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FulsomFrank posted:Is it observation bias or is SM doing something different than every other company with regard to supply chains? Why is it always them that seems to have distribution issues. Is it over-promising and under-delivering? I get that they aren't part of the Asmodee behemoth but how do snafus involving distribution happen so frequently with them? I'm not even trying to be snarky here, just in case the tone of my post isn't conveyed well, I'm just genuinely curious. Probably bias. I've had experience with numerous games not being fulfilled at a store I ordered them at, them getting only a couple copies when they were supposed to get a dozen, and so forth. I think the thing with Stonemaier is that its much more transparent so you actually see it happen at the publisher level, not just in the store.
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Mayveena posted:Board game distribution is in a huge state of flux right now, probably attributable to Kickstarter's success. They need publishers more than publishers may need them. Especially Stonemaier. They don't want to do what he says, he goes back to KS. They know it and he knows it. Thing is he's burning that bridge now. Alliance loses nothing at this point by dropping him since he's already direct-marketing. That seems very bad for Jamey, since no matter how successful Wingspan can be in the future I doubt he's got enough war chest to weather more than a single dud. Isn't that the point of the distributor system? They take the risk of inventory in exchange for their inch of the green. Stonemeier seems to have a pretty good record so far but they are by no means a behemoth.
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Casnorf posted:Thing is he's burning that bridge now. Alliance loses nothing at this point by dropping him since he's already direct-marketing. That seems very bad for Jamey, since no matter how successful Wingspan can be in the future I doubt he's got enough war chest to weather more than a single dud. Isn't that the point of the distributor system? They take the risk of inventory in exchange for their inch of the green. Stonemeier seems to have a pretty good record so far but they are by no means a behemoth. Another dud? Stonemeier is firing all blanks, its just his fans don't care.
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Casnorf posted:Thing is he's burning that bridge now. Alliance loses nothing at this point by dropping him since he's already direct-marketing. That seems very bad for Jamey, since no matter how successful Wingspan can be in the future I doubt he's got enough war chest to weather more than a single dud. Isn't that the point of the distributor system? They take the risk of inventory in exchange for their inch of the green. Stonemeier seems to have a pretty good record so far but they are by no means a behemoth. Why would you think he's not got enough money?? Geezus his games sell like hot cakes. No, we don't like them, but that's irrelevant to him, others buy them and love them. Our bubble here is exactly that, a bubble .I appreciate our bubble but do not fool yourself into thinking that the way this thread thinks represents the entire hobby or even the Euro part.
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He said Wingspan has 300,000 copies in print. If anything happens to SM games it won’t be due to lack of sales.
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Miniature Market has a board game sale going on. https://www.miniaturemarket.com/searchresults?tag=board-game-sale-february-2020 I grabbed Via Nebula, not sure what else is good there.
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apparently Downfall of Pompei is back in print there. I remember hearing something about it here, maybe from Chill, but I forgot exactly what.
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Shadow225 posted:apparently Downfall of Pompei is back in print there. I remember hearing something about it here, maybe from Chill, but I forgot exactly what. Yeah it's a great filler game. People get excited to toss people into the volcano.  I gave mine to a friend and he brings it often so I'm not missing it.
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Mayveena posted:Why would you think he's not got enough money?? Geezus his games sell like hot cakes. I apologize, I seem to have given the impression that I was talking about anything other than the business end of things. I don't particularly care deeply about whether a given game is good or bad, but if Jamey thinks he can do no wrong and overinvests in something that doesn't sell (ie a dud) it would be very valuable to him to not have burned his distribution bridges. I know of very few developers or even publishers who aren't that close to the line. Wingspan is a real hit, and he's exploiting its success to strong-arm the existing systems, which I would normally praise except that I don't think he's thought it all the way through while making long posts blaming anything but his own greed on people's inability to give him more money.
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Funzo posted:Miniature Market has a board game sale going on. A goodly choice. The other highlights are Ethnos, Otys is worth a punt at $14, and The Colonists.
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If you like playing extremely long city builders where you do a ton of logistical bookkeeping I really can't recommend the colonists enough.
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Impermanent posted:If you like playing extremely long city builders where you do a ton of logistical bookkeeping I really can't recommend the colonists enough. Era 5-8 Expansion when, cowards 
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poo poo, I was hearing up to play Pipeline, Caylus 1303, Wavelength, and some Pax Pamir 2nd Ed this weekend but the trains between my city and my friends' are shut down due to protests 
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Morpheus posted:poo poo, I was hearing up to play Pipeline, Caylus 1303, Wavelength, and some Pax Pamir 2nd Ed this weekend but the trains between my city and my friends' are shut down due to protests drat, I thought you were building-up to a TTR/18xx joke, but was saddened by the conclusion. That sucks - I hope you can reorganise it for the near future, and don't miss out on the games day in the end
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Morpheus posted:poo poo, I was hearing up to play Pipeline, Caylus 1303, Wavelength, and some Pax Pamir 2nd Ed this weekend but the trains between my city and my friends' are shut down due to protests Tell them you promise to not play Pipeline and maybe they'll let you through.
