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Microsoft pushing S-mode and their app platform before they give devs an easy way to migrate existing codebases written in obj-c is going to yet again doom it to obscurity
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Volguus posted:The benefits of "S Mode" are that it further pushes the ecosystem towards the walled garden Microsoft dreams of (a-la Apple). To users? None, but they'll get "S Mode" for free from OEMs and most likely be charged to switch modes. When enough people will be using S Mode maybe developers will start writing applications for the windows store. If they can survive the backlash of users in the meantime (I'm joking, there won't be any, people will love their OS that cannot run more than 3 applications). Belifore said they won't be charged to change modes on any edition.
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Mar 8, 2018 18:39
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CubanMissile posted:Belifore said they won't be charged to change modes on any edition. For now. Then again maybe never if only 5 people will ever want to change that. The rest will probably be happy with what they've got.
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Mar 8, 2018 18:45
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Volguus posted:For now. Then again maybe never if only 5 people will ever want to change that. The rest will probably be happy with what they've got. I can see some schools using it if it's easier than using Group Policy Editor or whatever, but mostly I think it's Microsoft sort of giving up on Windows S without having to admit that that's what they're doing.
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Mar 8, 2018 19:22
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The main thing I like about Windows 10 is that I can hop between tablet friendly apps and full desktop functionality, I can't really see what S mode achieves that basic group policies don't.
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Mar 8, 2018 20:02
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BangersInMyKnickers posted:Microsoft pushing S-mode and their app platform before they give devs an easy way to migrate existing codebases written in obj-c is going to yet again doom it to obscurity On certain fronts Microsoft has made a lot of progress. Onedrive is actually good, their free email outlook.com accounts are good. The app store and by extension a LOT of the apps still need like 5 years of baking  .
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Mar 8, 2018 22:09
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BangersInMyKnickers posted:I could see it appealing to schools. Windows biggest liability is its ability to run arbitrary code without any appreciable kind of sandboxing or containerization, S solves most of that. You then have to content that you've basically created an iPad at that point so you're going to need to fight with Apple there on price point and features but I can see some kind of market for it. Ah, the good old days of playing Perfect Dark with Project64 on a school computer with an awful mouse and keyboard. I'd say taking that away from kids is a crime but then again even my shithole school had locked down their PCs pretty well by that time (I just found a stash of goodies installed locally) and it's not like kids these days give a gently caress about computers or Nintendo 64 games, so I have to agree, S Mode makes perfect sense for schools. Unfortunately I'm pretty sure most educational software is still from like the 90s or something so that'll likely be a problem.
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Mar 8, 2018 22:12
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Stanley Pain posted:On certain fronts Microsoft has made a lot of progress. Onedrive is actually good, their free email outlook.com accounts are good. The app store and by extension a LOT of the apps still need like 5 years of baking The state of even the built-in Microsoft apps is abysmal. I've moaned about it before but if they want developers to develop top tier apps for the store, Microsoft's should lead by example. It's been 6 years since Windows 8 released. This is the same glacial poo poo that doomed Windows Phone.
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Mar 8, 2018 22:23
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Ruflux posted:Ah, the good old days of playing Perfect Dark with Project64 on a school computer with an awful mouse and keyboard. I'd say taking that away from kids is a crime but then again even my shithole school had locked down their PCs pretty well by that time (I just found a stash of goodies installed locally) and it's not like kids these days give a gently caress about computers or Nintendo 64 games, so I have to agree, S Mode makes perfect sense for schools. Unfortunately I'm pretty sure most educational software is still from like the 90s or something so that'll likely be a problem. RemoteApp stuff and two Remote Desktop Services servers will get all that stuff running without a huge amount of fuss or expense assuming your infrastructure can support it. Even marginally lovely wifi should be able to handle it now that they've optimized the RDP protocols with RemoteFX and h.264 support.
