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Some bikes use the ignition barrel but some have a separate lock that locks only the forks. My old SOHC Hondas all had separate locks. vvv Edit: I get the picture that he stuck the key in the lock, forgot about it and then sheared the head off by banging it off of something. Bugdrvr fucked around with this message at 23:42 on Aug 5, 2014 |
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Same, my old CL350 has a separate thing underneath the triple that you use to lock the forks. I don't see how it could break the key, though...the latch is a little metal pin that pops out. The key doesn't enter into it.
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Aug 5, 2014 21:01
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The offending fork lock.
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Aug 6, 2014 00:11
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That's weird. Every steering lock I've seen is either on the bottom of the triple tree attached to the forks (so the key is in the same position relative to the yoke and can't be crushed) or integrated into the ignition. That's crazy.
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Aug 6, 2014 05:45
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Geirskogul posted:That's weird. Every steering lock I've seen is either on the bottom of the triple tree attached to the forks (so the key is in the same position relative to the yoke and can't be crushed) or integrated into the ignition. That's crazy. The weirdest part is that it is a different key from the ignition key, which is probably intentional so that when you gently caress it up you can still start the hike. Suzuki 
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Aug 6, 2014 06:00
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Chichevache posted:The weirdest part is that it is a different key from the ignition key, which is probably intentional so that when you gently caress it up you can still start the hike. Suzuki what the christ.
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Aug 6, 2014 08:29
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I'm reasonably sure my Husky's steering lock worked the same way.
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Aug 6, 2014 17:54
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Almost every moped I've ever seen, and lots of older (70s or older) motorcycles has the same model of steering lock, so it's not like it's some great oddity. And they all have separate keys for the steering lock and the ignition, since the cylinder for the steering lock is mush smaller.
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Aug 6, 2014 19:43
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Nidhg00670000 posted:Almost every moped I've ever seen, and lots of older (70s or older) motorcycles has the same model of steering lock, so it's not like it's some great oddity. And they all have separate keys for the steering lock and the ignition, since the cylinder for the steering lock is mush smaller. Knowing Suzuki it is their 70s steering lock.
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Aug 6, 2014 20:39
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My 1964 Honda S90 has a separate lock for the steering on the forks. I don't have the key for it.
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Aug 6, 2014 22:18
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Come to think of it, the fork lock on my CL350 may well have been supposed to use a different key, but you can turn it with a screwdriver so  Same for the gas cap latch. Anything remotely key-shaped will open it.
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Aug 7, 2014 00:50
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I like it. The world is your spare gas key.
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Aug 7, 2014 00:52
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My mate once had a corolla where the ignition barrel was so worn, any key from any Toyota would start the car. Eventually he just started using a screwdriver.
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Aug 7, 2014 02:31
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Sounds about right. I had an RX7 that took just about any Mazda shaped key.
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Aug 7, 2014 02:34
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Slavvy posted:My mate once had a corolla where the ignition barrel was so worn, any key from any Toyota would start the car. Eventually he just started using a screwdriver. Heh, any Japanese car from the 70s up until the late 90s could be forcibly started using a screwdriver. It's pretty hilarious.
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Aug 7, 2014 03:15
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Slavvy posted:My mate once had a corolla where the ignition barrel was so worn, any key from any Toyota would start the car. Eventually he just started using a screwdriver. I took my AE86 to an AE86 meet once and most of the attendees' keys would open/start most of the cars there.
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Aug 7, 2014 03:19
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Odette posted:Heh, any Japanese car from the 70s up until the late 90s could be forcibly started using a screwdriver. It's pretty hilarious. It isn't when your car gets stolen 3 times in 3 months! 
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Aug 7, 2014 04:39
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HotCanadianChick posted:I took my AE86 to an AE86 meet once and most of the attendees' keys would open/start most of the cars there. Fords from the 70s right through to the 00s had this too. My mate was astonished to discover, six months after he sold his old Escort, that he'd given the new owner the keys to his Sierra, and neither had noticed until my mate tried to unlock the passenger door which hadn't worn down as much as the others.
