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Fo3
Feb 14, 2004

RAAAAARGH!!!! GIFT CARDS ARE FUCKING RETARDED!!!!

(I need a hug)

Doh004 posted:

Gravity, was it you who posted a big thread/post on the different types of chiles and their uses out there? Or am I mistaken? Anyone know?
Know what?
I know grav has posted about them, dino. too.
What info do you need?
If it's Mexican or annuums I'm clueless, they never do well for me, so I haven't bothered with getting many.
But I have a bit of knowledge on South American, Caribbean, Indian and Asian types (mainly chinense and baccatum though)

But if it's annuums and Mexican, I think you're right and grav has posted about them in detail before, and probably mentioned them recently in the herb/garden thread too.

Fo3 fucked around with this message at 18:00 on Jul 3, 2013

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Doh004
Apr 22, 2007

Mmmmm Donuts...

Fo3 posted:

Know what?
I know grav has posted about them, dino. too.
What info do you need?
If it's Mexican or annuums I'm clueless, they never do well for me, so I haven't bothered with getting many.
But I have a bit of knowledge on South American, carribean, Indian and asian types (mainly chinense and baccatum)

But if it's annuums and Mexican, I think you're right and grav has posted about them in detail before, and probably mentioned them recently in the herb/garden thread recently too.

I was just curious as I'm looking into making some chili con carne. The Blumenthal video that was posted recently looked loving awesome. While I don't need to replicate his recipe precisely because holy amount of steps, I'd like a good idea of what chiles I should try to find/buy online.

Fo3
Feb 14, 2004

RAAAAARGH!!!! GIFT CARDS ARE FUCKING RETARDED!!!!

(I need a hug)
There's three sub species mainly used for culinary purposes. Annuum (from central Mexico but spread by the Portuguese to Europe, West India, lower africa, and asia).
Baccatum which pretty much stayed in South America.
Also Chinense (from the Yucatan peninsula where habaneros are from), to the Caribbean islands and even spread to West Africa by the slave trade, and to India by the British.
There's also the sub species of Frutescens and Pubescens, plus a bunch of wild sub species.
If you want to look at a source like thechileman.org, they list 3773 different chilli varieties.
If you are only interested in culinary types, good online seed stores sell about 200 types at least. Like https://www.pepperseeds.eu
If you want to buy from a supermarket or whatever, lucky if you have the choice of three different types fresh, and 4 others in canned or dried form.

If you don't want to grow any, but want to try heaps, best bet is to find and join a local general growers forum, or specialist chilli growing forum and buy heaps of fresh or dried pods in your mid/late summer season, as the home enthusiast or small time grower has a lot more variety than the supermarket or big time grower.

Edit: This guy http://www.oldbarnnursery.com/store/index.php/podsdried sells a lot of varieties in the USA, as he and his family were into it as much as I was at one time. If you buy from there, tell him fo3 sent you, I was known as fo3oz in his forum.

Also, I can't go without mentioning Jeff's dried peppers. http://driedhotpeppers.com/ The site probably renders shite, but these guys are in the middle of nowhere, I took a couple of years getting to know them and they are genuine hard working people and would trust them with my life.

Fo3 fucked around with this message at 18:44 on Jul 3, 2013

GrAviTy84
Nov 25, 2004

was it this thing? http://www.foodsubs.com/Chiledry.html

Fo3
Feb 14, 2004

RAAAAARGH!!!! GIFT CARDS ARE FUCKING RETARDED!!!!

(I need a hug)
if you want some type of primer on chillies (or any spice), Gernot Katzer has a page on it too.
http://gernot-katzers-spice-pages.com/engl/Caps_fru.html#chili-general

Filboid Studge
Oct 1, 2010
And while they debated the matter among themselves, Conradin made himself another piece of toast.

There is a Heston chili recipe that involves carrots. And almost no chiles.

Fo3
Feb 14, 2004

RAAAAARGH!!!! GIFT CARDS ARE FUCKING RETARDED!!!!

(I need a hug)
I like the one where he used mince meat (ground beef), and also lit wood on fire around the bowl before serving for that smoky flavour...

Chef De Cuisinart
Oct 31, 2010

Brandy does in fact, in my experience, contribute to Getting Down.
Heston didn't even make his own chili powder, he just blended some ground chiles! My biggest irritation is that he went to DC to taste chili. Texas is the true chili Mecca. :colbert:

Fo3
Feb 14, 2004

RAAAAARGH!!!! GIFT CARDS ARE FUCKING RETARDED!!!!

(I need a hug)
Hatch NM I think. :D
Meaning chillies, chilli pepper, or hot peppers, pods; not 'chili' the dish cooked.

