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Benito Cereno posted:I suspect this is the webcomic they meant. On a meta level, this is correct. In continuity the answer is she has invulnerability to punches, laser blasts, fire etc... in the same range as Superman or Captain Marvel. But she is vulnerability to piercing damage. So swords and arrows and ultimately bullets can hurt her. And that's why she uses the bracelets to deflect them. It's supposed to be representative of how mother Gaia has given her the toughness of the Earth. And the Earth is strong and can resist explosions and impact but can be pierced by shovels and spades.
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I don't even know where to begin on the idea that the Earth is somehow more impervious to explosions than a digging implement.
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Benito Cereno posted:I suspect this is the webcomic they meant. This was it.
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Jun 15, 2017 16:14
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The answer is pretty simple to me.
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I've been re-reading Uncanny Avengers volume 1 and I am wondering were Kang, Immortus and Rama-Tut ALWAYS the same person, or was it a retcon sometime later? The first thing I can remember reading where it was a plot point was Avengers Forever.
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Jun 16, 2017 05:26
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Kang was always Rama-Tut, but I think Immortus was separate until the late 70s.
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Jun 16, 2017 06:00
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Kang identified himself as Rama Tut in his first appearance, apparently? I've never read it myself. The internet says Immortus was connected in Giant Size Avengers #3, about 11 years after all 3 characters were introduced. Old Nate was also the Scarlet Centurion in between. That one was also always the same guy. It's a reveal in the story. Aphrodite fucked around with this message at 06:20 on Jun 16, 2017 |
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Jun 16, 2017 06:14
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havok9 posted:I've been re-reading Uncanny Avengers volume 1 and I am wondering were Kang, Immortus and Rama-Tut ALWAYS the same person, or was it a retcon sometime later? This is a good read from a 1979 fanzine. Surely a bunch has changed since, but this is pretty well-researched: https://www.scribd.com/document/149809344/The-Lives-and-Times-of-Doctor-Doom
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Jun 16, 2017 13:23
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That was a good read! My only quibble with it is it posits that Kang's "seemingly confused" mention of an animosity toward the Fantastic Four despite being an Avengers villain as a connection to Doom, but it's just an acknowledgement of their defeat of him when he was Rama-Tut.
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In the Funny and Inspiring(?) Panels threads the DC Comic Act of God came up and was discussed a bit. In short, the general feel seems to be that this is another book that sucks Batman's dick "because he's the best because he has no real powers and he can totally beat up Superman shut up yes he can". It's not the first book to do so. It will not be the last. But will there be a last book? Batman wasn't always god king of poo poo mountain. There was a time where Batman might get caught unprepared, or lose a fight to a superior fighter. Anymore, most comics that I've read that feature Batman make him out to be unstoppable but not in an entertaining way. Ironically, he's been turned into Superman Trap in that there's no challenge in it for him anymore. What I'm getting at is has the pendulum swung the other way at all recently? Am I the only person who thinks Batman has become a little too unstoppable? Or is everyone drinking the Kool-aid out of Bat-mugs still? I recognize that this is the way that Batman has been for about my entire life, so it's not anything new. I'm not asking for another Breaking of the Bat necessarily. But I would kind of like to see a story where Batman is outsmarted or out-planned. gently caress, give me a story where you are able to successfully throw a surprise party for him.
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Jun 21, 2017 01:31
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CzarChasm posted:In the Funny and Inspiring(?) Panels threads the DC Comic Act of God came up and was discussed a bit. In short, the general feel seems to be that this is another book that sucks Batman's dick "because he's the best because he has no real powers and he can totally beat up Superman shut up yes he can". Batman is unlikely to ever swing too far back. He's too absurdly popular and has remained so for an insane period of time. While he may get less popular than other heroes or characters he won't get less popular than other DC heroes or characters in any meaningful way for them to start owning him.
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Jun 21, 2017 01:36
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CzarChasm posted:In the Funny and Inspiring(?) Panels threads the DC Comic Act of God came up and was discussed a bit. In short, the general feel seems to be that this is another book that sucks Batman's dick "because he's the best because he has no real powers and he can totally beat up Superman shut up yes he can". Prometheus defeated Batman while making his debut.