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Aug 7, 2014 10:46
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Odette posted:Heh, any Japanese car from the 70s up until the late 90s could be forcibly started using a screwdriver. It's pretty hilarious. My local police department is giving away Clubs and other surplus steering locks to anyone who drives a pre-2000 Honda Civic.
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Aug 7, 2014 16:49
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Slavvy posted:My mate once had a corolla where the ignition barrel was so worn, any key from any Toyota would start the car. Eventually he just started using a screwdriver. This is all old toyotas. The keys are pretty interchangeable. I have an 83 supra, who's key is so old and worn that I haven't encountered an old toyota it wouldn't unlock and start. I once saw a guy that worked at the rental car place next to my old office trying to jimmy the lock of his 81 corolla with a coat hanger, I walked up, unlocked his door, waved him off and walked away 
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Aug 7, 2014 17:23
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SaNChEzZ posted:This is all old toyotas. The keys are pretty interchangeable. I have an 83 supra, who's key is so old and worn that I haven't encountered an old toyota it wouldn't unlock and start. I once saw a guy that worked at the rental car place next to my old office trying to jimmy the lock of his 81 corolla with a coat hanger, I walked up, unlocked his door, waved him off and walked away This is, oddly, not my experience: at the time I had my 1986 Corolla GT-S, for a while I also had a 1985 MR2 and a 1987 Supra Turbo, and none of their keys would work in each other's locks, likely because each of the three appeared to use different blanks. Might be those years were just new enough that they'd finally started using more than one model of tumblers/keys across their lineup.
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Aug 7, 2014 21:20
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HotCanadianChick posted:This is, oddly, not my experience: at the time I had my 1986 Corolla GT-S, for a while I also had a 1985 MR2 and a 1987 Supra Turbo, and none of their keys would work in each other's locks, likely because each of the three appeared to use different blanks. Might be those years were just new enough that they'd finally started using more than one model of tumblers/keys across their lineup. Could be, I'd like to say anything sub 84 used the same key.
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Aug 7, 2014 21:39
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Took a lunchtime ride to the local Indian dealership today, which was sort of special for a few reasons. First, I'm still in the early stages of mojo reacquisition. Just a few weeks ago, I was taking turns locked at vertical and committing every biker sin I've ever pointed out from the confines of a car. Not my best work. Eventually, you remember to put away the ruler and pull out the French curve. And I've only recently acknowledged that my tires aren't coated with 10W-40. Zero traction on a bike can turn the fearless into irrational spec monkeys. I don't recommend it. I've always hated lunchtime rides because of their implied deadline and the eventual scrambling to meet it. Time is...not really a consideration when I'm riding. The clock doesn't move the same, and you're subject to an entirely different set of muses. Mid-day congestion has me pining for another recession. Some of my best riding memories were from a time when tumbleweeds rolled through Detroit and it wasn't a mass orgy of oblivious self-congratulation. The place is a magnet for fair-weather hucksters who solution things and have titles like change agent. One of these agents tried to change the shape of my skull today, yammering on his cell phone while executing that killer left we've all come to know. It's madness in every direction, and every road that ever made me smile is now home to Wuthering Gables, NOW FROM THE 400s! If you're going to an Indian dealership, you know what they're conjuring. A lot of sepia-toned exceptionalism, breadbasket wonderfulness, daredevils in leather helmets, etc. What I wasn't prepared for was falling for it. Every...last...bit of it. A raging nostalgia boner, as I've seen it described elsewhere in these pages. I have been lusting after the Indian Scout since it first hit CA (THANKS A TON, CLUTCHPUCK). And there it was, in motion, up on a widescreen TV as I walked in, part of a long(er) form promo video that I just stood there and watched. It is, to me, just about perfect. They analyzed what was lacking in the standard/mid-cruiser marketplace and they went for the jugular. I think they have a hit. Then again, my bias is partly genetic--my uncle was pretty much the rider portrayed in their Wall of Death promo. It's obviously a composite, but the similarities are striking. And the Scout was his weapon of choice. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zny8Wdpk9Gk So the sales guy sees the pile of drool on the floor and offers me one of two massive leather chairs and the remote. Then offers me a cup of coffee. Delivers the coffee. And a pat on the back. And now Mike Wolfe from American Pickers is pimping the brand. Now a predictable Burt Munro bit. Now one of the Scout designers is being interviewed and he's welling up..DEAR GOD, JUST TAKE MY CASH PEOPLE. Goons, I realize these are all small, zero cost gestures, but they're alien to me. A visit to a Harley dealership is like a shower at Shawshank. I just...don't ever want to go back there. I nearly plunked down a deposit for the first run of '15 Scouts, but found out the actual bike will be here 9/5 for a demo. I'm a jerk about about fit/finish and extraneous nonsense like faux carburetors. And I want to see what's doing with this 100HP love removal machine. If they hit your town first and you try it out, let me know what you think.