Fo3 fucked around with this message at 19:05 on Jul 3, 2013

GrAviTy84
Nov 25, 2004

Hatch chiles are kind of like Jamaica Blue Mountain coffee these days. They have the history of being fantastic but huge popularity and increased demand and just made them meh.

Doh004
Apr 22, 2007

Mmmmm Donuts...
Thanks for the info guys, much appreciated. And yes, Gravity, that was what I was thinking. Now I really want chili.

Fo3
Feb 14, 2004

RAAAAARGH!!!! GIFT CARDS ARE FUCKING RETARDED!!!!

(I need a hug)

GrAviTy84 posted:

Hatch chiles are kind of like Jamaica Blue Mountain coffee these days. They have the history of being fantastic but huge popularity and increased demand and just made them meh.
Yeah, I grow my own of course, living in Aus. But if I was in the US I would buy from people I know and trust, not go to the chilli festival in Hatch. I was just giving CDC a smart arse remark because they mentioned Texas as the true chilli mecca.

dino.
Mar 28, 2010

Yip Yip, bitch.

Doh004 posted:

I was just curious as I'm looking into making some chili con carne. The Blumenthal video that was posted recently looked loving awesome. While I don't need to replicate his recipe precisely because holy amount of steps, I'd like a good idea of what chiles I should try to find/buy online.

Go. To. Queens. There are huge Mexican and Indian stores in Jackson Heights, which all sell them hella cheap. You have no excuse to order online. >.<

Doh004
Apr 22, 2007

Mmmmm Donuts...

dino. posted:

Go. To. Queens. There are huge Mexican and Indian stores in Jackson Heights, which all sell them hella cheap. You have no excuse to order online. >.<

Yes sir :unsmith:

Pollyanna
Mar 5, 2005

Milk's on them.


I made a risotto. :3: I actually really like the dish, and I think I understand it pretty well now. I need some more practice with it, but I'm quite happy with the results. I'm just happy to have made a decent, if simple, dish :unsmith:

I'd like to thank garlic and parmesan cheese for being loving delicious and Gordon Ramsay for inspiring me to not loving undercook the rice :ramsay:

KirbyJ
Oct 30, 2012
(Reposting from a different forum so this might seem a little longwinded for a chat, but I'm not sure it belongs in it's own thread. Apologies, and thanks for the help!)

So because the grilling season is well upon us and because my neighborhood's big garbage takeaway is swiftly approaching, I'm looking at the two rusty old grills on my back porch in a continuing effort to reclaim parts of my house and kitchen as actually usable space. Specifically, I want to know what I'm supposed to look for to indicate whether a grill is worth the time and effort to try to reclaim or whether it's junk to be thrown out.

The first one, the most likely to go since it's been exposed to the weather for years on end is my dad's propane grill. I've been informed that it's been a difficult piece of machinery since we first got it, and the years have not been kind to it, as even covered the grates are covered in rust and a patina of discoloration. The starter sounds like it's trying to spark something (I unfortunately don't have any propane to test whether or not it will successfully fire), but I haven't looked much at the connections and in the actual guts of the burners yet because I don't really know what I'm looking for and the lighting was pretty poor.

The second grill is much more hopeful, as it's a simple charcoal grill that's been covered with a tarp, and while it needs a thorough cleaning (I've seen a few insects run under the tarp over the years and when I opened the lid I saw a pretty big, abandoned hornet's nest smack dab on the grate) and the grates are rusted up to different degrees, the bottom looks pretty solidly intact and, well, there aren't exactly a lot of working parts that are available to screw up.

So, if I want to try to resurrect one (or possibly both!) of these grills, what should I be looking for? I can get some pictures with my tablet once there's better lighting if necessary.

Aramoro
Jun 1, 2012




Chef De Cuisinart posted:

Heston didn't even make his own chili powder, he just blended some ground chiles! My biggest irritation is that he went to DC to taste chili. Texas is the true chili Mecca. :colbert:

How else would you make Chilli powder other than blending ground chillies?

Heston's Chilli Powder was

2-3 dried devil's penis chillies
2-3 dried bird's-eye chillies
1 tsp Somalian extra hot chilli powder
10g sweet smoked paprika
10g Durango ground chilli powder
10g El Rey ground chilli powder
10g Madera ground chilli powder
20g Pecos Red ground chilli powder
20g Rio Tejas ground chilli powder

I like the fact the International Chilli Society rules say a chilli can contain literally anything except beans and pasta. You can make it out of battery acid and rubber tyres as long as there's no beans in there. If that's the Mecca of chilli then it's a loving stupid Mecca. All the winners of the International (?) Chilli cookoffs just throw commercial chilli blends, albeit a lot of them, in with some commercial stock, tinned tomatoes and there you go. Is that the pinnacle of chilli cooking?

