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Trade Chat Troll
Jan 22, 2010
Maybe I was dumb to keep trying Grubby's Oracle build? And/or I'm not so good with shields? Who cares now I can release the kraken :krakken:

Trade Chat Troll fucked around with this message at 23:09 on Sep 13, 2017

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Shadowlyger
Nov 5, 2009

ElvUI super fan at your service!

Ask me any and all questions about UI customization via PM

PantsBandit posted:

I almost always take soul stone = increased health regen over spell armor. The spell armor can be nice when you're facing a ton of casters but the health regen at 100 soul stone is just so absurd. You don't even need a healer really, any time you take some damage you can just back off for a little bit and you're back to being a mountain of HP.

On that note, the talent that makes Soulstone increase the heal from fountains and healing globes is also ridiculous.

PantsBandit
Oct 26, 2007

it is both a monkey and a boombox

Shadowlyger posted:

On that note, the talent that makes Soulstone increase the heal from fountains and healing globes is also ridiculous.

I'm about 50/50 on that one. The talent that gives armor on shadow charge is also really great, especially once you can reset it with overpower.

JayMax
Jun 14, 2007

Hard-nosed gentleman

Dietrich posted:

Always take Apocalypse, use it when the other team has been slowed, rooted, or stunned and/or is grouped up so it's difficult to find a safe place to stand in the chaos. It's not an initiation CC it's a pile-on CC.

Apocalypse is really good when you're being engaged on. Either they keep moving forward and their back line gets hit, or they retreat and their front line gets hit, or they scatter and you can jump on a straggler.

John Murdoch
May 19, 2009

I can tune a fish.

PantsBandit posted:

I'm about 50/50 on that one. The talent that gives armor on shadow charge is also really great, especially once you can reset it with overpower.

Shadow Charge has armor naturally, the talent just doubles the duration.

Somewhat related, it took me until today to realize that Tracer's melee smack was an auto-targeted ability. :downs:

appropriatemetaphor
Jan 26, 2006

So when do you use the different Stukov builds? I haven't played many games with him, but have mostly used Grubby's CDR build, which seems solid.

BrianBoitano
Nov 15, 2006

this is fine



Shadowlyger posted:

On that note, the talent that makes Soulstone increase the heal from fountains and healing globes is also ridiculous.

It's 100% bonkers on Braxis, since you're always close to lane + globe generators.

Only if Garrosh is not available, obviously.

lucifirius
Mar 7, 2016

appropriatemetaphor posted:

So when do you use the different Stukov builds? I haven't played many games with him, but have mostly used Grubby's CDR build, which seems solid.

I pretend lurking arm doesn't exist and take the weighted pustule talents instead. I get more damage and slows, and I can focus on healing and smacking with the heavy autos instead.

appropriatemetaphor
Jan 26, 2006

lucifirius posted:

I pretend lurking arm doesn't exist and take the weighted pustule talents instead. I get more damage and slows, and I can focus on healing and smacking with the heavy autos instead.

Yeah I just use it with root talent or if the enemy team groups up. Seems like a big "jump me" sign.

ninguno
Jan 17, 2011
You guys ever seen a "temporary outage of Blizzard services." when trying to log in? I see plenty of people on my friends list currently playing.

edit: of course it started working as soon as i made a post on the internet.

NeurosisHead
Jul 22, 2007

NONONONONONONONONO

ninguno posted:

You guys ever seen a "temporary outage of Blizzard services." when trying to log in? I see plenty of people on my friends list currently playing.

edit: of course it started working as soon as i made a post on the internet.

I had a login queue for the first time ever today.

appropriatemetaphor
Jan 26, 2006

Did an unranked match and the picks went:


Blueso: Tracer

Redsies: Lili, Johanna

Blues: I highlighted Tassadar, the other dude highlighted Uther. But when I locked in Tass he switched to Lunara.

Redso: Greymane, Cassia

Blueso: Guldan, Chen


It seems to me the Guldan should have gone a full support? There are an assload of blinds and he got all salty about Lunara and how we needed "push" and more damage. Although Lunara of course did the most damage despite the blinds. I get what he's saying but in a situation where you have no full support and no tank, shouldn't you do support? And not a third assassin?

