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IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





That last picture seems uncomfortably close between helicopter and model.

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Dr. Despair
Nov 4, 2009


39 perfect posts with each roll.

IOwnCalculus posted:

That last picture seems uncomfortably close between helicopter and model.

It's almost certainly just perspective distortion from a long telephoto lens.

e. basically this effect

Triggs
Nov 23, 2005

Tango Down!
Thread needs more rotary wing.

babyeatingpsychopath
Oct 28, 2000
Forum Veteran


D C posted:

It was a joke geeze!


In other news, we bought a new camera system in December...



What does hanging big camera equipment off the front do to weight/balance? I know our H-60s were designed with all kinds of stuff in mind that we never installed, so we got to hang steel plates off the nose, but those Bell 206s didn't have that design in mind.

Is there a bunch of ballast in the back? Can you not take passengers anymore? Does the camera system just not weigh all that much?

EightBit
Jan 7, 2006
I spent money on this line of text just to make the "Stupid Newbie" go away.
Well, that photo shows 3 people inside the helicopter, so it can't be that heavy. It's not like you're going to put a steadycam setup on your aircraft and then use it to ferry people around or go on tours.

Raikyn
Feb 22, 2011

I went to an airshow today :)



Raikyn fucked around with this message at 09:05 on Jan 19, 2013

Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

raring to post


This is the most British video ever.

PainterofCrap
Oct 17, 2002

hey bebe



Raikyn posted:

I went to an airshow today :)





Nice shots! The Mossie looks spectacular; nice mix of airframes too. Must've sounded amazing. NZ?

Raikyn
Feb 22, 2011

Yep, NZ.
They had a good variety, mainly WWI & WWII and some early jets as well, plus a few other bits.





Ardeem
Sep 16, 2010

There is no problem that cannot be solved through sufficient application of lasers and friendship.

Hey, Vampires. I always find it weird to see deHavilland rudders on a jet.

Raikyn
Feb 22, 2011

Biggish static shot of the mossie before it went up

http://www.flickr.com/photos/raikyn/8396946072/sizes/o/in/photostream/

They've done a pretty good job on it.

FullMetalJacket
Apr 5, 2008
mossie's sure are soft on the eye. always liked em

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.

Cygni posted:

This is the most British video ever.
If a Brit ever tells you that they have A Cunning Plan, that's the point to surreptitiously look at the person next to you and mutter "Uh-oh" under your breath.

InitialDave fucked around with this message at 22:06 on Jan 20, 2013

ctishman
Apr 26, 2005

Oh Giraffe you're havin' a laugh!

Cygni posted:

This is the most British video ever.

"He lived on a diet of bacon sandwiches and pipe tobacco."

Confirmed.

Mike-o
Dec 25, 2004

Now I'm in your room
And I'm in your bed


Grimey Drawer
I don't care what anyone thinks, the F-22 is sexy as hell.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Asu7Cv9zKqI

Maybe not so much with those external tanks, but who cares.

~Coxy
Dec 9, 2003

R.I.P. Inter-OS Sass - b.2000AD d.2003AD

Preoptopus posted:

Can anyone recommend any good RAF documentaries?

Ewan MacGregor and his brother have done at least two I've seen, one about the Spitfire and one about the Lancaster.

ctishman
Apr 26, 2005

Oh Giraffe you're havin' a laugh!
Anyone have a working non-Youtube link to that Lufthansa SFO approach video that was up a few days back? Some German media conglomerate killjoy made the copyright complaint rounds on most of 'em.

ctishman fucked around with this message at 03:19 on Jan 22, 2013

Fender Anarchist
May 20, 2009

Fender Anarchist

Saw a V-22 hovering around Orlando on Friday. Looked like it was headed toward ORL. Was there some event I don't know about that would give it cause to be here?

Ridge_Runner_5
May 26, 2011

by Y Kant Ozma Post

Mike-o posted:

I don't care what anyone thinks, the F-22 is sexy as hell.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Asu7Cv9zKqI

Maybe not so much with those external tanks, but who cares.

Speaking of; F-35. What is the point in having a stealth aircraft if the only way it can do it's job is by hanging a bunch of not stealthy poo poo on external hardpoints? Has anyone in the military asked this yet?

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?

Ridge_Runner_5 posted:

Speaking of; F-35. What is the point in having a stealth aircraft if the only way it can do it's job is by hanging a bunch of not stealthy poo poo on external hardpoints? Has anyone in the military asked this yet?

Nobody above the rank of major, I think. Plenty of junior officers, though.

Plinkey
Aug 4, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

Mike-o posted:

I don't care what anyone thinks, the F-22 is sexy as hell.


Maybe not so much with those external tanks, but who cares.

I was always a fan of the YF-23.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQi-IaFO3kk

Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

raring to post

Ridge_Runner_5 posted:

Speaking of; F-35. What is the point in having a stealth aircraft if the only way it can do it's job is by hanging a bunch of not stealthy poo poo on external hardpoints? Has anyone in the military asked this yet?

It has internal carry for stealth ops. The theory is you have a stealth plane until youve beat them into powder, then you strap on JDAMS and go to bomb truckin' work. Not saying its the best idea or not, but thats the idea.

Either way, everyone in a involved country better be pulling for the F-35. We're way past the point of return on this.

GI Joe jobs
Jun 25, 2005

🎅🤜🤛👷
From reddit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZtW06NrTm8

Jesus loving christ.

Edit: Watching that a few times, I'm skeptical that wasn't somewhat planned.

