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doctorfrog
Mar 14, 2007

Great.

Tucows was somehow too big. I ended up visiting nonags.com for a curated catalog of cool freeware that didn't nag me to register.

Having a Palm III was like having a grown-up Game Boy I could take to work. I got a bunch of stuff from FreewarePalm.com.

https://web.archive.org/web/20040611094748/http://www.freewarepalm.com:80/

Played a bunch of Cody's Quest, a little Palm RPG engine that ripped off Final Fantasy sprites I think.

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CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013



Buttcoin purse posted:


Formerly "The Ultimate Collection Of Winsock Software".

At least I think this is a relic, I haven't heard anyone say to get something from there - or had Google return a result from there - for a pretty long time, although it still exists, and it looks like it's had software updated on it this year. From the home page of that site, it looks like they probably make their money from domain registration and providing a cellphone service these days. Wikipedia says they're the second-largest domain registrar in the world!

They also make a database for billing and account tracking for ISPs called Platypus. I worked at a place that used it, and it's not bad software, or at least wasn't during my tenure.

http://www.ispbilling.com/

Humbug Scoolbus
Apr 25, 2008

The scarlet letter was her passport into regions where other women dared not tread. Shame, Despair, Solitude! These had been her teachers, stern and wild ones, and they had made her strong, but taught her much amiss.
Clapping Larry

doctorfrog posted:

Tucows was somehow too big. I ended up visiting nonags.com for a curated catalog of cool freeware that didn't nag me to register.

Having a Palm III was like having a grown-up Game Boy I could take to work. I got a bunch of stuff from FreewarePalm.com.

https://web.archive.org/web/20040611094748/http://www.freewarepalm.com:80/

Played a bunch of Cody's Quest, a little Palm RPG engine that ripped off Final Fantasy sprites I think.

I still have my Handspring Prism and it works great.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

Non Serviam posted:

I remember downloading shareware from there in my early Internet days (around 97, I think).
I miss the ignorance and naiveté that I felt on my first Internet days. I'm getting old, basically.

Nah, that was a different time. The internet then was a vast untapped frontier, that I doubt can ever be recreated. Everything about it was new and exciting then.

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant

Iron Crowned posted:

Nah, that was a different time. The internet then was a vast untapped frontier, that I doubt can ever be recreated. Everything about it was new and exciting then.
There was a time when Gopher through AOL (and AOL Keywords) was a far more manageable resource than going to the World Wide WEB.

Part of it, though, is logging on and thinking "ok, what do I want to do today". Nowadays it's mostly hitting up the same sites or apps.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

FilthyImp posted:

There was a time when Gopher through AOL (and AOL Keywords) was a far more manageable resource than going to the World Wide WEB.

Part of it, though, is logging on and thinking "ok, what do I want to do today". Nowadays it's mostly hitting up the same sites or apps.

I dunno, even in 1995 I would hit up the same sites. Granted those sites were porn, but still.

Computer viking
May 30, 2011
Now with less breakage.

FilthyImp posted:

Part of it, though, is logging on and thinking "ok, what do I want to do today". Nowadays it's mostly hitting up the same sites or apps.

See also Where do you want to go today.

Randaconda
Jul 3, 2014

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Iron Crowned posted:

Nah, that was a different time. The internet then was a vast untapped frontier, that I doubt can ever be recreated. Everything about it was new and exciting then.

It really was a different time. Everything runs better now, but I miss the chaos of the early internet, spinning skull gifs and under constructions signs and all.

Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014

Non Serviam posted:

I miss the ignorance and naiveté that I felt on my first Internet days. I'm getting old, basically.
:yossame:

Cojawfee posted:

So this is basically the same kind of situation as some movie theater chain owning all of CBS?
Yeah, although there was a reverse takeover in there at some point, so I guess at some level it's not entirely based on the company that ran a website for downloading shareware.

