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Lycus posted:Putin. Putin looks grey on the key. Is china grey because of blocked sites then? Also who the hell is John Green and why is his fanbase in Bhutan it looks like?
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Frostwerks posted:Putin looks grey on the key. Is china grey because of blocked sites then? I'm not sure why he lights up in Bhutan, but if I had to guess I'd just say it's a small sample issue. Only 25% of Bhutanese apparently even have Internet access, and who knows how many of them are even on Facebook.
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Apr 26, 2014 04:58
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Putin is clearly lavender on the key  and John Green also does all the Crash Course history/whatever stuff which is pretty famous too, and a movie adaptation of one of his novels is like just about to be released. I dunno about putting him on the top 100 list but it's not like he isn't noteworthy.
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Apr 26, 2014 05:21
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Frostwerks posted:Putin looks grey on the key. Is china grey because of blocked sites then? The data come from Facebook and Facebook is blocked in China
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Apr 26, 2014 05:27
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Emanuel Collective posted:What does this mean when a state's citizens say they dislike their state? Do Illinoisians hate Chicago? Lake Michigan? Springfield? Or does it mean they hate, say, their state's government? The poll isn't asking if people like their state, it's asking if they think it's one of the best possible to live in. I remember seeing polls like this quite a few times over the years (I can only find this one, and only through the Wayback machine) showing that despite thinking life is pretty terrible and such people in Michigan overwhelmingly love it anyway. https://web.archive.org/web/20060720055947/http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060717/NEWS06/607170359 CaptBushido posted:I think urban environments are just extremely disillusioning. I mean take Maryland, too. It's extremely economically high-performing and has quickly become one of the most politically progressive states in the country. You'd think those would be reasons to at least keep it out of the "we loving suck" range, but that's just simply not gonna happen in a highly urbanized state. I don't know about that, in my experience the only difference in that regard between city dwellers and rural people are that city dwellers' regional pride is based around their city rather than their state.
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Apr 26, 2014 06:49
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Koramei posted:Putin is clearly lavender on the key Sure, but it doesn't in the key.
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Apr 26, 2014 09:02
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Ahh. I know why it looks weird now. My seat is really high up and when you're looking at it at a downward angle, it does indeed look grey. when it is eye level though, it does appear lavender. Still, that map has lovely colors. My point persists.
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Apr 26, 2014 09:09
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Frostwerks posted:Ahh. I know why it looks weird now. My seat is really high up and when you're looking at it at a downward angle, it does indeed look grey. when it is eye level though, it does appear lavender. Still, that map has lovely colors. My point persists. On the other hand, what would you do in this case? You need to find 15 distinct colors. Which colors would you change, and what are the alternatives? I think they already used the best ones, although I don't quite understand why they use straight red for the guy who excited only Taiwan for example.
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Apr 26, 2014 09:35
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Peanut President posted:Illinois sent troops to fight for the Confederacy, Indiana repelled confederate raiding parties. Hahahaha. Indiana was pretty much the center of KKK political activity in the 1920s and 30s. Indiana is a shithole.
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Apr 26, 2014 15:36
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Action-Man posted:Hahahaha. Indiana was pretty much the center of KKK political activity in the 1920s and 30s. Indiana is a shithole. Sounds like someone is from Illinois. 
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Apr 26, 2014 15:37
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Remember those "Lincoln Boyhood Home" license plates Indiana used to have? Gotta latch onto something that isn't college-sports related! 
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Apr 26, 2014 16:14
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 UN General Assembly vote affirming the territorial integrity of Ukraine, and not recognizing the referendum in Crimea. Green: For Red: Against Yellow: Abstain Blue: Absent for vote  Countries that recognize Crimea as being part of Russia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_status_of_Crimea Thoughts: Why the hell does Afghanistan side with Russia in this? Kazakhstan abstaining is pretty surprising, they are extremely close to Russia.
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Apr 26, 2014 17:52
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Karzai has been spouting anti-American rhetoric for a while, now.
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Apr 26, 2014 17:57
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Count Roland posted:Why the hell does Afghanistan side with Russia in this? Because having friendly relations with Russia will be important when the US leaves?
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Apr 26, 2014 18:02
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I didn't know Sudan was aligned with Russia in this case.