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Jun 21, 2017 01:47
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Don't Batman's villains routinely gently caress him up? And win, at least temporarily? I assume modem Batman comics last beyond a first page where the narration states Batman anticipated his enemy's moves and put a stop to all plans and show's over, folks.
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I do feel like the pendulum is swinging back to a much more human Batman. Since Rebirth started, he's admitted to Kate he needs her help, been shown up as she revealed she deduced his secret ID years ago, admitted he underestimated Stephanie, extended a hand to Clayface and turned him into an ally, called in the JLA for help dealing with the Gothams going nuts, and in general been very compassionate, comforting kids after a mugging and consoling Steph and Cassandra with big ol hugs on multiple occasions. I don't read Justice League so it's very possible he's still a huge prick who's always right over there but the main Batman titles have shown a marked shift, imo.
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Jun 21, 2017 02:06
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Yeah, Snyder, and especially King, have been leaning more into the human end of Batman, which I think is natural considering they're both working from the shadow of Morrison, creator of the Bat-God, and his definitive run on Batman as symbol. I don't think we could ever have seen, for instance, Batman admitting he attempted suicide even just a few years ago.
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Jun 21, 2017 02:09
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RandallODim posted:Yeah, Snyder, and especially King, have been leaning more into the human end of Batman, which I think is natural considering they're both working from the shadow of Morrison, creator of the Bat-God, and his definitive run on Batman as symbol. Attempted? I thought he didn't fail at things.
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Jun 21, 2017 02:21
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prefect posted:Attempted? I thought he didn't fail at things. Batman being able/unable to kill himself feels like that ol' "can God create a rock so heavy even He can't lift it?" question.
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Jun 21, 2017 02:39
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Is American Vampire still going? Did it conclude? Did it have a proper conclusion? I was buying the trades and I got to the trade before they went into space and I haven't heard much else after that.
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Jun 21, 2017 22:22
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Man, I need to catch up on that series. I was super into it, but fell away from it a long time ago. I still need to finish Waid's Daredevil, too...
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I'm reading the first X-Men issues, and there's a part where Magneto forms a magnetic barrier to keep a group of soldiers confined in one place. Has he ever used this power to just straight up crush someone (or a group of people) by making the barrier smaller and smaller? I've never really read any X-Men, is that even a power he still has? It seems pretty powerful, you could really do just about anything you want with it.
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Low Desert Punk posted:I'm reading the first X-Men issues, and there's a part where Magneto forms a magnetic barrier to keep a group of soldiers confined in one place. Has he ever used this power to just straight up crush someone (or a group of people) by making the barrier smaller and smaller? I've never really read any X-Men, is that even a power he still has? It seems pretty powerful, you could really do just about anything you want with it. It varies, but in the early issues he's even using his magnetic powers for mind control bullshit, "personal magnetism" or some such. As always with comics, it varies immensely by write and plot convenience.
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Jun 22, 2017 00:44
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Low Desert Punk posted:I'm reading the first X-Men issues, and there's a part where Magneto forms a magnetic barrier to keep a group of soldiers confined in one place. Has he ever used this power to just straight up crush someone (or a group of people) by making the barrier smaller and smaller? I've never really read any X-Men, is that even a power he still has? It seems pretty powerful, you could really do just about anything you want with it. Yeah, Magneto still pulls out the "magnetic force field" trick from time to time, although I can't remember him crushing anyone with it (he's more likely to wrap an enemy in metal and then squash them).
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Jun 22, 2017 00:44
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Crushing people is more of a Graviton thing.
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Thaddius the Large posted:It varies, but in the early issues he's even using his magnetic powers for mind control bullshit, "personal magnetism" or some such. As always with comics, it varies immensely by write and plot convenience. 
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In Fatal Attractions Magneto crushes a guy wrapping his own metal coils around his torso and squeezing
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Low Desert Punk posted:I'm reading the first X-Men issues, and there's a part where Magneto forms a magnetic barrier to keep a group of soldiers confined in one place. Has he ever used this power to just straight up crush someone (or a group of people) by making the barrier smaller and smaller? I've never really read any X-Men, is that even a power he still has? It seems pretty powerful, you could really do just about anything you want with it. In the 2005 limited series follow-up to Age of Apocalypse, four of the Guthrie siblings attack the X-Men as revenge for letting Husk die during the Ilyana Rasputin rescue mission. When they threaten Magneto's kid with Rogue, he shows up late to the fight and snags Cannonball and Icarus in a metal shell. He's trying to contract it to the size of a beach ball when he realizes that Cannonball is nigh invulnerable when blastin', warning Guthrie that he can keep it up longer than Guthrie can. Cannonball gives in and BAM. He's probably done it before and/or since, but that's what I have off the top of my head.
