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Minenfeld! posted:The despair is real everyday. We all feel it. I don't know. Perusing the Trump thread they like to make fun of people who express these sentiments. It's not me I'm worried about. It's my son. He's 6. I'm no history expert but this looks like at least the the middle part of full stage fascism and certainly end stage capitalism to me. Reflected in our "free" press, naturally, which is driven totally by corporate advertising, to say nothing of our elected representatives and their pundits. I think my fear is justified but could be I'm just getting old. Thanks for not making GBS threads on me and calling me a whiner at least. RasperFat posted:Our media has been pretty tepid in its reporting, but bits and pieces have been coming out showing that the entire RNC has been compromised by foreign interests. It’s not all scandalous piss tapes and blackmail, but foreign nationals have been greasing up the GOP for a while. Fantastic post. Nice to know some people are paying attention. You really nailed a lot of salient points with more brevity than I can usually manage. BiggerBoat fucked around with this message at 02:14 on Jan 26, 2018 |
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BiggerBoat posted:I don't know. That's an absurdly optimistic view of economics.
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RasperFat posted:Our media has been pretty tepid in its reporting, but bits and pieces have been coming out showing that the entire RNC has been compromised by foreign interests. It’s not all scandalous piss tapes and blackmail, but foreign nationals have been greasing up the GOP for a while. fantastic post. my belief is the GOP got infested during the obama admin. i remember tons of stories of hard right evangelicals happily going to bed with russia because "it was true christian/white country". i am sure it spread from there.
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Trump still has those weird money laundering skeletons in his closet, with the florida properties and the mobsters in new york. I don't think that's true for other republicans.
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TheDeadlyShoe posted:Trump still has those weird money laundering skeletons in his closet, with the florida properties and the mobsters in new york. I don't think that's true for other republicans. it's all the same type of grift.
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Jan 26, 2018 06:38
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Jan 26, 2018 08:15
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Coast 2 Coast with George Nory decided to go full on tax policy tonight. With a man arguing for abolishment of all taxes except for Sales Tax. No conspiracy theories. No deep state. It was loving surreal.
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BiggerBoat posted:I don't know. I work with at-risk kids and for the past year, I've heard the teenaged boys I work with excuse all manner of horrible behaviours as perfectly ok because President Trump did it and got to be president. The extent to which a significant portion of the American population (and honestly, a lot of conservatives abroad as well) is willing to ignore or excuse his antics and tantrums does more than just enable him; it sets an awful standard for kids that are growing up and watching it happen. I know that it's always in vogue for older people to bitch and moan about kids these days are ignorant and don't pay attention, but the reality is that they most certainly do and they definitely pick up on cues from people they choose to emulate. Injustice has existed long before Trump, but I don't think it's been quite this shameless or crass in a long time.
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I used to teach and still have a bunch of friends and family who do. They ahve so many stories about kids in MAGA hats and repeating Trump stuff and justifying they're bad behavior by Trump. It seems like an ethical horrorshow. I could never work in elementary schools today because I would never be able to resist sounding off. It's one thing to bite your tongue around an adult coworker or neighbor or family member. It's another to be responsible for educating kids and not talking about what a racist, fascist, misogynistic, immoral wave of history we're in. I don't think the world is ending or democracy is dead or anything like that. But there's undeniably a tone and fight here and not only adults being affected but kids are probably being warped. Thankfully most of them won't be rich enough to get away with poo poo like Trump does and there's plenty of cultural push back like BLM and MeToo. STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 10:38 on Jan 26, 2018 |
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Fearless posted:I work with at-risk kids and for the past year, I've heard the teenaged boys I work with excuse all manner of horrible behaviours as perfectly ok because President Trump did it and got to be president. This is one of the insidious problems with the right wing hero worship and hypocrisy. Their leaders are almost exclusively pieces of poo poo, and their kids emulate their lovely behavior. It happened with Bush II as well. There was definitely a spike of teenage evangelicals who jumped on the homophobe train because Bush was endorsing it and was president, so it must be the right thing to do. He also got a bunch of kids (and adults) to hate Muslim people. It’s weird to me that when I was a little kid they were just a neutral group. Sometimes they would be the bad guy terrorists in movies or whatever, but less than Russian/Eastern European guys were. Sometimes they were even the good guys (Rambo III). Bush transformed a meh situation into the seething hatred and disgust that modern Republicans have for all Arabic people, even if their Sikh or Christian or whatever. I think our saving grace with Trump is that most young people think he’s a blowhard idiot. He doesn’t have that veneer of respectability the previous R presidents had. He’s probably going to make the problem kids and brainwashed evangelicals much worse, but hopefully his unpopularity will stop too many kids from emulating him. As a side note this topic reminds of me Pickle, whose parents completely dropped their responsibilities for. He was like 9 and didn’t know any better. They should have not let him sent Trump fanmail in the first place, and especially not let him become a propaganda piece for Trump. That kid is probably going to be haunted by that letter for the rest of his life.