Aramoro fucked around with this message at 13:50 on Jul 4, 2013

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004

коммунизм хранится в яичках

Aramoro posted:

I like the fact the International Chilli Society rules say a chilli can contain literally anything except beans and pasta. You can make it out of battery acid and rubber tyres as long as there's no beans in there. If that's the Mecca of chilli then it's a loving stupid Mecca. All the winners of the International (?) Chilli cookoffs just throw commercial chilli blends, albeit a lot of them, in with some commercial stock, tinned tomatoes and there you go. Is that the pinnacle of chilli cooking?

It is if your definition of chili is so incredibly narrow that you can hit it straight in the numbers with a commercial blend every time.

BlueGrot
Jun 26, 2010

Im in Paris, Im hungry. Help.

Wahad
May 19, 2011

There is no escape.
Restaurant Chartier
7 Rue du Faubourg Montmartre 75009 PARIS
http://www.restaurant-chartier.com

Open until 10pm without reservation. Fantastic bistro food. You're welcome.

No Wave
Sep 18, 2005

HA! HA! NICE! WHAT A TOOL!

BlueGrot posted:

Im in Paris, Im hungry. Help.
Budget? Reservations can make life complicated in Paris.

120 euro prix fixe: Table du Nomicos in 11th is sick and you can get a table pretty much any time.

60 euro before drinks: Chez L'Ami Jean for one of the best, best, best restaurants you'll ever go to. Get rice pudding for dessert. Will be full - try for lunch.

45 euro b4 drinks: Septime is dope but probably hard to impossible to get a table (along with Frenchie). Vivant you probably can get a table and it is also gr8.

Slightly cheaper: Au Passage for one of the weirder restaurants (haven't been in Paris for a year+ so maybe it is different).

cheap: Ramen street Rue Saint-Anne is cool, best is probably Naritake ramen. L'as du falafel for the falafel.



I miss all of these restos a lot but I miss Chez L'ami Jean the most........

Iron Lung
Jul 24, 2007
Life.Iron Lung. Death.
Best falafel I ever had was in Paris: http://www.yelp.com/biz/l-as-du-fallafel-paris

Happy Hat
Aug 11, 2008

He just wants someone to shake his corks, is that too much to ask??

BlueGrot posted:

Im in Paris, Im hungry. Help.

http://www.l-europeen.com/

Always goes here - always sits at the sidewalk, always gets the européen platter..

Do this!

Do this alone - smoke galoises, drink alsacian wine, flirt shamelessly with french women and enjoy life!

BlueGrot
Jun 26, 2010

Your advice was late so I ate sinful mounts of foie gras and rack of lamb. Will follow advice tomorrow.

SubG
Aug 19, 2004

It's a hard world for little things.

BlueGrot posted:

Im in Paris, Im hungry. Help.
Get some bratwurst and sauerkraut. Oh wait that's German food and you're not eating it in Paris because of America. America America wooo go America.

:patriot: Happy 4th of July :patriot:

Casu Marzu
Oct 20, 2008

SubG posted:


:patriot: Happy 4th of July :patriot:

:patriot: Sittin on my deck eating watermelon and drinkin iced tea. Tonight is bonfires and moonshine. :patriot: Hell yeah.

BlueGrot
Jun 26, 2010

SubG posted:

Get some bratwurst and sauerkraut. Oh wait that's German food and you're not eating it in Paris because of America. America America wooo go America.

:patriot: Happy 4th of July :patriot:

You mean Russia.

therattle
Jul 24, 2007
Soiled Meat
When I was there we ate very well at Restaurant Wadja and Caffe Jadis. I liked them so much I noted the names.

SubG
Aug 19, 2004

It's a hard world for little things.

BlueGrot posted:

You mean Russia.
I think most of my Polish relatives expressed a preference for the German occupation, come to that.

What I mean to say is I can't hear you I'm too busy rocking the gently caress out to America.

No Wave
Sep 18, 2005

HA! HA! NICE! WHAT A TOOL!

No Wave posted:

Budget? Reservations can make life complicated in Paris.

120 euro prix fixe: Tablette de Nomicos in 11th is sick and you can get a table pretty much any time.

60 euro before drinks: Chez L'Ami Jean for one of the best, best, best restaurants you'll ever go to. Get rice pudding for dessert. Will be full - try for lunch.

45 euro b4 drinks: Septime is dope but probably hard to impossible to get a table (along with Frenchie). Vivant you probably can get a table and it is also gr8.

Slightly cheaper: Au Passage for one of the weirder restaurants (haven't been in Paris for a year+ so maybe it is different).

cheap: Ramen street Rue Saint-Anne is cool, best is probably Naritake ramen. L'as du falafel for the falafel.



