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jaegerx: Sep 10, 2012; Maybe this post will get me on your ignore list!

jaegerx posted:

https://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local/article/san-antonio-clayton-perry-17578017.php

I know for a fact he was drinking cause I was with him at the same bar.

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jaegerx: Sep 10, 2012; Maybe this post will get me on your ignore list!

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H110Hawk: Dec 28, 2006

jaegerx posted:

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Farking Bastage posted:

I mean, is it the stockholm syndrome?

Literally everything in our career path is Stockholm syndrome.

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jaegerx: Sep 10, 2012; Maybe this post will get me on your ignore list!

H110Hawk posted:

Is this a mod or did he just pay $8 and why has no one made that a emoticon yet.

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Ffycchi posted:

Literally everything in our career path is Stockholm syndrome.

using a computer is the greatest example of breaking your brain until you love it

the human hand was not designed to touch a keyboard

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LochNessMonster: Feb 3, 2005; I need about three fitty

tokin opposition posted:

the human hand was not designed to touch a keyboard

That�s why god created dactyl manuforms

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devmd01: Mar 7, 2006; Elektronik
Supersonik

jaegerx posted:

Yes please. I�ve had �Jira is middle-management-ware� as my teams status ever since someone here posted it.

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BaseballPCHiker: Jan 16, 2006

I'm one week away from starting my new job that I already signed an offer letter for.

Current place is now saying they'll match the offer, throw in a 10% bonus if I stay one year, give me an extra week of vacation each year AND create a whole new position for me if I stay.

Honestly not sure what to do now. This old place is a poo poo show but the work life balance is second to none and I'd get 3 months paternity for when my wife and I have our 2nd kid next year. I'd also be at 6 weeks of PTO a year which would be awesome.

# ? Nov 12, 2022 18:26

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BaseballPCHiker posted:

I'm one week away from starting my new job that I already signed an offer letter for.

Current place is now saying they'll match the offer, throw in a 10% bonus if I stay one year, give me an extra week of vacation each year AND create a whole new position for me if I stay.

Honestly not sure what to do now. This old place is a poo poo show but the work life balance is second to none and I'd get 3 months paternity for when my wife and I have our 2nd kid next year. I'd also be at 6 weeks of PTO a year which would be awesome.

flee, if it was bad enough to make you want to leave it'll still be as bad with the morsels they're willing to throw you, assuming they don't screw you over somehow.

# ? Nov 12, 2022 18:36

Wibla: Feb 16, 2011

BaseballPCHiker posted:

I'm one week away from starting my new job that I already signed an offer letter for.

Current place is now saying they'll match the offer, throw in a 10% bonus if I stay one year, give me an extra week of vacation each year AND create a whole new position for me if I stay.

Honestly not sure what to do now. This old place is a poo poo show but the work life balance is second to none and I'd get 3 months paternity for when my wife and I have our 2nd kid next year. I'd also be at 6 weeks of PTO a year which would be awesome.

They're panicking. Change jobs.

# ? Nov 12, 2022 18:37

Che Delilas: Nov 23, 2009; FREE TIBET WEED

BaseballPCHiker posted:

I'm one week away from starting my new job that I already signed an offer letter for.

Current place is now saying they'll match the offer, throw in a 10% bonus if I stay one year, give me an extra week of vacation each year AND create a whole new position for me if I stay.

Honestly not sure what to do now. This old place is a poo poo show but the work life balance is second to none and I'd get 3 months paternity for when my wife and I have our 2nd kid next year. I'd also be at 6 weeks of PTO a year which would be awesome.

I wouldn't expect anything about the culture or situation at the current company to change, and unless the ONLY reason you're leaving is compensation, that includes whatever it was that made you start looking in the first place. General advice is to not accept a counter offer, but if you decide to then I'd make drat sure the bonus agreement includes language that says you only have to pay it back if you decide to quit on your own, not if they get rid of you (after 3 months because they just wanted time to find a replacement).

All those extra perks seem like panic to me though, as Wilba suggested.

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H110Hawk: Dec 28, 2006

Not to mention that without a toothy contract they can just poo poo can you as soon as they've found the replacement. All of this should come with a retention contract that has bonuses for years worked and penalties to the company to firing you for any reason. (Golden parachute style.)