Also yes, I think that in the start TUCOWS was good, but then as everything got more commerical, nonags.com was better. I went too far and now I use open source :suicide:

whiteyfats posted:

I miss the chaos of the early internet, spinning skull gifs and under constructions signs and all.
No need to miss them, This Guy Compiled Every 'Under Construction' GIF from the 90s ("This Guy" is Jason Scott from archive.org)

Randaconda
Jul 3, 2014

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Yesssssssss.

Grand Prize Winner
Feb 19, 2007



Holy poo poo, a riotgrrrl-style cover of High Hopes.

Negostrike
Aug 15, 2015


Heh, I always got my shareware from those CD-ROM magazines. I still have some of them, featuring incredible image collections of some 20 bmp files with no more than 400 pixels wide or tall, sound effects, midi files and so on.

All of them were Brazilian magazines except one, which was (very probably) a PC Zone from 1996 with Neverhood on the cover. Couldn't find a scan of this one on the internet so far. Does anyone here have it, by any chance?

SLOSifl
Aug 10, 2002


I remember when AOL added "the web" in (I think) 2.5 or 3.0. My buddy's family had Prodigy and it got webs earlier. We spent most of our time downloading TV show theme songs in WAV or MIDI format and playing with the files in sound recorder. Then we both discovered porn and never talked again.

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant

SLOSifl posted:

I remember when AOL added "the web" in (I think) 2.5 or 3.0.
They added support in 2.5, which meant spending forever downloading their AOL branded rendition of Netscape Navigator (which, iirc, wasn't compatible with NN plug-ins so some things were broken ).

3.0 added the bundled browser and integrated it with their garden. I believe the post3.0 updates made it a more traditional online service, so you could use IE or NN to surf outside of the AOL environs.

I do kind of wish someone made a retro AOL emulator just to see what it was like again. I know the one goon found still-active keywords and poo poo.

Hell, maybe Aol outright could make AOL Throwback and make money from the ads. If Zima can come back, anything is possible.

SLOSifl
Aug 10, 2002


If someone makes a retro AOL, can I make a retro AoHell in Delphi?

Also the Kashmir fake account creator (drat there was NO credit card security back then) used an instrumental Beastie Boys song while it did its thing, always loved that, or so I hear.

Iron Prince
Aug 28, 2005
Buglord

doctorfrog posted:

Played a bunch of Cody's Quest, a little Palm RPG engine that ripped off Final Fantasy sprites I think.

Oh if that's the same one I'm thinking of it was Kyle's Quest. I used to gently caress around with the little scenario developer kit on the computer a lot and I emailed back and forth a bit with the creator.

http://www.nathansalapat.com/blog/kyles-quest

And apparently there's a KQ2 out on iOS and android apparently so it's still out there

http://www.rpg-site.com/kylesquest2.html

Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014

FilthyImp posted:

They added support in 2.5, which meant spending forever downloading their AOL branded rendition of Netscape Navigator (which, iirc, wasn't compatible with NN plug-ins so some things were broken ).

Oh no, you couldn't go through Shockwave, RealPlayer or QuickTime (e: or Java) plugin hell?

doctorfrog
Mar 14, 2007

Great.

Iron Prince posted:

Oh if that's the same one I'm thinking of it was Kyle's Quest. I used to gently caress around with the little scenario developer kit on the computer a lot and I emailed back and forth a bit with the creator.

http://www.nathansalapat.com/blog/kyles-quest

And apparently there's a KQ2 out on iOS and android apparently so it's still out there

http://www.rpg-site.com/kylesquest2.html

Yep, that's it! If there were a PalmOS emulator on RetroPie I'd be loading these up for nostalgia's sake.

The other one that I logged a lot of hours on was Space Trader (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Trader_(Palm_OS))

doctorfrog has a new favorite as of 06:38 on Jun 12, 2017

CubanMissile
Apr 22, 2003

Of Hulks and Spider-Men

Grand Prize Winner posted:

Holy poo poo, a riotgrrrl-style cover of High Hopes.

