Wrestling Video Games: Fire Pro Is Like The Ultimate Tinker Toy For Wrestling Fans.

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ParanoidInc: Apr 27, 2013; You dun scuffed me for the last time you no-good Zayn boy!; Fun Shoe

does he have a mechanic in to help simulate the DDT Ironman Heavymetalweight title yet because thtat's what's really important to me

# ? Mar 28, 2016 18:19

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# ? May 30, 2024 10:15

Baron La Croix: Nov 2, 2010; rastah farah
sonnah maddah fah

And when can I feed disobedient workers to my brother in the basement?

# ? Mar 28, 2016 19:42

ChrisBTY: Mar 29, 2012; this glorious monument

Baron La Croix posted:

And when can I feed disobedient workers to my brother in the basement?

You can do that in the 2013 angle maker.
Just set your brother to be rated on 'Menace'
and set the disobedient worker(s) to be rated on 'Deliciousness'.

# ? Mar 28, 2016 20:44

coconono: Aug 11, 2004; KISS ME KRIS

2k16 would be a lot more fun if the refs had a field of vision you could exploit. I don't even think you can do the ol Latino Heat misdirection gag anymore.

give to me more heelishness, 2kgames.

# ? Mar 28, 2016 20:54

The Bee: Nov 25, 2012; Making his way to the ring . . .
from Deep in the Jungle . . .

The Big Monkey!

coconono posted:

2k16 would be a lot more fun if the refs had a field of vision you could exploit. I don't even think you can do the ol Latino Heat misdirection gag anymore.

give to me more heelishness, 2kgames.

I know in tag matches I go to town on other wrestlers routinely while my friend faces the ref the other way.

# ? Mar 28, 2016 21:55

Jenny Angel: Oct 24, 2010; Out of Control
Hard to Regulate
Anything Goes!; Lipstick Apathy

The Bee posted:

I know in tag matches I go to town on other wrestlers routinely while my friend faces the ref the other way.

What can you specifically do in that context, though? Are there dirty moves that do damage quicker than clean equivalents? Do you sneak a foreign object in and drop it before the ref turns around? I feel like all the shady heel poo poo you can do in a tag match either doesn't give you much of an advantage over fighting clean, or it's not counted as illegal (e.g. sending the enemy to the outside near your corner and wailing on him 2-on-1)

# ? Mar 28, 2016 22:07

Charlie72: Apr 21, 2010

Tew posted:

Mar 28: Scumbag Owners

If an owner of a sub-Cult company has a particularly ugly personality then he now falls under the heading of Scumbag Owner. Workers who get this categorisation - and they'd have to be pretty rotten people to do so - generate special incidents where they stiff employees on payments, do scummy behaviour like organise fraudulent kickstarter campaings, beat up rookies backstage, etc. They are also extra likely to develop bad relationships with their employees and have walk outs happen. This adds to the realism of the game.

Dixie Carter/Ian Rotten Mode active.

# ? Mar 29, 2016 00:43

triplexpac: Mar 24, 2007; Suck it
Two tears in a bucket
And then another thing
I'm not the one they'll try their luck with
Hit hard like brass knuckles
See your face through the turnbuckle dude
I got no love for you

Charlie72 posted:

Dixie Carter/Ian Rotten Mode active.

I hope there's some kind of upside to being a scummy owner. It's a game, there shouldn't be features that are just purely negative so everyone will avoid them.

# ? Mar 29, 2016 00:58

projecthalaxy: Dec 27, 2008; Yes hello it is I Kurt's Secret Son

what is the upside to working for, or indeed being, Dixie or Ian in real life?

# ? Mar 29, 2016 01:44

Gaz-L: Jan 28, 2009

projecthalaxy posted:

what is the upside to working for, or indeed being, Dixie or Ian in real life?

All the tacos you can eat from your shoot job.

# ? Mar 29, 2016 01:50

The Narrator: Aug 11, 2011; bernie would have won

triplexpac posted:

I hope there's some kind of upside to being a scummy owner. It's a game, there shouldn't be features that are just purely negative so everyone will avoid them.