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Diqnol: May 10, 2010

Yeah don't do it!

I'm in a somewhat similar boat in that I have tons of leverage with my current employer and have a resume ready to go but feel guilty about screwing the team by bouncing. At least two of them are decent people! OTOH I would like to make enough money to be comfy...

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Hughmoris: Apr 21, 2007; Let's go to the abyss!

BaseballPCHiker posted:

I'm one week away from starting my new job that I already signed an offer letter for.

Current place is now saying they'll match the offer, throw in a 10% bonus if I stay one year, give me an extra week of vacation each year AND create a whole new position for me if I stay.

Honestly not sure what to do now. This old place is a poo poo show but the work life balance is second to none and I'd get 3 months paternity for when my wife and I have our 2nd kid next year. I'd also be at 6 weeks of PTO a year which would be awesome.

I'm going to go against the grain and say you should seriously consider staying. You'll get the pay raise, bonus, more PTO, cooler title(?) and the excellent work/life balance. Plus, you don't have to worry about all the uncertainty that comes with starting a new job on a new team.

If I recall, you're an AWS Security guru so you likely won't have to look too hard for a new opportunity if staying turns bad.

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Sickening: Jul 16, 2007; Black summer was the best summer.

Hughmoris posted:

I'm going to go against the grain and say you should seriously consider staying. You'll get the pay raise, bonus, more PTO, cooler title(?) and the excellent work/life balance. Plus, you don't have to worry about all the uncertainty that comes with starting a new job on a new team.

If I recall, you're an AWS Security guru so you likely won't have to look too hard for a new opportunity if staying turns bad.

I would echo this. That is a lot to throw your way , but its layered enough to look like retention more so than not.

I am not a huge fan of taking counter offers. But with the way the market is and the fact you are infosec, I dont think either side benefits from a change unless you just want to change.

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LochNessMonster: Feb 3, 2005; I need about three fitty

I�d normally say don�t take the counter offer but with all those benefits as well parental leave with a kid coming up I�d lie if I said I wouldn�t think twice about this.

Of course the US is notoriously bad when it comes to worker protection laws so there�s the risk of getting screwed over. Could you get it in writing that you get 100k severence pay if they decide to terminate your contract within 1 year?

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MrKatharsis: Nov 29, 2003; feel the bern

BaseballPCHiker posted:

I'm one week away from starting my new job that I already signed an offer letter for.

Current place is now saying they'll match the offer, throw in a 10% bonus if I stay one year, give me an extra week of vacation each year AND create a whole new position for me if I stay.

Honestly not sure what to do now. This old place is a poo poo show but the work life balance is second to none and I'd get 3 months paternity for when my wife and I have our 2nd kid next year. I'd also be at 6 weeks of PTO a year which would be awesome.

Good work life balance, 3 months paternity, and 6 weeks a year sounds loving awesome but that's just, like, my opinion.

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jaegerx: Sep 10, 2012; Maybe this post will get me on your ignore list!

https://www.reddit.com/r/webdev/comments/yt842l/showoff_saturday_i_made_a_tool_which/

https://www.programming-helper.com/

GitHub copilot. Begun the AI wars have.

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Sepist: Dec 26, 2005; FUCK BITCHES, ROUTE PACKETS; Gravy Boat 2k

jaegerx posted:

https://www.programming-helper.com/

GitHub copilot. Begun the AI wars have.

What the gently caress!

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Defenestrategy: Oct 24, 2010

Welp.

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jaegerx: Sep 10, 2012; Maybe this post will get me on your ignore list!

it's over for us.

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Sepist: Dec 26, 2005; FUCK BITCHES, ROUTE PACKETS; Gravy Boat 2k

AI will relegate us all to help desk, even they don't want to do end user support.

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jaegerx: Sep 10, 2012; Maybe this post will get me on your ignore list!

i'm gonna be raking rocks at this point.

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jaegerx: Sep 10, 2012; Maybe this post will get me on your ignore list!

I want to claim i'm the best poo poo poster here but you are the queen.

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tokin opposition: Apr 8, 2021; I don't jailbreak the androids, I set them free.

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Kiss the ring baybee

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nullfunction: Jan 24, 2005; Nap Ghost

Better post!