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Aug 8, 2014 07:45
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Marv Hushman posted:this 100HP love removal machine. The Cult is British, please only reference them when referring to Triumphs or Nortons, thank you. 
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Aug 8, 2014 09:47
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I really want a go at a Scout. It's the first cruiser in a while that really appeals to me.
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Aug 8, 2014 18:40
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Crossposting from the general AI chat thread and my beetle thread: So, 1979 CB650 leaves fiancee stranded on the way to work. She says it died mid-intersection, and she rolled it to the side of the road. I show up an hour later, and when I start the bike, it is initially reluctant to run. After popping the gas cap off and switching to reserve (even though it usually gets 110 miles before having to do so, and it has only done 66 since fillup), I get it running well enough to cross the street and fill it with fuel. It takes 3.2 gallons, which is darn close to the reserve point (4.2 gallon tank, .7 gallon reserve), but not quite there. She then calms down, and rides it the one mile or so home. Today, I'm diagnosing the bike. Disconnected/reconnected all electrical connections, made sure fuel tank cap vent is clear (it was). Checked out the oil leak on the exhaust pipe under the shifter lever and discovered that it needs a new shifter seal, but not immediately so. After doing all this, I start the bike up, and it idles just fine. Give it a few revs, seems okay. So, while leaving it idling, I go out to check the mail. As I'm walking back, I notice that I don't hear the motor running. Walk around back, and sure enough, the bike has died, but the electrical system is still running okay. I try to restart it, and it idles, but dies immediately when giving it throttle (in that "brughghghghUGHfwmp" way of dying, like it's out of fuel). After going around and checking fuel flow and spark again (remove tank, see if it flows well. It does), I resign myself to having to take the carburetors off. Taking carburetors off is my least-favorite thing about owning a motorcycle, kind of like how plumbing is my least-favorite thing about home ownership. I take the fuel bowls off, and notice that, along with the inside of the bowls being pristine due to my all-new jets and fuel filter I installed two years ago, that every float is sticking drat near straight up into the air (carbs are upside-down). I try to push the floats back down (up), and they're initially very stiff to move, but they yield without bending the tabs, and they seem to move fine. However, this piques my curiosity, so I push the float hinge pins out with my trusty Skilcraft pen, and attempt to remove the needle/float valves.  All four of them are like this. I did use a little seafoam a few tanks ago (poured the requisite 1/3 of the can into a nearly empty fuel tank, then drove and filled up right after), and I may have poured the remainder of a can of B-12 in there a year or so ago.  Dealer wants $18 per valve. Respecting how a dealer needs to charge a bit to justify carrying a limited-run part for an old vehicle, I immediately hopped onto eBay and purchased four of them, plus springs and gaskets, for $28.
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Aug 9, 2014 00:11
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Never seen anything like that. That's whacky, as n8r would say.
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Aug 9, 2014 00:39
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Drained my coolant, ran some distilled water through the system and refilled/burped it. Old stuff was pretty bad, and I had to scrape/air compressor some crud out of the expansion reservoir. Hopefully it runs a bit cooler at stoplights in the SoCal heat now; I was noticing it spiking pretty high.