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Apr 26, 2014 18:04
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Lord Tywin posted:Because having friendly relations with Russia will be important when the US leaves? Maybe? If you think this is the case I'd be interested to know why. In my mind Afghanistan is basically destined to be under Pakistani control, except for Herat which is under Iranian influence. The US, Russia, India and maybe China will all play a role too but they're, in my mind, simply too far away to have as much influence.
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Apr 26, 2014 18:07
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computer parts posted:I didn't know Sudan was aligned with Russia in this case. I think Sudan might feel the need for some annexing in the near future.
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Apr 26, 2014 18:08
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Count Roland posted:Maybe? If you think this is the case I'd be interested to know why. Russia is pretty close and they have always been a big player in the region.
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Apr 26, 2014 18:19
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Count Roland posted:
badguys.jpg (plus Armenia, who voted this way because they probably want to do the same to Nagorno-Karabakh)
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Apr 26, 2014 18:24
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Russia has a bunch of military facilities in neighboring Tajikistan, I imagine they could provide assistance in the event of a crisis.
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Apr 26, 2014 18:31
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Count Roland posted:Maybe? If you think this is the case I'd be interested to know why. That's far from certain. India is pouring money into Afghanistan, and it's buying them a lot of influence. Naturally this scares the poo poo out of Pakistan, hence their ongoing support for the Taliban, even though that's starting to have serious repercussions inside Pakistan itself. Ultimately India has far more weight to throw around, and I suspect they'll come out on top in Afghanistan. Russia remains a player as well.
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Apr 26, 2014 18:53
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cafel posted:Christ, is Rhode Island some kind of shithole hellscape and I never knew about it? Outside of Newport and downtown Providence, yes. CaptBushido posted:Personally I don't think any state can realistically claim to be the "best" except for maybe Vermont or Hawaii. Someone's never been to Montana, which belongs exactly where it is 
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Apr 26, 2014 19:07
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 Each colour holds a billion people. Without that chunk of the Ganges and Pakistan purple would probably not have nearly enough I think?
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Apr 26, 2014 19:26
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Count Roland posted:Kazakhstan abstaining is pretty surprising, they are extremely close to Russia. 
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Apr 26, 2014 19:28
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PittTheElder posted:That's far from certain. India is pouring money into Afghanistan, and it's buying them a lot of influence. Naturally this scares the poo poo out of Pakistan, hence their ongoing support for the Taliban, even though that's starting to have serious repercussions inside Pakistan itself. I know India has been investing a lot of money, but that will only drive Pakistan to be all the more aggressive. Their backing/creation of the Taliban was basically a hedge against Indian influence. Pakistan will do just about anything to keep Afghanistan out of Indian hands. Russia has been a long-time supporter of the Northern Alliance, but I haven't heard anything about them in Afghanistan since 2001. And haven't they mostly pulled out of Tajikistan now? fake edit: I guess not. quote:(Reuters) - Tajikistan's parliament ratified a deal with Russia on Tuesday to extend by three decades Moscow's military presence in the volatile Central Asian nation, which may face new security threats after NATO troops leave neighbouring Afghanistan. Yeah, so Russia has more influence there than I would have thought. HBar posted:Yeah, why would they have any conflicting feelings about this? If they were conflicted, I'd expect them to go along with Russia out of fear. Kazakhstan has no powerful friends to help them if Russia wants to cut up some territory.
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Count Roland posted:If they were conflicted, I'd expect them to go along with Russia out of fear. Kazakhstan has no powerful friends to help them if Russia wants to cut up some territory.
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Golbez posted:badguys.jpg It seems like most of those countries have chunks of neighboring countries they would like to annex. Armenia wants Nagorno-Karabakh:  Sudan wants Abyei (which while part of Sudanese borders, voted to join South Sudan and is disputed territory):  Venezuela wants Guyana Esequiba:  Nicaragua wants Calero Island:  North Korea, of course, wants the rest of the peninsula:  Bolivia wants their coastline back:  Uganda wants Migingo Island:  Syria wants Hatay and Golan Heights:  As a bonus, I find it funny that even the United Korea flag used at the Olympics has the Dokdo Islands on them: 
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Apr 26, 2014 20:32
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HorseRenoir posted:North Korea, of course, wants the rest of the peninsula: This map makes me want to see what a world map produced in North Korea would look like. Shame that I'll never find out; I'm sure that it'd have some dumb things on it...
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Apr 26, 2014 20:42
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Are you guys sure that's a North Korean map? 대한민국 is the name for South Korea.