Stiffing pay obviously saves you money, beating up rookies might contribute to fear-based discipline?

What's great/tragic is that, just like real life, scumbag owners will still get fresh employees coming to them because wrestlers still need to get paid :smith:

# ? Mar 29, 2016 01:51

projecthalaxy: Dec 27, 2008; Yes hello it is I Kurt's Secret Son

Is there a button in the Scumbag Owner menu to straight up Mike Levy some kid and it only works if he has no experience. That'd be interesting.

# ? Mar 29, 2016 01:57

Testekill: Nov 1, 2012; I demand to be taken seriously

projecthalaxy posted:

Is there a button in the Scumbag Owner menu to straight up Mike Levy some kid and it only works if he has no experience. That'd be interesting.

It'll probably just be a random event backstage

# ? Mar 29, 2016 02:02

Basic Chunnel: Sep 21, 2010; Jesus! Jesus Christ! Say his name! Jesus! Jesus! Come down now!

triplexpac posted:

I hope there's some kind of upside to being a scummy owner. It's a game, there shouldn't be features that are just purely negative so everyone will avoid them.

Very (pretty) sure that things like this only affect AI behavior. Sort of like how it doesn't matter what the worker you choose as an avatar is like irl, you can make them do whatever you want

# ? Mar 29, 2016 02:26

The Bee: Nov 25, 2012; Making his way to the ring . . .
from Deep in the Jungle . . .

The Big Monkey!

Jenny Angel posted:

What can you specifically do in that context, though? Are there dirty moves that do damage quicker than clean equivalents? Do you sneak a foreign object in and drop it before the ref turns around? I feel like all the shady heel poo poo you can do in a tag match either doesn't give you much of an advantage over fighting clean, or it's not counted as illegal (e.g. sending the enemy to the outside near your corner and wailing on him 2-on-1)

Tons of foreign objects, until I slip up and do it in the ref's eyesight.

# ? Mar 29, 2016 07:32

Testekill: Nov 1, 2012; I demand to be taken seriously

quote:

Mar 29: Gimmicks Upgrade

The entire gimmick system has been completely overhauled to be both more realistic and far easier to understand. Amongst the changes are gimmick life cycles that allow worker's gimmicks to peak and wane, and gimmick tweaks that allow the user to try and extend the lifespan of successful gimmicks by adjusting them slightly. The way gimmicks are rated has also been revamped, making it less of a lottery, and their impact on the game has also been redone.

Mar 29: Preset Gimmick Settings

Mod makers can now use the editor to preset not only a gimmick's rating but also how long of a lifespan it has left and how freshly it was altered.

Mar 29: Gimmick Copying

For realism, if a company assigns a gimmick to a worker and he is already using it in another company, the rating will be the same to reflect that it is already well known how well he performs it.

Mar 29: AI Gimmicks

In previous games the AI did not alter its workers' gimmicks when turning them, leading to a messy roster. This has been altered so that the AI will switch the gimmick accordingly.

Mar 29: Manual Gimmick Changes

As with turns, the user can now manually decide when a gimmick change is to take place (rather than it happening the next time they appear on screen). This gives the user a far greater degree of control, especially if the gimmick change is being done at the same time as a turn.

Mar 29: Gimmick Changes With A Turn

The 'too soon for a gimmick change' penalty previously made turns tricky, as logically just changing a gimmick also then precluded a turn for a few months (unless the gimmick could work with both dispositions). A turn now allows a gimmick change to happen without this penalty if done simultaneously, thus eliminating this annoyance and allowing the player to be more creative.

Mar 29: Default Gimmick Auto Pass

To improve the way gimmicks work, a worker's default gimmicks are now automatically considered to be appropriate for them, irrespective of whether their stats genuinely fulfil the criteria. This is especially useful for mod makers who no longer have to check each gimmick for each worker using them.

