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Hamelekim posted:21:9 is better than 4K imo. But if you don’t want that then 1440p is definitely all that is needed. Honestly I'd love an ultrawide but I don't have the desk space for it while maintaining a second monitor unless I do the on-top thing and live with the neck strain.
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Oct 29, 2020 08:19
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Oct 29, 2020 08:26
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Sagebrush posted:with an ultrawide you don't need a second monitor I prefer two monitors to ultrawide. I don't like having two things on one screen. Also it's easier to have a game on one monitor and Firefox/Discord/SA etc on another monitor.
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Oct 29, 2020 08:30
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Rage Mode according to GamersNexus guy was just like, the power slider on MSI Afterburner made distinct for marketing purposes. AMD apparently has its own auto-overclocking software apart from this, so why it gets its own buzzword who knows.
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Oct 29, 2020 08:38
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exquisite tea posted:Rage Mode according to GamersNexus guy was just like, the power slider on MSI Afterburner made distinct for marketing purposes. AMD apparently has its own auto-overclocking software apart from this, so why it gets its own buzzword who knows. if it's just a power slider it sounds like trickery to push the TDP down compared to the 3080 (20W difference is pretty much nothing anyway)
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Oct 29, 2020 08:51
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Shipon posted:if it's just a power slider it sounds like trickery to push the TDP down compared to the 3080 (20W difference is pretty much nothing anyway) especially when some of the benchmarks that they used in the presentation DID have RAGE MODE turned on... at the same time that they were claiming that they were able to deliver high performance with better power efficiency
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Oct 29, 2020 08:54
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shrike82 posted:lol looks like WD: Legion is heavily CPU bound with people on 9900K/3080s seeing 100% CPU utilization, 80% GPU utilization and frequent stuttering. lol it’s great this is what they picked to include with every RTX 30 purchase then. Can’t wait to fire it up tomorrow to see how my stock 8700 suffers
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Oct 29, 2020 08:55
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This is why you can never trust first part benchmarks 
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shrike82 posted:lol looks like WD: Legion is heavily CPU bound with people on 9900K/3080s seeing 100% CPU utilization, 80% GPU utilization and frequent stuttering. Seems weird for sure. 3080 / 9900k 4K Ultra is 30-40% CPU load: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gl7QEJUo32I 2080 Super / 9900k 1440p is 70-90% CPU load: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vFVU_jONPY Like it's normal to use up more CPU if you your GPU can feed enough frames to keep the CPU working all the time but fast 8/16 pegged at 1440p seems not good.
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Oct 29, 2020 08:55
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it's ubisoft no surprise that their engine is busted. i'll run some comparative benchmarks later
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Oct 29, 2020 09:01
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Scarecow posted:This is why you can never trust first part benchmarks
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Oct 29, 2020 09:18
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Scarecow posted:This is why you can never trust first part benchmarks its because they tested it on a ryzen CPU whereas the other benchmarks are on a i9-10900k. amd's last hurdle to clear was getting absolutely top gaming performance
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Oct 29, 2020 09:19
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Shipon posted:its because they tested it on a ryzen CPU whereas the other benchmarks are on a i9-10900k. amd's last hurdle to clear was getting absolutely top gaming performance didn't amd test on zen 3 processors which supposedly beat the 10900k?
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Oct 29, 2020 09:27
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MeruFM posted:didn't amd test on zen 3 processors which supposedly beat the 10900k? well i guess we won't know until the review embargo lifts in a few days
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Oct 29, 2020 09:31
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it was apparently done on the same 5900x system and from the Zen 3 announcement should be equal or a little faster then what intel has atm
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lol if Nvidia has to start using AMD CPUs for their marketing benchmarks
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Oct 29, 2020 09:41
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Scarecow posted:This is why you can never trust first part benchmarks You realise comparing benchmarks with entirely different base setups is entirely pointless don't you? I could run any of those games on my frankenstein-rear end 2 generations old system with a 3080 in it as it is right now, and post scores 20% lower than any of those 3080 scores probably.