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Koramei posted:
That western part of China includes Tibet, which is not densely populated, and it includes Siberia (the same). Kazakhstan and Mongolia also don't have too many people, I think you are right that these parts are essential in reaching 1 billion.
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Apr 26, 2014 20:52
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HorseRenoir posted:Nicaragua wants Calero Island: I'm not sure I'd ascribe much significance to these. Isla Calero and Migingo Island are tiny and have very little population and aren't really comparable to Crimea. There are dozens of territorial disputes of the same caliber or greater around the world, involving countries with much more at stake than Uganda or Nicaragua which don't support Russia. I'll admit I don't know much about the politics of modern Uganda or Nicaragua, but I'd guess their position has more to do with their relationships with Russia and the US than with justifying a land grab they could make in the future.
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Apr 26, 2014 20:59
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Koramei posted:Are you guys sure that's a North Korean map? 대한민국 is the name for South Korea. It's not, I'd just imagine an official North Korean map would probably be similar.
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Torrannor posted:That western part of China includes Tibet, which is not densely populated, and it includes Siberia (the same). Kazakhstan and Mongolia also don't have too many people, I think you are right that these parts are essential in reaching 1 billion. Mongolia is apparently just over the same population density as Alaska. Kazakhstan is just under Wyoming's population density. e: Combined the two nations have about 20 million people, which is about the size of Beijing.
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Armenia has been building an exceptionally strong relationship with Russia, recently refused to open an Association Agreement with the EU to ensure smooth sailing in creating Customs Union with the RF, and the ruling elites in these two countries have been having a honeymoon for like the past two years. In short, Armenia is Russia's main ally in the Caucasus, and I believe the issue of the Nogorno Karabakh (which is already solved in a way beneficial to Armenia) plays a very marginal role in their voting. The other dissenting votes are, I think, also caused by other factors than intended expansion, first because there's no reason for a country to signal aggressive intentions through voting in the UN (you can't justify expansionism within the UN framework no matter what you vote for - and if you really want to redraw your borders, you don't need the UN), second because the portrayed territorial disputes are in reality either long dead, accepted by the current leadership, or quite impossible to act upon.
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A Buttery Pastry posted:China is a powerful friend, and their relationship is deepening. China's basically trying to move all of Central Asia into their orbit, from what I can tell, as a way to access resources and to connect to Europe. Most of what I read indicates that China's influence in central asia as a region is fairly small and growing only slowly. My impression is that Russia is the primary outside power in the region (by region I mean Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Kyrgestan, Tajikistan and Turkmenistan), followed by the US (largely as a spin-off of their Afghan adventure). Iran and Turkey are on the list for soft power. China definitely wants dem resources, but I think they've got a ways to go before they can rival other great powers in the region. But, since China is right there, their influence is only going to grow.
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steinrokkan posted:The other dissenting votes are, I think, also caused by other factors than intended expansion, first because there's no reason for a country to signal aggressive intentions through voting in the UN (you can't justify expansionism within the UN framework no matter what you vote for - and if you really want to redraw your borders, you don't need the UN), second because the portrayed territorial disputes are in reality either long dead, accepted by the current leadership, or quite impossible to act upon. Yeah. If the votes were solely about expanding their territory, Israel would be all over that, but they didn't even show up to vote.
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Apr 26, 2014 21:22
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HorseRenoir posted:Syria wants Hatay and Golan Heights: Hatay maybe, but Golan Heights is actually an internationally recognized part of Syria. Israel straight up took it in a war of conquest and nobody else, not even the US, recognizes the validity of them owning that land.
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There's a certain amount of irony in Israel conquering land for lebensraum.
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Pakled posted:I'll admit I don't know much about the politics of modern Uganda or Nicaragua, but I'd guess their position has more to do with their relationships with Russia and the US than with justifying a land grab they could make in the future. Uganda's vote is very much meant as punishment to the US and is part of the backlash created by Obama's condemnation of the Ugandan Anti-Homosexuality bill, Museveni (who has always been a strategically important ally for the US) made statements after Obama's condemnation that Uganda would develop closer ties with Russia as "they don’t mix up their politics with our politics, they just do what we agree on". Uganda already has a pretty healthy relationship with Russia (especially when it comes to defence procurement) and with the west continuing to threaten to pull aid over the Anti-Homosexuality bill Museveni is looking towards Russia to plug the gaps.
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