Mar 29: Harder Non-Aggression Pacts
Mar 29: Harder Working Agreements

In previous games it was too easy for human-controlled smaller companies to get non-aggression or working agreements with larger AI-controlled companies who had no real incentive to agree. This acted as a sort of loophole as the user got lots of advantages but few, if any, disadvantages. The AI is now smarter about rejecting relationship requests that have no benefit to them.

Mar 29: Alliance-Mate Pacts

If a human-controlled company attempts to create a positive relationship with another company who are in the same alliance then the likelihood of it being accepted greatly increases. This adds another benefit to being in an alliance.

Mar 29: Pact Switching

In previous games there was no easy way of switching your relationship with another company without first ending the original, risking a war. This has been addressed by allowing the company to propose moving directly from one relationship type to another.

Mar 29: AI Alliance Joining

AI companies can now choose to apply to join alliances whenever they want to. Previously it was limited to when the user actively made offers. This makes a more dynamic game world.

Mar 29: Preset Alliance Membership

By request, mod makers can now preset certain companies to join specific alliances when they debut.

Mar 29: Leaving Alliance Reaction

In previous games a company could quit an alliance with few consequences; this has been changed so that the remaining members can get annoyed or even declare war at the betrayal.

Mar 29: Monday Night Wars

A national battle is now triggered with two rivals, not three, so that the real life Monday Night Wars can be simulated.

Gimmicks have been changed a bit

# ? Mar 29, 2016 11:52

Veryslightlymad: Jun 3, 2007; I fight with
my brain
and with an
underlying
hatred of the
Erebonian
Noble Faction

Basic Chunnel posted:

Very (pretty) sure that things like this only affect AI behavior. Sort of like how it doesn't matter what the worker you choose as an avatar is like irl, you can make them do whatever you want

You can't turn off their soft drugs habit. You'd think there'd be a "Quit drugs" option.

# ? Mar 29, 2016 12:15

Dishwasher: Dec 5, 2006; Congratulations on not getting fit in 2011!

Everybody is fighting with 2k16, when they should really be playing the No Mercy mod Showdown 64 as their current wrestling game. Bonus points for being able to run it at a brisk 60 fps on PCs, eliminating my main beef with that game. Look at this monster! The forum that hosts it, Old Skool Reunion, is pretty chill too and has lots of other projects like porting a bunch of WM2000 and Revenge dudes to VPW2 and a New Generation mod.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eSr-jKZZ98

It's ridiculous how much better the AKI system still is than our current alternatives. Has anyone tried playing it online?

Dishwasher fucked around with this message at 12:34 on Mar 29, 2016

# ? Mar 29, 2016 12:31

Call Me Charlie: Dec 3, 2005; by Smythe

Dishwasher posted:

Everybody is fighting with 2k16, when they should really be playing the No Mercy mod Showdown 64 as their current wrestling game. Bonus points for being able to run it at a brisk 60 fps on PCs, eliminating my main beef with that game. Look at this monster! The forum that hosts it, Old Skool Reunion, is pretty chill too and has lots of other projects like porting a bunch of WM2000 and Revenge dudes to VPW2 and a New Generation mod.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eSr-jKZZ98

It's ridiculous how much better the AKI system still is than our current alternatives. Has anyone tried playing it online?

Is there a safe place to get pj64? Their site is blocked by Chrome and I heard certain versions have adware.

# ? Mar 29, 2016 13:07

Dishwasher: Dec 5, 2006; Congratulations on not getting fit in 2011!

As long as it's version 2.1 and is a RAR file instead of EXE, you should be good to go at any of the other sites you can get it.

# ? Mar 29, 2016 13:29

Jenny Angel: Oct 24, 2010; Out of Control
Hard to Regulate
Anything Goes!; Lipstick Apathy

triplexpac posted:

I hope there's some kind of upside to being a scummy owner. It's a game, there shouldn't be features that are just purely negative so everyone will avoid them.