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Wasn't there also a time where Magneto's power set was so ridiculously high that he could manipulate the iron in blood? Like, he didn't even need to wrap metal around dudes, just flay them from the inside?
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Ferrule posted:Wasn't there also a time where Magneto's power set was so ridiculously high that he could manipulate the iron in blood? Like, he didn't even need to wrap metal around dudes, just flay them from the inside? Sure, that's another trick he's used sometimes. He used it in the movie X2 too, although in that case the guy had been specially dosed with an iron supplement to make it a tiny bit more believable. While we're talking about weird Magneto tricks, he's also used his powers to stop the electromagnetic impulses in people's nervous systems, and made himself invisible by magnetically steering photons around himself.
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Jun 22, 2017 14:03
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I tend to be more bothered by all the weird science poo poo Magneto does like make a anti prejudice ray to convince the jury he is a changed man or gentically engineering his own mutants out of test tubes
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Jun 22, 2017 14:10
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Thanks for the answers on the Magneto stuff. I just love stuff like that, I never get tired of comic book writers stretching powers to their absolute limits. Does anybody have any recommendations for Mephisto stories? He was my favorite as a kid because I had a trading card of him, but I've never read a story with him. The only thing I could see is One More Day which I've always heard is poo poo.
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Low Desert Punk posted:Thanks for the answers on the Magneto stuff. I just love stuff like that, I never get tired of comic book writers stretching powers to their absolute limits. He's the villain in Doctor Strange/Doctor Doom: Triumph and Torment, which is pretty good.
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Low Desert Punk posted:Does anybody have any recommendations for Mephisto stories? He was my favorite as a kid because I had a trading card of him, but I've never read a story with him. The only thing I could see is One More Day which I've always heard is poo poo. There's a mini-series from 1987 called Mephisto Vs. - I only read it once way back in the day and I don't recall it being very memorable. It's a 4 issue mini of him against one team per issue - FF, X-Men, Avengers, and X-Factor. I don't believe it's been collected, but on the other hand, you can probably pick up the issues for pretty cheap - if you can find them.
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What's the miniseries where Loki and Mephisto spend the whole time trying to out-Evil Bastard each other, and it ends with Loki marrying the scary undead Asgardian cannibal valkyries? That was a good one.
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There's Infinity Quest, the Infinity Gauntlet prequel in which Mephisto accompanies Thanos as the collects the Infinity Gems and waxes philosophical.
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RandallODim posted:There's Infinity Quest, the Infinity Gauntlet prequel in which Mephisto accompanies Thanos as the collects the Infinity Gems and waxes philosophical. That's Thanos Quest.
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RandallODim posted:There's Infinity Quest, the Infinity Gauntlet prequel in which Mephisto accompanies Thanos as the collects the Infinity Gems and waxes philosophical. Rhyno posted:That's Thanos Quest. Are you sure Mephisto was in that? I don't remember him.
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Mephisto is in Infinity Crusaid where he gets Thanos to promise to give him a Cosmic Cube in exchange for his help. Thanos gives him one and it ends up being one that no longer functions.
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I get all those Infinity Things mixed up, I was sure I was getting that wrong too.
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That Thor Annual with the CM Punk story where Mephisto has a drinking contest with Thor. The Secret Wars 2 tie in where Mephisto wagers that if Spider-Man can overcome that Zarathos or whatever that spirit/demon thing is, and prove the strength of the human spirit, the Beyonder will spare existence from annihilation for twenty four hours.
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Sinners Sandwich posted:I tend to be more bothered by all the weird science poo poo Magneto does like make a anti prejudice ray to convince the jury he is a changed man or gentically engineering his own mutants out of test tubes An anti-prejudice ray? Like that seems incredibly useful. Not to mention that would be the answer to Magneto's eternal question of "will humanity ever accept a minority group like mutants?"
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