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CaptainRightful posted:Tell them you promise to not play Pipeline and maybe they'll let you through. It shouldn't even be a hard thing to do.
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CaptainRightful posted:Tell them you promise to not play Pipeline and maybe they'll let you through.  e: for reference, it's solidarity protesting for the Wet’suwet’en nation in British Columbia, opposing the building of another oil pipeline. Morpheus fucked around with this message at 15:54 on Feb 12, 2020 |
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SU&SD just did a review of King's Dilemma that has me hovering over the "BUY" button but wanted to see if anyone here has played it and can weigh in?
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FulsomFrank posted:SU&SD just did a review of King's Dilemma that has me hovering over the "BUY" button but wanted to see if anyone here has played it and can weigh in?
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FulsomFrank posted:SU&SD just did a review of King's Dilemma that has me hovering over the "BUY" button but wanted to see if anyone here has played it and can weigh in? I've only played a few games of it but I enjoyed it a lot. The story is really good and the mechanics of the game are easy to get a grasp of but complex enough with the hidden goals and such that it leaves a lot of possibilities open. It's largely going to end up failing or succeeding for you based on who you're playing with. The discussion and voting process is what makes the game and if you have a bunch of passive people at the table, you can easily reach a point where it feels like you're just reading cards. If you have a group that's serious, you're going to have a lot of fun though. I think it's a great game, it just requires the right audience.
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FulsomFrank posted:SU&SD just did a review of King's Dilemma that has me hovering over the "BUY" button but wanted to see if anyone here has played it and can weigh in? It's not just SUSD that love it, SVWAG were pretty positive but haven't done a full review and actually I've not seen any negative opinions which is really rare
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SVWAG put King’s Dillema as top 3 of 2019, basically describing a single turn as being more impactful than an entire game’s worth in another legacy game.
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FulsomFrank posted:SU&SD just did a review of King's Dilemma that has me hovering over the "BUY" button but wanted to see if anyone here has played it and can weigh in? Haha, I'm doing the same. The game sounds so interesting, I really want to try it!
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I bought it. There aren't a ton of instances where both SU&SD and SVWAG will agree a game is great. I tend to listen when they do. Plus, the actual gameplay shown is my jam, particularly the sloshing around wine while ordering executions bit.
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I really enjoyed it. The actual game part is so bare-bones to be nearly farcical, but it makes it pretty easy to get into the role playing of your faction. The story, while fantastical, has a consistent tone to it, and it being larger than life creates an atmosphere where self serving, maniacal plays fit right in. It’s not a really a legacy game; it’s a campaign game where setup and player powers will change. And if you have a zero percent interest in story and role playing, then stay away, because the actual game is an auction game where who wins a game is largely out of your control. But I think it was pretty good. Ubik_Lives fucked around with this message at 02:14 on Feb 13, 2020 |
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hmm... interesting appraisals. I think another board game critic has weighed in on it too. https://youtu.be/rxgWHzMvXOY?t=48
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King’s dilemma sounds like a worse version of JoCo
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They can't all be Splotters, you nerds.
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King's Dilemma sounds like a game that would be extremely my poo poo, but man would I want to have the right group for something like that. Campaign/legacy games are tough if you don't have a preexisting regular group as it is, but I feel like this is the kind of thing that would bounce off a lot of gamers.
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Memnaelar posted:They can't all be Splotters, you nerds. Great, now you made me want a Splotter version of JoCo.
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Memnaelar posted:They can't all be Splotters, you nerds. If I want to roleplay I'm not playing a board game.
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Bottom Liner posted:Great, now you made me want a Splotter version of JoCo. It’s a card game that costs $100
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al-azad posted:It’s a card game that costs $100 You don't say
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The goggles do nothing!
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Talking of John Company is there any further word on the 2ed kickstarter?
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OrthoTrot posted:Talking of John Company is there any further word on the 2ed kickstarter? It's going to be decoupled from the Pax Pamir 2e reprint KS because Cole wants to do even more tweaking/work on it, so the kickstarter for it will be later in the year.
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Bottom Liner posted:Great, now you made me want a Splotter version of JoCo. It’s called Greed Incorporated Fellis fucked around with this message at 15:07 on Feb 13, 2020 |
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OrthoTrot posted:Talking of John Company is there any further word on the 2ed kickstarter? Plus it’s starting to sound more like it’ll be JoCo 2e instead of just rules tweaks, and there might be too many changes to offer the “upgrade kit” that was discussed.
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Triskelli posted:Plus it’s starting to sound more like it’ll be JoCo 2e instead of just rules tweaks, and there might be too many changes to offer the “upgrade kit” that was discussed. If it doesn't come with top hats, cigars, and a miniature oak desk on which to lay the map upon it's a hard pass. Pax Pamir set the standards too high.
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FulsomFrank posted:If it doesn't come with top hats, cigars, and a miniature oak desk on which to lay the map upon it's a hard pass. Pax Pamir set the standards too high.
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