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Mar 8, 2018 22:55
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Gotta love some applications. I'm currently running Chrome, Spotify, Hexchat, Sublime Text, NOD32, Discord and some other random poo poo in background. The global handle count is around 75k. Fire up Creative Cloud (which in turn starts some additional stuff), it bumps up to ~200k. Some background service doing really nothing special creates like x1.6 as much system objects as the rest of whole drat system. When Chrome's Software Reporting Service starts, it goes from 75k to 380k. What the gently caress are these people doing? :|
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Mar 8, 2018 23:35
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At this point, I assume that Adobe CC is just running silently in its own VM for licensing purposes
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Mar 8, 2018 23:49
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https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/windows-10-finally-adding-tabs-to-file-explorer/ About god drat time holy poo poo.
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GreenNight posted:https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/windows-10-finally-adding-tabs-to-file-explorer/ They can pry Norton Commander from my cold, dead hands.
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GreenNight posted:https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/windows-10-finally-adding-tabs-to-file-explorer/
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Mar 9, 2018 05:00
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mystes posted:Great, it looks like at this rate Microsoft is on schedule to add an actual tiling mode some time around the end of the millennium. Which millennium? The 5th or the 11th?
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Mar 9, 2018 05:01
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GreenNight posted:https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/windows-10-finally-adding-tabs-to-file-explorer/
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Mar 9, 2018 17:24
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:The main thing I like about Windows 10 is that I can hop between tablet friendly apps and full desktop functionality, I can't really see what S mode achieves that basic group policies don't. You can't see why it's useful to have a more secure default configuration available without having to understand how enterprise configuration works? REALLY???
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Mar 9, 2018 18:11
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How come shutting down in windows is now more like hibernating? Why does it open stuff before I log in too, like if I shut down my computer at night with a youtube tab open, if I turn my pc on and go make a coffee, I'll come back to a login screen playing whatever dumb poo poo from the night before.
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Mar 9, 2018 23:56
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underage at the vape shop posted:How come shutting down in windows is now more like hibernating? Why does it open stuff before I log in too, like if I shut down my computer at night with a youtube tab open, if I turn my pc on and go make a coffee, I'll come back to a login screen playing whatever dumb poo poo from the night before. OSX is the same, shut all applications down, or it thinks you want to continue where you left off
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underage at the vape shop posted:How come shutting down in windows is now more like hibernating? Why does it open stuff before I log in too, like if I shut down my computer at night with a youtube tab open, if I turn my pc on and go make a coffee, I'll come back to a login screen playing whatever dumb poo poo from the night before. https://www.windowscentral.com/how-disable-windows-10-fast-startup
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Mar 10, 2018 00:33
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My biggest complaint on reboot is that stuff that gets opened and minimized to the taskbar steak my focus, and since I’m impatient there’s been a lot of times where I’d open Firefox and start typing in a url and then something opens and minimizes and steals the focus so I can’t finish typing the url. Is there a way to systematically disable everything from being able to steal the focus (or whatever it’s called) period, unless i actually explicitly double clicked on it?
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Mar 10, 2018 10:06
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Boris Galerkin posted:Is there a way to systematically disable everything from being able to steal the focus (or whatever it’s called) period, unless i actually explicitly double clicked on it? If you find this, for any modern OS, I'll be the happiest person in the world. Nothing annoys me more than focus stealing, I do not know why it's a thing at all. An application should be able to push focus around within itself, and even to other apps, but I can't come up with any good reasons why an app that's not in focus should ever be allowed to steal it.
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Mar 10, 2018 20:34
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Does the insider version have a one-page ebook viewing mode yet instead of forcing books to split into two pages? If not, please thumbs-up this feedback someone submitted to add a one-page viewing mode to edge for ebooks: https://insider.windows.com/en-us/fb/?contextid=455&feedbackid=f9312987-4de7-4a8a-8ec7-8c38206e8208&form=1
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Mar 10, 2018 20:37
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wolrah posted:If you find this, for any modern OS, I'll be the happiest person in the world. I'd like to know if it's straightforward to do. Some gooncoder must know. #ibelieveingoons
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Mar 11, 2018 04:02
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Focus Stealing has been around since Windows 95 and it is never going away.
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Mar 11, 2018 04:40
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Boris Galerkin posted:My biggest complaint on reboot is that stuff that gets opened and minimized to the taskbar steak my focus, and since I’m impatient there’s been a lot of times where I’d open Firefox and start typing in a url and then something opens and minimizes and steals the focus so I can’t finish typing the url. Have you already looked at disabling some of the programs that want to start up with your computer?