I don't know why I was expecting a cover of Pink Floyd's High Hopes. That was dumb of me.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Remember when you had to have multiple instances of a browser open in the days before tabs? Meanwhile now I regularly have 20 tabs sitting there ready for me to browse.

Grand Prize Winner
Feb 19, 2007


CubanMissile posted:

I don't know why I was expecting a cover of Pink Floyd's High Hopes. That was dumb of me.

It kinda makes sense though. Seattle was like, the epicenter of both Microsoft and grunge.

Star Man
Jun 1, 2008

There's a star maaaaaan
Over the rainbow
You just know that there's some kid out there that stumbled across his older brother's or dad's CDs and said: "whoa, Korn! That's old school!"

Typing that sentence made me die inside a little bit.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Star Man posted:

You just know that there's some kid out there that stumbled across his older brother's or dad's CDs and said: "whoa, Korn! That's old school!"

Typing that sentence made me die inside a little bit.

I'm already feeling old when the radio station the work radios are on say "and now for some OOLLLLLD SCHOOOOL goodness" and they play Linkin Park.

JediTalentAgent
Jun 5, 2005
Hey, look. Look, if- if you screw me on this, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine, you rat bastard!

Negrostrike posted:

Heh, I always got my shareware from those CD-ROM magazines. I still have some of them, featuring incredible image collections of some 20 bmp files with no more than 400 pixels wide or tall, sound effects, midi files and so on.

One of the strangest bits of shareware/freeware I ever found on a disc like that was a Microsoft GIF Animator that at the time was pretty easy to use and basic, but I had good results with the few times I used it. Then I lost the disk and lost the program due to an reformat and it turned out it was no longer available on the MS site when I went looking for it. A rumor from around the time was that MS actually removed the download for a period of time due to some GIF legal stuff going on at the time.

I guess that's a thing, too: Wasn't Compuserve trying to sue for control over the GIF format for a while in the late 90s/early 00s? I seem to recall that some version of Windows or some program I had actually didn't have GIF support one way or another (like maybe it WOULD open a GIF but it wouldn't save as one.)

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


JediTalentAgent posted:

One of the strangest bits of shareware/freeware I ever found on a disc like that was a Microsoft GIF Animator that at the time was pretty easy to use and basic, but I had good results with the few times I used it. Then I lost the disk and lost the program due to an reformat and it turned out it was no longer available on the MS site when I went looking for it. A rumor from around the time was that MS actually removed the download for a period of time due to some GIF legal stuff going on at the time.

I guess that's a thing, too: Wasn't Compuserve trying to sue for control over the GIF format for a while in the late 90s/early 00s? I seem to recall that some version of Windows or some program I had actually didn't have GIF support one way or another (like maybe it WOULD open a GIF but it wouldn't save as one.)

This article from 1995 should help:

http://www.amigareport.com/ar304/feature2.html

Native animated GIF support inside explorer without using shell extensions too long

A Pinball Wizard
Mar 23, 2005

I know every trick, no freak's gonna beat my hands

College Slice
Back in the active desktop days you could set an animated gif as your background in Windows. I remember grabbing huge gifs off SA wallpaper threads that would slowly cycle through the rainbow over the course of an hour, 15 min, 1 min, etc.

Then MS removed active desktop just because it was full of huge glaring security holes :saddowns:

Gonz
Dec 22, 2009

"Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?"
https://twitter.com/CoolBoxArt/status/874685336827383808

Gromit
Aug 15, 2000

I am an oppressed White Male, Asian women wont serve me! Save me Campbell Newman!!!!!!!

A Pinball Wizard posted:

Back in the active desktop days you could set an animated gif as your background in Windows. I remember grabbing huge gifs off SA wallpaper threads that would slowly cycle through the rainbow over the course of an hour, 15 min, 1 min, etc.

Then MS removed active desktop just because it was full of huge glaring security holes :saddowns:

http://store.steampowered.com/app/431960/Wallpaper_Engine/

Randaconda
Jul 3, 2014

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
I use this free program called John's Wallpaper Switcher than changes my wallpaper every few minutes.