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But thats the thing, the benches were from systems using a 9900k and a 10700k, AMD tested both the 3000's and their 6000's on the same AMD zen 3 system as per this slide, we know from AMD's Zen 3 announcement they are claiming to be equal or faster then intel now, its just interesting you always see the same poo poo from both companies doing stuff like this when the 3rd party reviews will find them out
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Oct 29, 2020 10:13
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Scarecow posted:But thats the thing, the benches were from systems using a 9900k and a 10700k, AMD tested both the 3000's and their 6000's on the same AMD zen 3 system as per this slide, we know from AMD's Zen 3 announcement they are claiming to be equal or faster then intel now, its just interesting you always see the same poo poo from both companies doing stuff like this when the 3rd party reviews will find them out I'm not fanboying for either side here, but, find *what* out? They showed like for like benchmarks in their slide, testing the same system and changing out the one part they want to compare. This is the correct way to do benchmarks. If the exact FPS figures in the graph don't line up to whatever preconceived notion of performance you were expecting, there could be a multitude of reasons for it. Yes, 3rd party testing will answer most of the questions you have, but it doesn't mean AMD or Nvidia or Intel are being underhand at all.
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Oct 29, 2020 10:21
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Guys I need some advice, I currently have an order on RTX 3080 ASUS TUF OC (they were selling it at a lower price than the non-OC wtf???) they are claiming it could be here beginning of December. However I'm wondering if it makes sense to buy a 3080 rather than a 3070 for my setup? I currently have 970GTX so anyway it will be a huge upgrade for me. I have a LG 27GL850-B monitor for the record. Also another question but my PSU is a Corsair RM650x will this thing have issues with either options?
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Oct 29, 2020 10:59
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Le0 posted:Guys I need some advice, I currently have an order on RTX 3080 ASUS TUF OC (they were selling it at a lower price than the non-OC wtf???) they are claiming it could be here beginning of December. At 1440p, the different between the 3080 and 3070 is mostly going to be how long it lasts you. The 3070 will likely be great at 1440p for a while, and the extra grunt of the 3080 will extend that by a year or two when game engines get more demanding in the future. Your PSU will handle either card fine.
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Oct 29, 2020 11:04
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AMD providing a TDP (power efficiency champs!!) then showing all their benchmarks with the vaguely named "RAGE MODE" that is just a power slider to increase the TDP is the shadiest first party benchmark trick I've seen in a while. And they seem to have gotten away with it for the majority, if you look at most other forums.
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Oct 29, 2020 11:15
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BurritoJustice posted:AMD providing a TDP (power efficiency champs!!) then showing all their benchmarks with the vaguely named "RAGE MODE" that is just a power slider to increase the TDP is the shadiest first party benchmark trick I've seen in a while. And they seem to have gotten away with it for the majority, if you look at most other forums. *Hides all the benchmarks with any ray tracing* WE GOT EM! I wanted AMD to be good at video cards pretty badly but lmao
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AirRaid posted:At 1440p, the different between the 3080 and 3070 is mostly going to be how long it lasts you. The 3070 will likely be great at 1440p for a while, and the extra grunt of the 3080 will extend that by a year or two when game engines get more demanding in the future. Ok thanks, I think I'm too weak to wait and also it's probably bullshit it will get there beginning of december.. Is there any consensus on which brand are best? Can I chose by taking the cheapest?
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Le0 posted:Ok thanks, I think I'm too weak to wait and also it's probably bullshit it will get there beginning of december.. It doesn't really seem to matter unless you're trying to XTREME OVERCLOCK, and even then it looks kind of meh. The big 3 fan coolers seem to work better than the one on the Founders Edition but again not enough to really matter for most people just running the cards stock. Some of the 2 fan 3070 coolers from PNY and Zotac look sort of lame I guess? The 2 fan 3070 Asus is almost as long as a 3 fan cooler and almost 3 slots wide, a real fatboy lol
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Oct 29, 2020 11:59
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Put an order in for a gigabyte 3080 gaming oc, it had the shortest queue out of all that I could check (only 52 people in front of me)
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It seems nuts to me that Amazon still only lists two PNY 3070 cards total. Also LOL at B&H starting off the scalping themselves with MSRP+$100 prices.