We lost of course.

Lprsti99
Apr 7, 2011

Everything's coming up explodey!

Pillbug

appropriatemetaphor posted:

It seems to me the Guldan should have gone a full support? There are an assload of blinds

Well, I mean, blinds don't affect spells, only autoattacks.

E:

vv Okay yeah, that makes more sense, misread it.

Lprsti99 fucked around with this message at 07:04 on Sep 14, 2017

BrianBoitano
Nov 15, 2006

this is fine



Lprsti99 posted:

Well, I mean, blinds don't affect spells, only autoattacks.

Appropriatemetaphor gets that. He was trying to say that the Gul'Dan picked a mage because their DPS wouldn't do poo poo in the face of enemy blinds, so he needed to bring a mage.

Never mind the fact that Lunara blinded doesn't lower her dps much, unless you literally blind her every time she tries to auto anyone, and she misses her AOE thing.

Dire Human
Feb 1, 2013

AH-HA! That's right...

Who's laughing now?

Who's laughing now?



:supaburn: THE BEACONS :supaburn:

appropriatemetaphor
Jan 26, 2006

BrianBoitano posted:

Appropriatemetaphor gets that. He was trying to say that the Gul'Dan picked a mage because their DPS wouldn't do poo poo in the face of enemy blinds, so he needed to bring a mage.

Never mind the fact that Lunara blinded doesn't lower her dps much, unless you literally blind her every time she tries to auto anyone, and she misses her AOE thing.

I think he just really hates Lunara? He said she's only good if you have a lot of slows/cc, but like she can slow people herself? I dunno, this dude like pm'd me after the match defending how great his Guldan pick was.

Gobbeldygook
May 13, 2009
Hates Native American people and tries to justify their genocides.

Put this racist on ignore immediately!

appropriatemetaphor posted:

Blueso: Tracer

Redsies: Lili, Johanna

Blues: I highlighted Tassadar, the other dude highlighted Uther. But when I locked in Tass he switched to Lunara.

Redso: Greymane, Cassia

Blueso: Guldan, Chen
I've never seen such aggressive counterpicking. That poor Tracer :smith:

Mangoose
Dec 11, 2007

Come out with your pants down!

Gobbeldygook posted:

I've never seen such aggressive counterpicking. That poor Tracer :smith:

At least... at least she got a Tassadar... :stonklol:

appropriatemetaphor
Jan 26, 2006

Gobbeldygook posted:

I've never seen such aggressive counterpicking. That poor Tracer :smith:

I forgot they last picked Artanis.

Dietrich
Sep 11, 2001

appropriatemetaphor posted:

I forgot they last picked Artanis.

Why wouldn't they, it's a team that counters 3/4 of your dps and cassia would have extra damage 100% of the time.

Mierenneuker
Apr 28, 2010


We're all going to experience changes in our life but only the best of us will qualify for front row seats.

Something is being teased:
https://twitter.com/BlizzHeroes/status/908374937294876672

New hero? New skin? Hanamura remake? Who knows.

Eraflure
Oct 12, 2012


That's a legendary Twin Blades Varian skin.

Olaf The Stout
Oct 16, 2009

FORUMS NO.1 SLEEPY DAWGS MEMESTER

Mierenneuker posted:

Something is being teased:
https://twitter.com/BlizzHeroes/status/908374937294876672

....Hanamura remake?...

Truly the most terrifying proposition. Please Blizz, cut your losses and scuttle this map. I've never liked the game less than when this map was in heavy rotation.

Yukari
Feb 17, 2011

"That's going in the cringe reel for sure."


Who was the next hero on the leaked spoilers list?

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


*Israeli Government-affiliated poster

Yukari posted:

Who was the next hero on the leaked spoilers list?

Firebat, Ana, Junkrat, Alexstrasza.

Dietrich
Sep 11, 2001

Firebat might accompany some more universe bend skins like Terran Marine Varian.

No Wave
Sep 18, 2005

HA! HA! NICE! WHAT A TOOL!
Varian's Logosh skins are unbelievably bad. Probably the worst skins in the game, and his silly hat skins are pretty hideous as well. Definitely a good candidate for actually getting something cool.