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Aug 9, 2014 00:50
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New sparkplugs and battery for the FZ. Speed bleeders for both the FZ and the DRZ. Next stop, brakepads for the FZ.
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Aug 10, 2014 03:46
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New spark plugs, oil change, chain lube, bled the front brakes (thanks for that suggestion, they needed it), adjusted the valves, new shifter. Long day. Friggin' sweet long ride after, too.
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Aug 10, 2014 06:55
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Fitted my new LED indicators. After days spent tracking down non-ridiculously-expensive load resistors, noticed that the indicators I'd bought already had them built in. Ho hum. Now I have to track down a couple of washers to use as spacers for the rear indicators, they're maybe 5mm too close to the number plate and look a bit crap.
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Aug 10, 2014 09:48
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Marxalot posted:New sparkplugs and battery for the FZ. Speed bleeders for both the FZ and the DRZ. Flushed out both bikes with a pint of cheap DOT4. My brake fluid went from "Kidney failure piss brown" to a nice light yellow color. Speed bleeders are loving magical.
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Aug 10, 2014 18:42
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Replaced right clip on yesterday. Old one got bent up in my spill in June. I waited so lonh because the throttle grip took a month to come in. Turns out it's not attached like the left side so I didn't even need one anyways. Feels weird not having a bent clip on anymore. Today on a ride the bolt and spacer that holds the shift lever in place came out and I went to shift, and nothing was there. Went to ORiellys and bought various bolts and washers and some metal tube thing to rig it together. Feels good as new now! Oil next weekend, maybe do fork oil and put the new caps I got on.
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Aug 11, 2014 06:33
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Discovered the shift lever was slightly loose on the shaft and also covered in oil. So I cleaned everything off with kerosene, adjusted the shift lever downwards as I had been meaning to do anyway, and re-tightened it. Feels much better now. I don't think the oil seal on the shift shaft is leaking, it's probably just fling-off from the chain, but I'll keep an eye on it anyway.
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Aug 11, 2014 09:20
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I've got about 200 miles on the DRZ since I replaced the engine, so I decided to do an oil change today. Unfortunately the frame plug is totally stripped (PO again...). I knew I should have replaced it when I did the engine swap, but I put it off and now I can't get the drat thing out, so I will have to buy a new frame plug and find out how to pull the old one. I drained what I could from the crankcase, but it only amounted to four or five ounces total, which worries me. When I filled the bike back up it drank nearly 2 liters. Is it possible that I just couldn't get all of the oil out but was still able to add two liters, or is my bike burning that much oil somehow? I also finally greased the chain. It is amazing how much smoother everything sounds now.
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Aug 11, 2014 09:31
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New choke cable: installed. Old choke cable: sent to the chokey with Mrs. Trunchbull. It's actually an enrichener cable, but I have no pop cult references for this.
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Aug 11, 2014 15:35
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Brought the front back up to stock height. Feels good man.
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Aug 11, 2014 16:44
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Packed up the Bandit, hit the north,  hit some bugs on the way up,  and finally arrived at my destination.    The green area is Algonquin Provincial Park New things I learned: 10,000 RPM in first = 70km/h 25°C with sun is way too hot for perf. leather if there's going to be long passages of crawling traffic. There's a couple of good folks out there towing boats who will move over to let you pass on the winding 2 lane roads that never have proper passing zones.
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Aug 11, 2014 23:08
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I don't know if there's a good gear solution to hot weather. They say you should keep as much wind off you as possible when it's over 93f out. Solid leather sucks too when it's that hot, but at least those bottles of water I dump in it last longer between stops with the vents closed. Don't do no gear unless you like self jerky.
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It seems like some evaporative cooling might work, although it obviously is less effective if you're barely moving. I soak down a neck/bandanna thing with water and put it around my neck. Anywhere you can cool your body's heat sinks (hands, feet, top of the head, carotid artery, femoral artery) would help, I'm sure.
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