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Mar 11, 2018 05:30
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Startup Delayer may be of some use. It takes some trial and error, but it's possible to control what launches when right down to the second, and you can be strategic about it. As an example, I have it set so that there's a few seconds before anything will steal focus from Launchy. It also can make startup really smooth when you tune it just right. It just seems more efficient when the whole cpu can be launching this thing, then that thing, and so on.
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Mar 11, 2018 06:25
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No I already have just exactly the bare minimum of what I want to start up. Having them delayed in starting up won’t do anything because then it’s just gonna steal the focus away from firefox at a later time. I want to disable focus stealing period. I can understand that if I explicitly open Firefox then it should take the focus, but random startup app that opens and minimizes should not be able to do that.
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Mar 11, 2018 09:33
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For the most part Microsoft has cracked down on focus stealing and there's way less of that than there was back in the XP days. I think the only things that still steals focus tends to be stuff running with admin privileges.
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Mar 11, 2018 09:41
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Boris Galerkin posted:I want to disable focus stealing period. Oh same here, of course. I was just suggesting it as a partial workaround of sorts.
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Mar 11, 2018 10:31
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What's the real difference between Reset this PC and plain reinstall with install media?
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Mar 11, 2018 16:59
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Hmm, what about setting the focus stealers to be the absolute first things to load, to get them out of the way?
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Mar 11, 2018 20:28
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Sininu posted:What's the real difference between Reset this PC and plain reinstall with install media?
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How do you adjust the volume of the notification chime? I don't mind some apps sending notifications but the sound is really loud and adjusting system sound volume in the volume mixer did not seem to help at all.
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So I'm finally upgrading my normal workstations from W7 to W10. And it's going pretty smoothly. The thing that's killing me right now is waking them from sleep. Previously on Windows7, they would go to sleep after 30 minutes, and if I used RDP from my iOS or RDP from my MacOS laptop, they would pop out of sleep and let me remote into them. All the machines I've had on Windows7 did this without much fuss. But I've been digging and flipping settings everywhere for the last hour and I can't for the life of me get this feature to work in Windows10. My BIOS settings are good. They worked for Windows7, why would I need to change any BIOS settings for Windows10? I've tried disabling 'fast startup' I've tried old Windows7 drivers downloaded from the MOBO website and 'new' drivers from Windows Update. And the drivers straight from Intel which are the newest. I've tried all the different advanced driver settings in the NIC relating to Power/WakeOnLAN. I've tried all the settings in the driver power management tab on the NIC. What's the trick here? There are lots of people complaining after the Creators Update. And there don't seem to be many clear answers to this. To re-iterate, I want the computers to sleep when inactive, but have them wake when I RDP into them. (Which is exactly what they did before in Windows7) Ziploc fucked around with this message at 07:05 on Mar 12, 2018 |
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Mar 12, 2018 06:28
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Does Media Creation Tool download the latest W10 build (Fall creatures update)? Also, I got Windows 10 Pro, but creation tool had no options about editions. Are the installers all in one now?
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Sininu posted:Does Media Creation Tool download the latest W10 build (Fall creatures update)? Also, I got Windows 10 Pro, but creation tool had no options about editions. Are the installers all in one now? Yes and yes.
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Ziploc posted:So I'm finally upgrading my normal workstations from W7 to W10. And it's going pretty smoothly. Are you sure this was actually occurring? Microsoft Remote Desktop has never had the ability to send magic packets to wake computers from S1-4 sleep. I know that some network cards can be set to wake up a PC if they receive pattern-matched traffic, but this usually ends up being a bad option because anything that broadcasts to the entire subnet can also wake up your computer. Check device manager -> your network card -> properties and see if you can change the WoL from magic packet to pattern match. This mah get you what you want, but probably will also have your computer wake up randomly at other times of day. bobfather fucked around with this message at 14:37 on Mar 12, 2018 |
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Mar 12, 2018 14:34
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Is there any good "reminder" app for Windows 10 that will let you set a date and time for a notification to come up, and if your computer's off at that time it will come up the next time it's on?
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The calendar app should do it.
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