GI Joe jobs fucked around with this message at 07:43 on Jan 22, 2013

HandlingByJebus
Jun 21, 2009

All of a sudden, I found myself in love with the world, so there was only one thing I could do:
was ding a ding dang, my dang a long racecar.

It's a love affair. Mainly jebus, and my racecar.

Gullous posted:

From reddit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZtW06NrTm8

Jesus loving christ.

Edit: Watching that a few times, I'm skeptical that wasn't somewhat planned.

Seems likely that it was planned. Does that mean you wouldn't have screamed like a little girl? I sure would have.

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?
I think it may have been planned as in "I'm gonna fly pretty close to you!" not "I'm going to fly close enough to grab your wallet!"

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

I think most people were, except for the ones with the final say and a bucket full of Lockmart stock.

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

This could have turned out a hell of a lot worse than it did

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvbS-oHi9ro

The Ferret King
Nov 23, 2003

cluck cluck
The pilot's description of the sequence in the associated video is great too:

http://youtu.be/TT1QGG1510w

ctishman posted:

Anyone have a working non-Youtube link to that Lufthansa SFO approach video that was up a few days back? Some German media conglomerate killjoy made the copyright complaint rounds on most of 'em.

Try this link:

http://www.wimp.com/approachlanding/

The Ferret King fucked around with this message at 19:07 on Jan 22, 2013

KYOON GRIFFEY JR
Apr 12, 2010



Runner-up, TRP Sack Race 2021/22
That video is super fuckin cool, and it's got germans being as german as possible for an added bonus.

ctishman
Apr 26, 2005

Oh Giraffe you're havin' a laugh!

Much appreciated!

Nostalgia4Infinity
Feb 27, 2007

10,000 YEARS WASN'T ENOUGH LURKING
The F-22 looks like a fat toad. Especially when it's sitting on the ground.

Mike-o
Dec 25, 2004

Now I'm in your room
And I'm in your bed


Grimey Drawer

Blistex posted:

I think most people were, except for the ones with the final say and a bucket full of Lockmart stock.

I just like the F-22 because growing up I didn't even know about the YF-23. My first exposure to the F-22 was through Novalogic flight sims. I didn't even know that the YF-23 was a thing until a couple years ago when I got back into airplanes and flightsims :negative:

PainterofCrap
Oct 17, 2002

hey bebe



slidebite posted:

This could have turned out a hell of a lot worse than it did

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvbS-oHi9ro

Urk. Isn't the recovery sequence full right rudder/full elevator until the nose drops into a axial spin?

Lucky bastard even so.

(edit) lifted from here: http://www.pprune.org/archive/index.php/t-235541.html

From Flight Unlimited by Eric Muller and Annette Carson - paraphrased.

Throttle closed - most important

Stick back and 'in' to the spin.

Opposite rudder.

When the rotation stops bring the stick central and neutral, recover, take pants to cleaners !

The Muller/Beggs recovery works for nearly all standard aeroplanes and spins and is let go of the stick and rudder, press fully on the rudder pedal that floats toward you, as the rotation stops, catch the stick as it moves from rear left or right to central.


There was also a general consensus that, if you've got altitude (time), get as much mass forward as possible, and that the further behind the CG the axis of spin is, the more likely you're screwed.

PainterofCrap fucked around with this message at 02:59 on Jan 23, 2013

Nerobro
Nov 4, 2005

Rider now with 100% more titanium!
Sure, that's what they prescribe, but his elevator and rudder were not behaving as control surfaces, just flat plates. The only bits that were moving fast enough to provide any aerodynamic action were the alerions.

ctishman
Apr 26, 2005

Oh Giraffe you're havin' a laugh!
This gentleman seems to take things in stride.

ehnus
Apr 16, 2003

Now you're thinking with portals!

I had the same thing happen to me when I was working on my PPL. He was descending from above and behind with an extra 10-15 knots while I was entering the control zone and came about that close to me. Neither I, my instructor were too happy about it but there wasn't anything we could do but fly the airplane.

iyaayas01
Feb 19, 2010

Perry'd

Mike-o posted:

I don't care what anyone thinks, the F-22 is sexy as hell.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Asu7Cv9zKqI

Maybe not so much with those external tanks, but who cares.

If you ever get a chance to see the airshow demo in person, do it. An aircraft should not be physically capable of doing the things it does in that demo.

Now instead of seeing that every day at work, I get to see this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBDq264OH0E

I got semi-excited the other day when a C-17 on short final flew over me. A C-17.

:suicide:

Godholio posted:

Nobody above the rank of major, I think. Plenty of junior officers, though.

There's a couple of terminal majors and lt cols that have written pieces asking exactly that question...of course, key word there is "terminal."


Welcome to flying with Australians.

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?

iyaayas01 posted:

There's a couple of terminal majors and lt cols that have written pieces asking exactly that question...of course, key word there is "terminal."


Questioning stupidity is not the path to promotion, that's for sure. Just the tummy tape.

SybilVimes
Oct 29, 2011

Nostalgia4Infinity posted:

The F-22 looks like a fat toad. Especially when it's sitting on the ground.

I suppose it's not quite as ugly as the Boeing JSF entry (the X-32) but still, it's an ugly plane.

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drgitlin
Jul 25, 2003
luv 2 get custom titles from a forum that goes into revolt when its told to stop using a bad word.

Cygni posted:


Either way, everyone in a involved country better be pulling for the F-35. We're way past the point of return on this.

That really is the textbook definition of a sunk cost fallacy.

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