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Just totally face palming at people actually believing that 2 members of the FBI are members of a secret society, carrying out their clandestine nefarious schemes on their loving government issued cell phones. Jesus Christ.
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it's more dumb because they literally say "secret society". it couldn't be more obviously sarcastic.
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BiggerBoat posted:Just totally face palming at people actually believing that 2 members of the FBI are members of a secret society, carrying out their clandestine nefarious schemes on their loving government issued cell phones. Realistically, that's the least unbelievable part; people in government doing relentlessly stupid poo poo and then leaving evidence on public devices is disconcertingly common. It's still a loving stupid accusation, though.
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BiggerBoat posted:Just totally face palming at people actually believing that 2 members of the FBI are members of a secret society, carrying out their clandestine nefarious schemes on their loving government issued cell phones. Trump and co believe that people would do this because they are in fact this stupid, as they have proven time and time again.
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BiggerBoat posted:Just totally face palming at people actually believing that 2 members of the FBI are members of a secret society, carrying out their clandestine nefarious schemes on their loving government issued cell phones. "They're so brazen, they don't even try to hide it!" E: does this secret society have a name or is it literally 2 FBI people. How many members do you need to become a secret society? Two sounds like a secret duo. How many is a cabal? Being in a cabal sounds badass.
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PJOmega posted:Coast 2 Coast with George Nory decided to go full on tax policy tonight. With a man arguing for abolishment of all taxes except for Sales Tax. Conservatives loving love sales tax since poorer people pay more of it.
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crime fighting hog posted:"They're so brazen, they don't even try to hide it!" at least 5 to a cabal Wikipedia posted:The term took on its present meaning from a group of ministers of King Charles II of England (Sir Thomas Clifford, Lord Arlington, the Duke of Buckingham, Lord Ashley, and Lord Lauderdale), whose initial letters coincidentally spelled CABAL, and who were the signatories of the Secret Treaty of Dover that allied England to France in a prospective war against the Netherlands.
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Lycus posted:Conservatives loving love sales tax since poorer people pay more of it. Sales tax goes hand in hand with toll roads to the conservative brain. Basically they hate income taxes because they don't think any of it comes back to them, but used based taxes are A-OK because they only pay for what they're using.
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Lycus posted:Conservatives loving love sales tax since poorer people pay more of it. Oh I know. It was simply weird to hear C2C having a whole segment on something so blatantly RWM. Normally it's at least hidden in conspiracy theories about deep state agents.
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Jazerus posted:at least 5 to a cabal That sounds like a level of secrecy this administration can't even ken.
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I feel like the last few days Hannity has just been playing a pre-recorded talk about Hillary's emails and goes off for an e-cig break or something because the last few days he's been saying the exact same thing over and over again. I've been hearing more Rush lately due to my work schedule though. I heard a woman a while back say that Rush was the second most wonderful man she knew, after her husband. How did she go through life only knowing two men? Anyway the last thing I remember from him was talking about Trump's enormous unpopularity with 18-24 year olds (including conservatives) and his theory on why this was. Basically he said that when he grew up there were no conservative media outlets, but these kids grew up with him and Fox News and the internet and there's larger support for young conservatives, and an infrastructure that existed to help strengthen their conservative beliefs. However I guess it was too successful and now younger conservatives want politicians who do things like have morals and principles, or even do crazy things like actually hold conservative beliefs. But Rush says those people are young and dumb and weren't alive when liberals destroyed society and the concept of morality so they don't know how bad it's gotten, they think the current climate is totally normal and fine, but "us older folks" don't care about purity and just want someone who will attack liberals and hit them back like liberals hit them. It was just kind of fascinating to hear Rush basically say "We don't actually care about the things we say we care about, they're all a facade."
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So I finally saw the video that made Jordan Peterson a philosopher-king on the Right, and it's....unbelievably unimpressive to say the least. It's a 13 minute long video of him "taking down" some "SJW" trans students, but the thing is, during that 13 minutes, he barely says much at all. It's mostly the students making the arguments with him insisting they're wrong (without proving how) or him just rolling his eyes. Hell, at one point the guy didn't even seem to realize that the main focus of the bill he was so vehemently against was about protecting civil rights of transgender people for things like violence and being fired or deprived of housing and that stuff. He seemed legitimately befuddled when it was pointed out to him. I mean, I've seen this lunatic in interviews where I could see how he could give the impression that he knows what he's saying, but that particular video was not one of them.
