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Main Paineframe posted:like sure, Ryan slashed public assistance and wanted to kill social security, but daring to disrespect a priest is the one thing ordinary workers just won't tolerate!!!!1 the "decorum" meme
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Modus Pwnens posted:Finally, a plausible reason she wouldn't remember writing those posts 
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little munchkin posted:the "decorum" meme https://twitter.com/DavidKlion/status/990347546395578368
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:It's ok guys, he followed all the government regulations on torturing animals and leaving them to die. you must be a level 43 gaslighter in order to proceed in the democratic primary
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Apr 28, 2018 23:21
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Modus Pwnens posted:Finally, a plausible reason she wouldn't remember writing those posts
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reactionary mind should be required reading for he suck zone/cspam, along with listen liberal
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:reactionary mind should be required reading for he suck zone/cspam, along with listen liberal In order to get my Liberal parents to understand where I was coming from I bought my dad that for Christmas, along with a dvd of the Horse soldiers.
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:reactionary mind should be required reading for he suck zone/cspam, along with listen liberal Reactionary Mind is an essential reminder that it's conservatism which is informed by liberalism and not the other way around. That's why it's so remarkable now that liberals are adopting Republican trappings, because they don't understand why they keep losing.
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the followup is also good and illuminating: https://twitter.com/DavidKlion/status/990348267367124992
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Reactionary Mind is an essential reminder that it's conservatism which is informed by liberalism and not the other way around. That's why it's so remarkable now that liberals are adopting Republican trappings, because they don't understand why they keep losing. It's because the lanyard class things like rigging primaries to make sure candidates like former GOP military vet is a good plan especially because it appeases their donors.
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SKULL.GIF posted:the followup is also good and illuminating: which is amazing when they claim themselves victims therefore if liberals claim themselves victims, they play something right out of the right wing textbook as JAR is doing, therefore liberalism starts to become indistinguishable from conservatism because they work within this frame of capitalism since they are largely center-right in approach to policies and how they appease so easily to conservatives. If they enable, they're no different, and their bullying comes from passive aggressive delegitimization and toxic smear campaigns. Examples like Hillary starting the birther movement, JAR excoriating Bernie Sanders on merits other than policies which are ad hominems, the list goes on. They excuse it with "thats politics, thats how its supposed to be." when clearly things could stand to be a lot better if one would defer to policy making merits instead of dirty games.
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really queer Christmas posted:gently caress this guy holy poo poo https://twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/status/990352155495280640
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Lastgirl posted:which is amazing when they claim themselves victims You've got this backwards. Conservatives play the victim because they think they lost civil rights and the culture war, because minorities played the victim card and garnered enough sympathy to be mainstreamed. Being unfairly treated is presumed to carry a moral authority, but civil rights leaders of the past derived their moral authority from higher principles of justice, not from the fact that they weren't being guaranteed liberal freedoms. So in the end you have liberals and conservatives pretending to victimhood, without having any real vision of how society ought to be different.
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Lastgirl posted:which is amazing when they claim themselves victims When they go low, we pretend to go high.
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SKULL.GIF posted:When they go low, we pretend to go high. The decorumrats They would rather have the smug moral high ground than actually win anything
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:You've got this backwards. Conservatives play the victim because they think they lost civil rights and the culture war, because minorities played the victim card and garnered enough sympathy to be mainstreamed. Being unfairly treated is presumed to carry a moral authority, but civil rights leaders of the past derived their moral authority from higher principles of justice, not from the fact that they weren't being guaranteed liberal freedoms. So in the end you have liberals and conservatives pretending to victimhood, without having any real vision of how society ought to be different. Err backwards? I mean what you are saying makes sense but I'm saying that they're indistinguishable now even if the genesis falls squarely with the right wing. It seems like they sell victimhood rather, in order to appeal to their bases who are the real victims and can identify with it from the impacts of policy making decisions perpetuated by third wayism as a result
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Serf posted:i just think hawaii should have a football team we do have state-run sports teams though its just that the players are minors and unpaid
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Rand alPaul posted:My mom only watches MSNBC and she loves Joy Reid and can't understand why I don't like her. When I explained she cut me off with, "you people on the internet hate everyone." I mean, she's not totally wrong there.