A Pinball Wizard
Mar 23, 2005

I know every trick, no freak's gonna beat my hands

College Slice
The Windows wallpaper switcher used to save whatever file was currently the selected wallpaper in the C:\WIndows folder. If you rebooted enough before the wallpaper was switched, and it was a jpg, you could watch the artifacts get worse with each reboot.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule



This is a really cool program.

1000 Brown M and Ms
Oct 22, 2008

F:\DL>quickfli 4-clowns.fli

Humphreys posted:

Remember when you had to have multiple instances of a browser open in the days before tabs? Meanwhile now I regularly have 20 tabs sitting there ready for me to browse.

Yep, number one reason I used Netscape for so long back in the early 2000s. It had tabbed browsing and Internet Explorer did not. IIRC IE didn't support tabbed browsing for an embarrasingly long time after Firefox and Chrome introduced it.

I remember a PhD student in my research group at uni (ca. 2010) who was very much against tabbed browsing because "if it crashes, you don't know what caused it". It was a bit weird, but then again he was also a guy who insisted on using big fuckoff CRTs long after everyone else had gotten flatscreens because "the aspect ratio was wrong for reading pdfs".

Grand Prize Winner
Feb 19, 2007


I was another CRT guy up until 2010 or so because you could get a 20" CRT for like $20 when similar LCDs were going for $200. Sure, they weighed a hundred pounds, but they were CHEAP!

1000 Brown M and Ms
Oct 22, 2008

F:\DL>quickfli 4-clowns.fli
Fair enough, but for this guy cost wasn't an issue as the university supplied the computers we all used.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


I was doing the whole 'old man tales' thing to a few of the younger co-workers the other day at work. When they learnt that Google wasn't always an omnipresent thing and wikipedia was this new thing that no one trusted the sources for, they lost their minds. Explaining that your knowledge was limited to actually researching through books at the library you had near you. The sphere of knowledge was limited to how good you were at looking stuff up and also how good your library was. Also - asking for ICQ/MSN addresses instead of cellphone numbers when out at the clubs.

Humphreys has a new favorite as of 12:05 on Jun 14, 2017

Literally Lewis Hamilton
Feb 22, 2005



1000 Brown M and Ms posted:

Yep, number one reason I used Netscape for so long back in the early 2000s. It had tabbed browsing and Internet Explorer did not. IIRC IE didn't support tabbed browsing for an embarrasingly long time after Firefox and Chrome introduced it.

I remember a PhD student in my research group at uni (ca. 2010) who was very much against tabbed browsing because "if it crashes, you don't know what caused it". It was a bit weird, but then again he was also a guy who insisted on using big fuckoff CRTs long after everyone else had gotten flatscreens because "the aspect ratio was wrong for reading pdfs".

One of my dual monitors (22" 16:9) is rotated 90degrees for sweet reading action.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Grand Prize Winner posted:

I was another CRT guy up until 2010 or so because you could get a 20" CRT for like $20 when similar LCDs were going for $200. Sure, they weighed a hundred pounds, but they were CHEAP!

I had a big-rear end CRT (can't remember how big but I'd like to say over 22" anyway) way into the 2010s but in Summer it would make the room too hot so I got rid of it. Good picture, though; it was one of the "professional" brands but I forget which one.

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



big crush on Chad OMG posted:

One of my dual monitors (22" 16:9) is rotated 90degrees for sweet reading action.

In my experience, 16:9 is almost too tall and narrow when rotated. My ideal would be 4:3 rotated to 3:4; this gives a height:width ration of about 1.3, while a sheet of 8.5x11 paper has a ratio of approx 1.33.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Pham Nuwen posted:

In my experience, 16:9 is almost too tall and narrow when rotated. My ideal would be 4:3 rotated to 3:4; this gives a height:width ration of about 1.3, while a sheet of 8.5x11 paper has a ratio of approx 1.33.

√2 or :getout:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_216

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Star Man
Jun 1, 2008

There's a star maaaaaan
Over the rainbow

Paper--a tech relic

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