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Twelve by Pies posted:I feel like the last few days Hannity has just been playing a pre-recorded talk about Hillary's emails and goes off for an e-cig break or something because the last few days he's been saying the exact same thing over and over again. Conservatives have never cared about the things they profess to. Their “moral majority” bullshit has been an obvious scam from the start. Gingrich was/is a leading voice for conservative morality, and that scumbag divorced is wife on her loving deathbed to get a hot new piece of rear end. Hastert was a literal child molester. Bush II had a huge coke habit back in his college days. Bush I is/was a serial groper. Reagan was up to his eyeballs in straight up treason and drug running. Now we have Trump, also a serial sexual assaulter who cheats on his wife with porn stars. They haven’t cared for decades, if they ever did actually care. The whole purpose of their moralizing screeching is to slander anyone to their left, not actual criticism. Rush himself is (incredibly likely to be) a sex tourist. He was caught coming back from a country known for its child prostitution with a sack full of illegal boner pills.
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Oh I've known for ages the right doesn't actually give a poo poo about morality (except to use as a club to beat people they don't like, such as gays), but it's very rare that one of them will all but say it outright like Rush did. Most of them at least pretend they care about those things, so Rush practically saying "Actually we don't care about those things at all" is interesting to me.
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Twelve by Pies posted:Oh I've known for ages the right doesn't actually give a poo poo about morality (except to use as a club to beat people they don't like, such as gays), but it's very rare that one of them will all but say it outright like Rush did. Most of them at least pretend they care about those things, so Rush practically saying "Actually we don't care about those things at all" is interesting to me. The really objectionable thing about the the type of people who want to declare what is and is not moral, is how poorly they understand the concept of morality, and how amoral many of them actually are. It's really easy to be moral. People bemoan how hard it is to live a moral life, but it's really not. You get to pick your morals. All you have to do is stick to the guiding principles you yourself selected. If you think child molesters are disgusting demons who deserve to rot in hell, don't vote one into public office. It's that simple. If you think civil and even criminal disobedience to the government are sometimes necessary evils that people must commit in order to shape the world around them, then don't cheer when white ranchers set up an armed blockade on a major interstate highway, but then call for people to run over black protesters for sitting in the street. If you don't actually believe those things, then pick other issues to build your morality around. If you slip occasionally, well, you're human, but if literally every rule you claim to live by is discarded when it's inconvenient to you, but enforced against others, you are amoral. I think the "moral" right fails as hard or harder at this than any other group I know.
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Twelve by Pies posted:I feel like the last few days Hannity has just been playing a pre-recorded talk about Hillary's emails and goes off for an e-cig break or something because the last few days he's been saying the exact same thing over and over again. Weeks Lycus posted:Hannity did a segment about the attempted firing of Mueller like he implied he would, right? ... Well, he did this: https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2018/01/26/hannity-nyt-report-trump-mueller-orig-vstan-bk.cnn BiggerBoat fucked around with this message at 12:46 on Jan 27, 2018 |
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that's almost certainly what happened. https://twitter.com/cushbomb/status/957305878180519936
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Groovelord Neato posted:that's almost certainly what happened. I clicked on it. This is really loving pathetic. Nothing else even needs to be said about it. It's just pathetic.
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Groovelord Neato posted:that's almost certainly what happened. i clicked and i dont understand any of it? did hannity ban himself?
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BiggerBoat posted:Most of us, yes, especially people who post here. Of course. It all seems patently obvious. I hear you brother, and I have the same concerns and it is not even just the South and Midwest. My father, a well-adjusted New Englander with a good office job, fell to RWM after a steady diet of conservative radio on the commute and FOX News at home. Mercifully, he passed of cancer before the rise of Trump and the Alt-Right. Blue-staters need to look around because this is not even the "red corners of the blue states", we are talking suburbanites who grew up on The Beatles and James Taylor turning around and identifying as flag-waving, country-music-loving red-necks. RW propaganda is real and it is winning.
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Paolomania posted:I hear you brother, and I have the same concerns and it is not even just the South and Midwest. My father, a well-adjusted New Englander with a good office job, fell to RWM after a steady diet of conservative radio on the commute and FOX News at home. Mercifully, he passed of cancer before the rise of Trump and the Alt-Right. This is why we really need Trump to go down in flames. Video of him and his cronies being frog marched out of the Mar a Lago, followed by a very public and very damning trial surpassing the OJ trial fervor of the 90s, would be able to shake a lot of the Republican crowd that hasn’t gone full MAGA. We would then be left with a more manageable group of crazies when the amount of lying and propaganda from the RWM is exposed in an unignorable way. It’s still a long shot, but if Trump stays in office even as a lame duck all the way until 2020 we will lose 10s of millions of people to their brainwashing, probably permanently. It would ironically make us look more stable to have the president jailed than let his idiot temper tantrums keep breaking and dividing everything for a full extra two years.
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RasperFat posted:We would then be left with a more manageable group of crazies when the amount of lying and propaganda from the RWM is exposed in an unignorable way.
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