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jaegerx: Sep 10, 2012; Maybe this post will get me on your ignore list!

What a fun saturday night!

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KillHour: Oct 28, 2007

I don't know what I expected

Edit: I like this one better

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KillHour: Oct 28, 2007

Holy loving poo poo we're all so screwed

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Bonzo: Mar 11, 2004; Just like Mama used to make it!

Its great until Middle Management sees it and fires everyone because they think you can just say, "Create an ERP system with the following 8394 requirements" and it will work.

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xzzy: Mar 5, 2009

Bonzo posted:

Its great until Middle Management sees it and fires everyone because they think you can just say, "Create an ERP system with the following 8394 requirements" and it will work.

Maybe that's what's going on with twitter right now.

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BadSamaritan: May 2, 2008; crumb by crumb in this big black forest

So before I went into IT, I worked in a field that has a heavily automated element (laboratory medicine). Turns out, a lot of the job was sanity checking what the analyzers and robotics stuff spit out and troubleshooting all the bullshit caused by people and by machines.

I�m generally less concerned about AI and automation because having critical, incorrect things decided via computer without human input can be cost prohibitive, and computers can be extremely good at things until they�re very wrong. People are stupid, but we�re far better at looking at things in a soft context.

Also, upper management will be unable to satisfactorily fire a computer if something goes horribly sideways so there will always be a place for human review.

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jaegerx: Sep 10, 2012; Maybe this post will get me on your ignore list!

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soup = BeautifulS

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BaseballPCHiker: Jan 16, 2006

Had a meeting with my current boss today. Creating a new position for me with a fancy Sr title, upping my base pay to match my other offer, and a 10% bonus and the other week of PTO. I dont have messaging or email apps from work on my phone. I dont have a work phone. Im never on call. I havent worked past noon on a Friday all year. The work life balance with the other benefits is enough to get me to stay. Was just too much for me to turn down.

When I say this place is a shitshow though, heres an example. It took me 6 months to convince them to turn on CloudTrail logging org wide. Like fundamental security basics here are a tooth and nail fight. Thats where my frustration comes in with the org. My team and management are great though.

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KillHour: Oct 28, 2007

I'm going to buck the trend and say you don't need to leave for this offer if they give you a good enough counter. But almost everyone just turns around and uses that to get an even better offer somewhere. Companies know this and put you in the "on borrowed time" column. Hence the 1 year incentive. If they're smart, they'll try to figure out how to cover for you in case that happens. If they're smart and lovely, they'll replace you and lay you off before you get the chance.

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BaseballPCHiker: Jan 16, 2006

KillHour posted:

I'm going to buck the trend and say you don't need to leave for this offer if they give you a good enough counter. But almost everyone just turns around and uses that to get an even better offer somewhere. Companies know this and put you in the "on borrowed time" column. Hence the 1 year incentive. If they're smart, they'll try to figure out how to cover for you in case that happens. If they're smart and lovely, they'll replace you and lay you off before you get the chance.

Yeah im officially accepting the counter offer to stay.

Another big reason. My company does a ton of government work, I've heard from the old timers here that they never do layoffs, including during Covid, Great-Recession, etc. So its a much safer bet than the relatively new consulting company I was going to leave for.

Really appreciate having this place as a sounding board though. Its incredible how much good career advice and knowledge ive gotten from this place over the years.

# ? Nov 14, 2022 16:42

KillHour: Oct 28, 2007

BaseballPCHiker posted:

Yeah im officially accepting the counter offer to stay.

Another big reason. My company does a ton of government work, I've heard from the old timers here that they never do layoffs, including during Covid, Great-Recession, etc. So its a much safer bet than the relatively new consulting company I was going to leave for.

Really appreciate having this place as a sounding board though. Its incredible how much good career advice and knowledge ive gotten from this place over the years.

Just making sure that you didn't just miss the last part though - which is a lot of companies are going to be looking to replace you on their terms once they realize you were interviewing. It's poo poo but it's super common.

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BaseballPCHiker: Jan 16, 2006

Duly noted.

I have a friend thats an executive at another company thats been dying to hire me back as well. Base pay would be like $10k lower but the benefits are incredible. Thats my fallback plan for now if things go south at this company.

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