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zegermans posted:what else could that post have possibly meant I know this is a shock to you, but the south isn't 100% black. There's lots of white, latino, and asian people down there too! Weird, I know!
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Matt Zerella posted:I know this is a shock to you, but the south isn't 100% black. There's lots of white, latino, and asian people down there too! Weird, I know! this is dipping seriously into "oh you called me out guess you're the real racist" territory
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didnt read nothin i just konw that cuz the smeell
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tbf claims that been I did a poor job selling himself in the South are accurate and if he runs again he'll need a civil rights agenda that isn't "I did a thing in the 60's". The bad party structure also probably hurt his turnout down there, but Bernie should focus on things he has control over. this gets occasionally overlooked cause zegs is a bad poster, but there are lessons to learn there
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Agean90 posted:tbf claims that been I did a poor job selling himself in the South are accurate and if he runs again he'll need a civil rights agenda that isn't "I did a thing in the 60's". The bad party structure also probably hurt his turnout down there, but Bernie should focus on things he has control over. Been I is his rastafarian name
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zegermans posted:this is dipping seriously into "oh you called me out guess you're the real racist" territory it's really not, once again, you're taking it there.
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Agean90 posted:tbf claims that been I did a poor job selling himself in the South are accurate and if he runs again he'll need a civil rights agenda that isn't "I did a thing in the 60's". The bad party structure also probably hurt his turnout down there, but Bernie should focus on things he has control over. This is the correct interpretation. Blaming Bernie for not winning the south in the primaries, instead of blaming the south for being allowed to vote in primaries.
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zegermans posted:This is the correct interpretation. Blaming Bernie for not winning the south in the primaries, instead of blaming the south for being allowed to vote in primaries. No one did this. It's like watching someone lose a sneeze.
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zegermans posted:The tea party only worked because the they hated the left more than the establishment right. The DSA's primary goal is to scream about how dems can't win anything and then do everything they can to be right. I'm sure there's a plan B but they're all too comfortably white to care about it. How do you get this so dreadfully wrong? Tea Party ideology took over the GOP precisely because its adherents didn't give a single solitary poo poo about preserving the establishment right. They were more than willing to nuke anyone who stepped out of line, even if it meant running an idiotic candidate who would go on to do or say something really stupid and lose the general. No, they didn't suddenly unseat all the GOP incumbents. But they made every Republican lawmaker scared shitless of them, so their ideas became the new party orthodoxy anyway.
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Matt Zerella posted:No one did this. It's like watching someone lose a sneeze. you gotta consider who you're arguing with
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Serf posted:you gotta consider who you're arguing with I'm not even arguing with him and I think I'm one of the rare people who doesn't mind that lovable nincompoop. I v much enjoyed his troll free week, but I guess he has to revert to his normal state.
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Progressives should push Bernie as the polite centrist and run someone even further to the left if 2020 is a clown car. This also gives a slight chance of comedy option where the US elects a communist in 2020 somehow.
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SKULL.GIF posted:wow check out all these states that hillary won check out all those counties that a progressive won that votes for a fascist in the GE
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Agnosticnixie posted:Progressives should push Bernie as the polite centrist and run someone even further to the left if 2020 is a clown car. Castro is dead tho
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Zoran posted:How do you get this so dreadfully wrong? Tea Party ideology took over the GOP precisely because its adherents didn't give a single solitary poo poo about preserving the establishment right. They were more than willing to nuke anyone who stepped out of line, even if it meant running an idiotic candidate who would go on to do or say something really stupid and lose the general. the tea party is horse poo poo, it's just the gop re-branded. beyond the fact that they didn't really win that many primaries with a few notable exceptions, in actuality there's not much difference between the gop of 1996 and the gop of 2016. there is, and always has been, almost no difference between GOP Classic and GOP Tea Party other than some of the tea partiers are absolutely batshit to the point where they think they can just not lift the debt ceiling and everything is fine.