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Lastgirl posted:Err backwards? I mean what you are saying makes sense but I'm saying that they're indistinguishable now even if the genesis falls squarely with the right wing. I mean, you implied it's libs following the conservative lead, but it's the other way around is all. I guess it's not really important who's following who.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:I mean, you implied it's libs following the conservative lead, but it's the other way around is all. I guess it's not really important who's following who. Ah fair enough, ya I mean at this point it is what it is now. I guess I'm thinking about post-escalator liberals following the conservatives' lead, rather than 50 years in the making that is resultant of this toxic culture of passive aggressive victimhood
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I have not watched a single minute of AM Joy in my life, but I'm willing to bet it punches left a hell of a lot less than Joy-Reid-on-twitter. Maddow's obsession with Russia is probably more generally damaging to the MSNBC Liberal mindset than JAR is.
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Russian hackers are like the liberal version of SJWs. A minor annoyance blown up into an existential enemy, which is an excuse for never having to do any kind of self-examination.
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But Rocks Hurt Head posted:I have not watched a single minute of AM Joy in my life, but I'm willing to bet it punches left a hell of a lot less than Joy-Reid-on-twitter. Maddow's obsession with Russia is probably more generally damaging to the MSNBC Liberal mindset than JAR is. yeah russia maddow has easily 4-5x the audience reid has and her show's only marginally more tethered to reality than louise mensch or eric garland these days
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The Muppets On PCP posted:yeah russia maddow has easily 4-5x the audience reid has and her show's only marginally more tethered to reality than louise mensch or eric garland these days dolla dolla bill yall
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Reactionary Mind is an essential reminder that it's conservatism which is informed by liberalism and not the other way around. That's why it's so remarkable now that liberals are adopting Republican trappings, because they don't understand why they keep losing.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Russian hackers are like the liberal version of SJWs. A minor annoyance blown up into an existential enemy, which is an excuse for never having to do any kind of self-examination. except that liberals are now apparently complaining about sjws too
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Yea, that's the 'callout culture is bad now' turn. They were some of its greatest practitioners, when it came to Bernie Sanders, but the moment it inconveniences them, is the moment they immediately swing right, and buy into 'pc gone mad' rhetoric.
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im pretty sure when i first heard the term SJWs it was from leftists, referring to the extremely online teens of 2010 with no class consciousness or historical perspective but would dive head first into anti-racist rhetoric and embarrass everyone who takes these issues seriously. dont think i saw the RWM pick up on it until years later
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Except it's not a real turn. They're gonna go back to exploiting callout culture as soon as this blows over.
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anime was right posted:fwiw i think chris matthews should be fired first if anyone wowthats some strong succ
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Condiv posted:except that liberals are now apparently complaining about sjws too The left is learning the hard way that certain liberals will cynically use issues of race and gender to shut down inconvenient arguments. It’s been a thing the right’s dealt with for a long time now (and part of the reason they get such a bug up their rear end about sjws) but now that the progressive movement is getting it too people are starting to take the issue more seriously. Which is good because I’m pretty sure the practice has given more credibility to bigots than anything else and it needs to be killed with fire.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Except it's not a real turn. They're gonna go back to exploiting callout culture as soon as this blows over. Long term, the utility of callout culture to liberals will diminish, as the same process is used against them, and it therefore erodes the previous moral superiority complex that characterises liberalism. The only way to retake the smugness high ground will be to say that the left took it to far and that's why we have Nazis now.
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Andrei Dorkovsky posted:im pretty sure when i first heard the term SJWs it was from leftists, referring to the extremely online teens of 2010 with no class consciousness or historical perspective but would dive head first into anti-racist rhetoric and embarrass everyone who takes these issues seriously. dont think i saw the RWM pick up on it until years later as with every other criticism of the left / left-adjacent the right-wing co-opted the hell out of it because they'll happily pick up anything that seems to be gaining traction
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It's all personally very frustrating for me, because I've always thought callout culture was trash, but precisely because of its liberalism, and precisely because of its usage by social climbers to status signal. So to see the very same status signallers talk some empty bullshit about how the attacks (on them) are proof that "  it's time for us all to hold hands and move on, together, away from callout culture, now that it has inconvenienced me " leaves me with this deep rooted anger.
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Rastor posted:Their brains really are broken now. They can't even recognize their own blog entries. Loved ones and family appear as strangers to them. And all of it, all of it, a Russian conspiracy
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ok it’s getting funny again https://twitter.com/mattbinder/status/990396363446906880 https://twitter.com/julie_johnsoned/status/990300842149531653
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rudatron posted:I don't expect this alone to force a turn, but a turn is coming, or at least in the works imo. I 💯% expect, that this time next year, there'll be a lot of hand wringing by liberals of 'leftist intolerance' or some such. The real turn is going to come when they're tired of being criticized for palling around with the David Frums of the world, because Nevertrumpers are on The Team now.
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