Features with no direct upsides have existed in games for decades, they're called difficulty settings. Letting a bunch of scumbag owners loose in the world and trying to deal with them sounds like a fun self-imposed challenge.

# ? Mar 29, 2016 14:40

Pope Corky the IX: Dec 18, 2006; What are you looking at?

Le Saboteur posted:

EA UFC 2 had the whole crossing yourself after a victory thing patched out today completely. So no more Khabib being suddenly Catholic after a win.

I'm honestly surprised this didn't cause a bigger problem.

# ? Mar 29, 2016 14:44

Snacksmaniac: Jan 12, 2008

Dishwasher posted:

It's ridiculous how much better the AKI system still is than our current alternatives. Has anyone tried playing it online?

I think we got No Mercy to work online twice, once with a mod, once without.

# ? Mar 29, 2016 15:05

Davros1: Jul 19, 2007; You've got to admit, you are kind of implausible

Veryslightlymad posted:

You can't turn off their soft drugs habit. You'd think there'd be a "Quit drugs" option.

Give it a "Quit Drugs" option, but then it randomly turn on at a later point.

# ? Mar 29, 2016 15:15

Veryslightlymad: Jun 3, 2007; I fight with
my brain
and with an
underlying
hatred of the
Erebonian
Noble Faction

Davros1 posted:

Give it a "Quit Drugs" option, but then it randomly turn on at a later point.

Oh, you can actually just go into the editor. I'm gonna call this acceptable cheating, since it's literally the only part of my "personality" I can't control.

# ? Mar 29, 2016 16:35

Perry Normal: Jul 23, 2010; Humans disgust me. Vile creatures.

Tomahawk posted:

If I just wanna play out some WCW 1996-1998 fantasies is WWE 2k16 the game for me?

Yes, I think so.

If you dedicated your entire universe mode to WCW, you'd have any WCW guys already in the game and 100 CAW spots to fill with everyone else.

My Universe mode has a classic WWF and a WCW brand (along with 4 modern brands). I've got them set up to occasionally crossover for WWF vs WCW events.

Stunning Steve Austin is in the midst of a very long world title run right now. Outsiders just picked the tag belts up from Benoit/Malenko. Didn't have a Great American Bash logo when I made the show, so I used Dusty's face texture for the logo which worked out great.

Shot from one of the WWF vs WCW events

# ? Mar 29, 2016 17:20

Dishwasher: Dec 5, 2006; Congratulations on not getting fit in 2011!

About the best thing about this game is the ability to book ridiculous fantasy and old school events that look drat near like they're official content. I really wish they'd fix the gameplay issues because everything around the game is perfection.

# ? Mar 29, 2016 17:58

remusclaw: Dec 8, 2009

How do you cutoff the timelines? I do this occasionally but always get into arguments with myself as to whether Stone Cold, Shawn Michaels, or Bret Hart, go in the modern roster or the retro roster. I mean, in this one does Stone Cold go modern because we have Stunning Steve for the classic, or does WWF get to run Stone Cold in opposition to WCW's Stunning Steve?

On the other hand, its not like there isn't plenty of Stone Cold to go around in this one.

remusclaw fucked around with this message at 18:08 on Mar 29, 2016

# ? Mar 29, 2016 18:04

Dishwasher: Dec 5, 2006; Congratulations on not getting fit in 2011!

Did anyone ever figure out how to get more cutscenes during universe mode or is it still broken?

# ? Mar 29, 2016 18:08

remusclaw: Dec 8, 2009

From what I understand, they made it so cut-scenes only happen during rivalry's now, which sucks.

# ? Mar 29, 2016 18:09

1st AD: Dec 3, 2004; Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu: sometimes passing just isn't an option.

Anyone playing 2k16 on PC? How do you create and upload logos? I'm sick of not having PPV logos for a bunch of WCW PPV's.