Sindai
Jan 24, 2007
i want to achieve immortality through not dying
Snow and robots make me think Volskaya instead of Hanamura.

But the stones look medieval, so probably not.

Kyrosiris
May 24, 2006

You try to be happy when everyone is summoning you everywhere to "be their friend".



Sindai posted:

Snow and robots make me think Volskaya instead of Hanamura.

But the stones look medieval, so probably not.

Yeah, the stone-work kinda reminds me of Eichenwalde, but that's not a snowy map.

Kurieg
Jul 19, 2012

RIP Lutri: 5/19/20-4/2/20
:blizz::gamefreak:
That's not stonework, that's metal floor plating.

beejay
Apr 7, 2002

It looks like the floor on Volskaya to me. Check this video (360 degree viewing) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aneQ2g0Ngmg&t=56s

First Overwatch map didn't work out let's make another one!

Dietrich
Sep 11, 2001

Volskya industries map, then. With cyber-ninjas varian and illidan for a parry party.

HitTheTargets
Mar 3, 2006

I came here to laugh at you.
Maybe they'll have an Overwatch theme month like Machines of War. Debut Volskaya, redebut Hanamura. Bring out Ana & Trashmouse. Toss in Firebat like MoW tossed in Zarya. And it ends just in time for Blizzcon to announce a giant fuckoff dragon.

No Wave
Sep 18, 2005

HA! HA! NICE! WHAT A TOOL!
Apparently Uther is busted right now. Each hero you hit with W increases the damage of your next W cast by 20%. This or other things have somehow managed to take him to a 54% win rate, second only to Malth.

Cuntellectual
Aug 6, 2010

HitTheTargets posted:

Maybe they'll have an Overwatch theme month like Machines of War. Debut Volskaya, redebut Hanamura. Bring out Ana & Trashmouse. Toss in Firebat like MoW tossed in Zarya. And it ends just in time for Blizzcon to announce a giant fuckoff dragon.

That'd be kinda funny, with the SC event getting a Overwatch hero and an Overwatch event getting a SC one. :v:

BrianBoitano
Nov 15, 2006

this is fine



Playing with tcjimbo is like lion taming. When it works out, you feel a sense of accomplishment. When it doesn't, nobody feels sorry for you because you did this to yourself.

I don't mind playing with tcjimbo but apparently my non-goon friend couldn't handle it and ragequit during our TL game :v:

No Wave posted:

Varian's Logosh skins are unbelievably bad. Probably the worst skins in the game, and his silly hat skins are pretty hideous as well. Definitely a good candidate for actually getting something cool.

You don't like his BDSM choker?

TheLawinator
Apr 13, 2012

Competence on the battlefield is a myth. The side which screws up next to last wins, it's as simple as that.

I remember playing with tcjimbo and having him talk about how we didn't have enough wave clear for the whole game then he rage quit. We went again as 4 and drafted 4 specialists and had our pub last pick garrosh. We won that game so hard it was insane. Tcjimbo is a genius.

TheLawinator fucked around with this message at 23:47 on Sep 14, 2017

DisgracelandUSA
Aug 11, 2011

Yeah, I gets down with the homies

I always enjoyed playing with tcjimbo but then he said I sucked and I shouldn't play this game and he blocked me :smith: I wasn't sad about the mean things he said as much as not being able to play with him cause it's loving hilarious watching him rage.

Mind over Matter
Jun 1, 2007
Four to a dollar.



BrianBoitano posted:

I don't mind playing with tcjimbo but apparently my non-goon friend couldn't handle it and ragequit during our TL game :v:

If you make someone play with tcjimbo you're not their friend.

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Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


*Israeli Government-affiliated poster
Last time I played with tcjimbo, he wouldn't stop talking about how excited he was for some anime starring Jaden Smith, but was upset that they didn't cast professional voice actors instead of celebrities.

Then he got mad that someone drafted a different character than he suggested, because we had apparently accidentally drafted the same team comp as one of the teams at HGC and he wanted the last guy to pick to match it.

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