I miss all of these restos a lot but I miss Chez L'ami Jean the most........
for real though, I lived there for a year and a half and made it my goal to eat out as possible and was completely obsessive about researching stuff. Like it was all I thought about for a year and this is the cream of the crop. please consider.

Dane
Jun 18, 2003

mmm... creamy.
I celebrated 4th of July by cooking chili and cornbread for friends, playing boardgames and drinking too much wine for a weekday. Happy Amuricaday, folks.

Fluffy Bunnies
Jan 10, 2009

We had hot dogs. I had the abomination of "veggie dogs" in Sara Lee buns. :patriot:

And it's free at the local on-base movie theatre today for everybody, so we're gonna go catch some movies shortly since nobody can really do any fireworks without burning the whole city down.

Drink and Fight
Feb 2, 2003

I have drunk my weight in bourbon and I am alone in my house singing along to Phil Collins youtubes.


















murca

Iron Lung
Jul 24, 2007
Life.Iron Lung. Death.
I burged pretty hard tonight even though it was a turkey burger. 'Murica-kinda. Too bad the fireworks are too low for us to see from the driveway.

Hawkperson
Jun 20, 2003

Wedding went fine and we watched fireworks from a restaurant on Maui. Sadly we have not done any goon-recommended things yet, because they're all on Oahu and we're not flying there until tomorrow afternoon.

We went snorkeling today and I saw a turtle!! And then we went jetskiing and got terrible sunburns. Now we are stuck in horrible fireworks traffic in Lahaina.

pr0k
Jan 16, 2001

"Well if it's gonna be
that kind of party..."
Congrats!

Fluffy Bunnies posted:

We had hot dogs. I had the abomination of "veggie dogs" in Sara Lee buns. :patriot:
Why would you do that to yourself.

We had grilled chicken-on-a-stick, watermelon, and wifey made good zucchini-parm crisps in the oven that even the kids ate. Simple as hell. I cut the zucs on the mandoline, she rubbed 'em with olive oil and breaded with panko, parm, salt, and pepper. 450 oven for a half hour I think. We ate two half-sheets of the fuckers. Nice light summer dinner then saw a bunch of "wee-booms" as the kids call 'em.

Fluffy Bunnies
Jan 10, 2009

pr0k posted:

Congrats!

Why would you do that to yourself.

We had grilled chicken-on-a-stick, watermelon, and wifey made good zucchini-parm crisps in the oven that even the kids ate. Simple as hell. I cut the zucs on the mandoline, she rubbed 'em with olive oil and breaded with panko, parm, salt, and pepper. 450 oven for a half hour I think. We ate two half-sheets of the fuckers. Nice light summer dinner then saw a bunch of "wee-booms" as the kids call 'em.

Masochism, pure and simple. They tasted like salty little assholes wrapped in hatred. The bun was pure sadness. Together, those veggie dogs represented all the trials and tribulations people face when trying to reach their American :patriot: Dream :911: .

Did you grill the watermelon? Because you totally should have.


Hawkgirl posted:

Wedding went fine and we watched fireworks from a restaurant on Maui. Sadly we have not done any goon-recommended things yet, because they're all on Oahu and we're not flying there until tomorrow afternoon.

We went snorkeling today and I saw a turtle!! And then we went jetskiing and got terrible sunburns. Now we are stuck in horrible fireworks traffic in Lahaina.

Aww, congratulations dude. I hope you enjoyed sleeping in that traffic because you probably did knowing Hawaii. But sea turtles are awesome and so is snorkeling.

Flash Gordon Ramsay
Sep 28, 2004

Grimey Drawer
My dad attempted to smoke pork back ribs. They smelled like a house fire. I'm sure something got hosed up, but I'm not sure what. Could it be because the heat was too high?

Squashy Nipples
Aug 18, 2007

I've never eaten a veggie hotdog, but the non-meat-eating GF claims that she loves them. Guess I'll have to try one sometime?

Since I'm a dirty terrorist sympathizer, I made grilled kofta yesterday for the 4th:



That's what was leftover after I ate; I keep forgetting that I'm the only meat eater in the house. Lebanese style, so I probably should have made them cigar shaped, but I love roasting chunks of onion between meat. I ate this with pita bread, fresh made creamy tahini-garlic sauce, sliced tomatoes, and spicy pickles... and some (store bought) red skin potato salad.



EDIT:
Oh yeah, murica.

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Zuhzuhzombie!!
Apr 17, 2008
FACTS ARE A CONSPIRACY BY THE CAPITALIST OPRESSOR
I'll be back in NYC, staying in downtown Manhattan, in the middle of next month (August). Any places I should go check out/eat? Let me know if I still have time to make reservations at some of the really good ones. If any of you goons work in Manhattan let me know and I'd love to be a customer.

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