Also it's funny if you just sim through years' worth of matches and then start swapping guys to other brands. The Vaudevillains got signed to my WCW which is basically 1998 without Hogan and Flair on top, they immediately beat Hall and Nash and are holding onto the titles forever. I just wish there was a way to manually edit the attribute stacks, it'd be cool to just be able to get some kind of injury going for someone without having to beat the poo poo out of them in a match.

Dishwasher posted:

Did anyone ever figure out how to get more cutscenes during universe mode or is it still broken?

remusclaw posted:

From what I understand, they made it so cut-scenes only happen during rivalry's now, which sucks.

In 2k15 this barely worked anyways. I do wish they kept in some stuff from the older games like letting you do a run-in with someone not booked in a match. Also give me the drat special referee match back :argh:

# ? Mar 29, 2016 18:18

remusclaw: Dec 8, 2009

1st AD posted:

Anyone playing 2k16 on PC? How do you create and upload logos? I'm sick of not having PPV logos for a bunch of WCW PPV's.

Also it's funny if you just sim through years' worth of matches and then start swapping guys to other brands. The Vaudevillains got signed to my WCW which is basically 1998 without Hogan and Flair on top, they immediately beat Hall and Nash and are holding onto the titles forever. I just wish there was a way to manually edit the attribute stacks, it'd be cool to just be able to get some kind of injury going for someone without having to beat the poo poo out of them in a match.

In 2k15 this barely worked anyways. I do wish they kept in some stuff from the older games like letting you do a run-in with someone not booked in a match. Also give me the drat special referee match back

https://wwe.2k.com/wwe2k16logo/index.php
same as on the console, though I'm sure there are ways to do it manually.

Universe mode is a faster loading less entertaining version of Smackdown 2's season mode.

Still, best actual wrestling match gameplay in about a decade. FPR came out in 07 and KOC II in 04.

remusclaw fucked around with this message at 18:33 on Mar 29, 2016

# ? Mar 29, 2016 18:23

Dishwasher: Dec 5, 2006; Congratulations on not getting fit in 2011!

Speaking of old games, has there ever been a gameshark code that allowed instant title matches on WCW/NWO Revenge without having to play 10 matches? I remember there being a code to skip straight to the champion and Google is yielding nothing.

# ? Mar 29, 2016 19:31

long-ass nips Diane: Dec 13, 2010; Breathe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLg_aIlhe6I

# ? Mar 29, 2016 19:41

Steve Vader: Apr 29, 2005; Everyone's Playing!

I can't bring myself to buy 2k16 even though I now have an XBone, because if I can't put in authentic theme music for Koko B Ware, Brutus Beefcake, Honky Tonk Man and the Fabulous Rougeau Brothers, I will not feel whole.

# ? Mar 29, 2016 20:13

Lady Naga: Apr 25, 2008; Voyons Donc!

Swagger Dagger posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLg_aIlhe6I

"Recreating ourselves in wwe 2k16"
*thumbnail is a bunch of community creations*

# ? Mar 29, 2016 20:23

Diddums: Jan 31, 2014

Did 2k ever release a way to delete downloaded logos? I've got a lot cluttering up my list from caws that I deleted but can't find a way to get rid of the logos.

# ? Mar 29, 2016 20:24

Super No Vacancy: Jul 26, 2012

i think there was a system message about adding that last time i booted up but idk

# ? Mar 29, 2016 20:58

Dishwasher: Dec 5, 2006; Congratulations on not getting fit in 2011!

Dishwasher posted:

Speaking of old games, has there ever been a gameshark code that allowed instant title matches on WCW/NWO Revenge without having to play 10 matches? I remember there being a code to skip straight to the champion and Google is yielding nothing.

Found it after a lot of digging, if anyone cares.

Instant Title Match on Championship Mode:
80038AAB 0008

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Diddums: Jan 31, 2014

Super No Vacancy posted:

i think there was a system message about adding that last time i booted up but idk

I could find a note in patch notes about deleting logos you had uploaded, but not ones you downloaded.

Diddums fucked around with this message at 21:37 on Mar 29, 2016

# ? Mar 29, 2016 21:27

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