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I wish I could just go for a 3070 today but all the benchmarks I’ve seen point to the 3080 being the better choice for 3440x1440 
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Martout posted:Put an order in for a gigabyte 3080 gaming oc, it had the shortest queue out of all that I could check (only 52 people in front of me) A few hundred of those + the eagles arrived in NL yesterday so think that queue will be fairly quick (if supply is the same wherever you are)  e: lol most AIB 3070's are around 650 euros here Heliosicle fucked around with this message at 12:21 on Oct 29, 2020 |
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BurritoJustice posted:AMD providing a TDP (power efficiency champs!!) then showing all their benchmarks with the vaguely named "RAGE MODE" that is just a power slider to increase the TDP is the shadiest first party benchmark trick I've seen in a while. And they seem to have gotten away with it for the majority, if you look at most other forums. tbf they did only do that for OC'd 6900 vs OC'd 3090 i think but maybe i remembered wrong i wasn't 100% paying attention
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Oct 29, 2020 12:21
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Heliosicle posted:A few hundred of those + the eagles arrived in NL yesterday so think that queue will be fairly quick (if supply is the same wherever you are) NOVEMBER FLOOD!
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Oct 29, 2020 12:26
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another slightly questionable thing was them hyping up the set bonus for zen3+rdna2 but then only showing the performance gain combined with rage mode so it's not really clear what the gain is from smart memory access, those gains could just be because the card is overclocked 
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Oct 29, 2020 12:27
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The Sphyre promise will yet be fulfilled
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Heliosicle posted:A few hundred of those + the eagles arrived in NL yesterday so think that queue will be fairly quick (if supply is the same wherever you are) yeah I got hold of a very friendly and helpful sales rep who gave me queue length and how many they had gotten of each card the last few weeks - if supply keeps up I should have it within a month or so which is perfectly fine
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Oct 29, 2020 12:32
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BurritoJustice posted:AMD providing a TDP (power efficiency champs!!) then showing all their benchmarks with the vaguely named "RAGE MODE" that is just a power slider to increase the TDP is the shadiest first party benchmark trick I've seen in a while. And they seem to have gotten away with it for the majority, if you look at most other forums. nonsense, consider the other 6900XT benchmarks such as:
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repiv posted:another slightly questionable thing was them hyping up the set bonus for zen3+rdna2 but then only showing the performance gain combined with rage mode according to gamer jesus, rage mode is 1-2% boost at most, the rest is from SMA
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Truga posted:according to gamer jesus, rage mode is 1-2% boost at most, the rest is from SMA oh neat, so when is AMD going to open their SMA/DMA interface here so others can have the same advantage? open standards are best guys! You shouldn't buy anything without open standards ! Only open standards ! gosh, wonder why NVIDIA wanted to buy ARM Paul MaudDib fucked around with this message at 12:39 on Oct 29, 2020 |
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Truga posted:tbf they did only do that for OC'd 6900 vs OC'd 3090 i think but maybe i remembered wrong i wasn't 100% paying attention Bone stock 3090. It also uses their ryzen 5000 exclusive memory access but I guess that's more understandable as a hot feature. I want NVIDIA to counter with a TDP figure at min power target and benchmark numbers with a Strix at 480W
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Patiently waiting for the 3070 to go on sale in an hour and a half. It looks like it's going to sell out fast in the UK, hundreds of people are on the Scan website right now, looking at the cards. If I don't manage to snag one, can anyone recommend an alternative? The 2080 Super is still £600-£700 here.
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