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Matt Zerella posted:I'm not even arguing with him and I think I'm one of the rare people who doesn't mind that lovable nincompoop. I v much enjoyed his troll free week, but I guess he has to revert to his normal state. so long as you understand i guess. knock yourself out
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Read my lips: No new data centers
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Matt Zerella posted:I know this is a shock to you, but the south isn't 100% black. There's lots of white, latino, and asian people down there too! Weird, I know! no one should ever forget that moment when a roomfull of rich white Hillary democrats hissed like lizards at a black lives matter protester at that South Carolina fundraising dinner
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consumed by normies posted:DNC Hack Survivor hahahahahaaaha
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zegermans posted:check out all those counties that a progressive won I agree, socialism is a potent weapon against fascism and liberalism is impotent
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"This is exactly like rape" - someone who probably has barely any history of hardship
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zeal posted:no one should ever forget that moment when a roomfull of rich white Hillary democrats hissed like lizards at a black lives matter protester at that South Carolina fundraising dinner it was a very revealing moment
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MHJ is back on his bullshit https://twitter.com/nunyerbeezwax/status/885808263865880576 My lord he's dense.
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Truly we are all DNC hack survivors.
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zegermans posted:Castro is dead tho drat I just remembered all the talk about the bright political future of the Castro brothers. WHOOPS!
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Matt Zerella posted:MHJ is back on his bullshit He's actually correct Working Class has largely become a euphemism for "white person who works hard and can't get ahead, unlike THOSE people"
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Concerned Citizen posted:the tea party is horse poo poo, it's just the gop re-branded. beyond the fact that they didn't really win that many primaries with a few notable exceptions, in actuality there's not much difference between the gop of 1996 and the gop of 2016. there is, and always has been, almost no difference between GOP Classic and GOP Tea Party other than some of the tea partiers are absolutely batshit to the point where they think they can just not lift the debt ceiling and everything is fine. This is akin to saying that the left wing of the Democratic Party now isn't really bringing anything different because Democrats have always been in favor of single-payer. Of course the Tea Party policy package has analogues to what the GOP ostensibly believed decades ago. What's different about it is that the movement focused on ideological commitment absolutely, and so it was able to effectively enforce party discipline in a way that's rare in the US.
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zegermans posted:Sorry. "southern black votes that cost Bernie the nomination shouldn't count" is one of my biggest triggers Tell us once you get the Hillary 2020 thinking emoji onesie.
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what is smoothbrain kobra's job does he matter do msnbc hosts retweet or something why does anyone care about him is what im saying here
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Iron Twinkie posted:Don't worry Hillarymen in need of validation and Bernie Bros in need of a laugh, the loving Brookings Institution is here to let you know that the party that controls goverment at every level is extremely weak and about to collapse. Hes half right where the GOP are incredibly vulnerable right now, assuming you can hit them in the right place with the right message. Its just that centrism really isn't that message to run on...
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zegermans posted:He's actually correct Working Class has largely become a euphemism for "white person who works hard and can't get ahead, unlike THOSE people" still trying to unpack the irony in this post. oh my.
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Matt Zerella posted:still trying to unpack the irony in this post. oh my. he's right sam adler bell posted:I watched one of Trump’s last speeches before the election. In it, he said, “Tomorrow, the American working class will strike back.” I was struck. No contemporary Democratic politician would (or could, credibly) say those words. Afraid of scaring off their donors or being red-baited, most Democrats won’t even utter the phrase “working class”—preferring the capacious and increasingly meaningless “middle class” or, at best, “working families.” But Trump said it. His rural and exurban white supporters have a class consciousness of sorts. They despise elites. They feel that the system is rigged. But that antipathy is entirely entangled with their fear of a black president, of eroding racial and gender hierarchies, and their perception that multi-cultural elites are helping minorities at their expense. Trump can say “working class” because everyone in his audience hears the unsaid word “white” preceding it. It is, as it has ever been, the left’s task to build a mass political movement where there are no words silently preceding the term “working class.” It’s not hyperbole to say that everything depends on it. this blog post was good
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GalacticAcid posted:he's right trump supporters can think of it as a racist dogwhistle, but the working class encompasses likt 99% of the people in america and the world
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GalacticAcid posted:what is smoothbrain kobra's job why does anyone ever care what someone says on twitter
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