pc over dealing with upgrade culture. I argue its cheaper even if you upgrade every time, then building a good pc that will actually last 5 years without looking like poo poo. A good 5 year pc is probably $1500-2000 easy. look up some 5 year old video cards for a laugh. Especially nintendo products have good tradein on the new console as well. 3ds to new 3ds cost ~$100 to upgrade. Consoles $200-300. console generations are getting sub-epocs not ending. (maybe xbone is truley ending). In all cases they are cheaper then a pc that lasts 5 years. That's really not the case at all, these days you don't even need to upgrade every year unless you want to be on the bleeding edge; a top of the line 5 year old graphics card is under $200, and you're better off just getting a GTX 1050 with that money. You could build a rig for just as much as you'd buy a console and TV set-up and have it last you the whole console's lifespan and probably save a great deal on cheaper game prices.
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Kin posted:If you're starting from scratch and not being disingenuous, a good console setup is going to cost you £1200+ too once you factor in your nice big TV and sound system. being disingenuous is suggesting most people don't already have a TV, lmao greatn posted:That's like saying a pack of hot dogs really is going to cost you $600 because you need a decent refrigerator. And more than that really because you need an apartment to keep the fridge in. yeah what this guy said
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Oct 23, 2016 21:24
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I don't even own a television
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Oct 23, 2016 21:31
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The Chairman posted:I don't even own a television Vibroslap
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In order to play a game from scratch, first you must create the universe.  Just a little food for thought... enjoy your weekend, folks.
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it definitely costs 1000+ dollars for a 200 dollar samsung and a 100$ pair of headphones believe it
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Please can we talk about the Splatoon hairdos because I want to be the pompadour squid
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The $400 PC builds are dumb because nobody should ever do them and they usually don't include the controller or windows install, both of which you would need to buy. Not including the monitor is fine-ish, maybe, but is another thing to consider. On the other hand, you probably could have built something good for $800 around when the PS4 launched and it would have outperformed it for those nearly 4 years and would still be able to at least match if not outperform the Pro. It's different strokes for different folks in terms of even wanting a PC for non-gaming versus just using a tablet/phone and in terms of saving for and spending $800 at once versus spending $400 twice.
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Dr Cheeto posted:Please can we talk about the Splatoon hairdos because I want to be the pompadour squid most of them are about as ugly and bad as i predicted it will make keeping track of the enemy teams weapons midmatch much easier tho also they're going to be wigs that take up the hat slot like 99.9% sure
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looked cool to me
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i think being able to play mario kart against my coworkers at a table on the lunch break sounds cool and good
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Tbh the fact that you really don't need a PC anymore means the cost of a gaming PC is higher, relative to the time when everyone needed some kind of PC to begin with, so it was just a question of whether you wanted to invest in a better rig. I dunno how most folks live but I pretty much only turn my PC on to play games nowadays.
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Dr Cheeto posted:Please can we talk about the Splatoon hairdos because I want to be the pompadour squid Really hoping for a squidhawk. This is all I have wanted since the game launched.
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Oct 23, 2016 22:12
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Don't they have tentacles, not hair? How do they style tentacles?
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Oct 23, 2016 22:14
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Guy Goodbody posted:Don't they have tentacles, not hair? How do they style tentacles? Very creatively
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Tender Bender posted:Tbh the fact that you really don't need a PC anymore means the cost of a gaming PC is higher, relative to the time when everyone needed some kind of PC to begin with, so it was just a question of whether you wanted to invest in a better rig. I dunno how most folks live but I pretty much only turn my PC on to play games nowadays. yeah my PC was off for like a month straight until civ 6 came out
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