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Happy Sisyphus
Nov 13, 2013

You take the blue paarp - the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red paarp - you stay in pre-alpha, and I show you how deep the sperg wallet goes.

how much would you guys pledge if you had to do so to keep this thread going and you believed genuinely that lowtax really needed your money to make this the best thread possible?

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Kavak
Aug 23, 2009


Just this thread?

I'd just stick with pgabz videos.

VealCutlet
Dec 21, 2015

I am a marketing god, shave that shit

Happy Sisyphus posted:

how much would you guys pledge if you had to do so to keep this thread going and you believed genuinely that lowtax really needed your money to make this the best thread possible?

10 Rupees

D_Smart
May 11, 2010

by FactsAreUseless
College Slice

EightAce posted:

The industry is a very small place....despite it employing thousands of people world wide , there is only really a small amount that control it and have any real clout. Someone on here , I know who , but no hard feelings whatsoever, pasted some of my more predictive posts on Chaos engine, in an industry only forum where there is much speculation and hilarity from people that really do know what they are talking about. The whole industry is laughing their collective sexual organs off at the whole thing. But there are exceptions. Most noticeably one Evangelical young man who is so brainwashed that he will not hear a word said against CIG, the project or the management.
Because of this , much of what is discussed here has circulated among the dev staff. I would say 60% think it hilarious, stick it to them etc. 20% Im sure are making GBS threads themselves in case they have any connection to me and 10% are determined to track me and any other dissenters down like wild beast's, and present our pelt's before the Stimporer and his consort.
Thing is they are now running on fumes both figuratively and ideologically. People realize that this is doomed including the press who are contacting people left right and center. I still maintain that this is NOT a scam and even now in the dying days of Rome the brains-trust still really and truly believe that if they show enough shiny JPEGS and trailers for SQ42 then they will get over this and still produce the BDSSE.

Things to look for soon ......

There are 3 trailers . Best one has Craig Fairbrass in he is pretty awesome..one will be released soon. The Stimporer is being selective

Apparently one of the A listers is not happy at all about being associated with this gently caress up and is currently seeking distance. ........a lot of distance .......off grid physics distance.

The animation system is so hosed they have to reshoot mo cap......The budget set aside for this element of the game has over run by 12 times the initial estimate !!

Chris is really pissed about ED I mean really pissed. Its everyone fault but his of course

This forum and any forum that has any SC content is read by paid peons CONFIRMED. To be fair , they do adjust policy (with regards public facing issues ) in response. So.....
No more of that fake news report bollocks, more dev interviews etc. This in itself is amazing

Ben is actually in a really bad way. I am not taking the piss here but please remember he is a human being and is clearly in a lot of trouble .

3 ! Yes 3 high profile ship jumpers in the foreseeable.

There have also been some rather explosive conversations behind the scenes with some very disgruntled top tier Wales. there is a genuine concern that these people band together ........

Other than that its business as usual: The Vanduul are up for a rethink by the looks of it as they didn't go across as impressively as was required. Slight concerns about scale/ships are now becoming real panic blockers and the blame game has begun. SQ42 Ep 1 or 10000 will be here next year , late next year .

For anyone that still has money in this, if what they want is a visually impressive but really boring first person dog fighting game running at 3 fps with loads or terrible and I mean loving terrible cutscenes then sit tight it may still happen and you will be very happy.

Anyone that bought into this for an open world alternate reality where you can roam the verse and be who you want to be, farming and raping and grieifng and parkouring etc . I suggest that you rethink your investment..... and be loving quick about it

At ease commandos

Well, I've just heard that they are aware of this post (my source tells me they saw it on MMORPG, not here) and that they are probably going to change their reveal planning; similar to what they did over the ship name released through Beer. Oh well. This is the down side of these reveals. But the hilarious thing is that they don't have anything remotely complete to replace this "reveal" with. LOL!!

Happy Sisyphus
Nov 13, 2013

You take the blue paarp - the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red paarp - you stay in pre-alpha, and I show you how deep the sperg wallet goes.

Kavak posted:

Just this thread?

I'd just stick with pgabz videos.

this thread and all content from it is contingent upon its existence

Daztek
Jun 2, 2006



AP posted:



Yesterday wasn't a fluke, sale is poor, they'll be hoping to pick up at the weekend, maybe push something special on Friday to generate buzz.

Yeah, a new ship commercial :v: And Lesnick said on the forums the Starfarer will get a price increase when it goes on sale again

orcinus
Feb 25, 2016

Fun Shoe

Happy Sisyphus posted:

how much would you guys pledge if you had to do so to keep this thread going and you believed genuinely that lowtax really needed your money to make this the best thread possible?

2 anus jars and a belt.

eonwe
Aug 11, 2008



Lipstick Apathy

D_Smart posted:

Well, I've just heard that they are aware of this post (my source tells me they saw it on MMORPG, not here) and that they are probably going to change their reveal planning; similar to what they did over the ship name released through Beer. Oh well. This is the down side of these reveals. But the hilarious thing is that they don't have anything remotely complete to replace this "reveal" with. LOL!!

lmao, didn't they name the ship Potato or something, making it obvious that they changed the name

Kavak
Aug 23, 2009


Happy Sisyphus posted:

this thread and all content from it is contingent upon its existence

Fine, $4000 Zimbabwean.

Einbauschrank
Nov 5, 2009


What SC lacked, was a mini game to reenact the 2008 financial crisis. Mezzanine financing, CDS, toxic JPEGs. Thanks, Crobbers!

AP
Jul 12, 2004

One Ring to fool them all
One Ring to find them
One Ring to milk them all
and pockets fully line them
Grimey Drawer

Daztek posted:

Yeah, a new ship commercial :v: And Lesnick said on the forums the Starfarer will get a price increase when it goes on sale again

Has that been confirmed? The Retaliator was meant to get the next commercial, I think it was a stretchgoal.

Daztek
Jun 2, 2006



Star Citizen, literally created by SA Goons and Derek Smart

Einbauschrank
Nov 5, 2009

Crap. Was drinking too much apple wine while playing E:D. Therefore: Double shitpost.

Daztek
Jun 2, 2006



AP posted:

Has that been confirmed? The Retaliator was meant to get the next commercial, I think it was a stretchgoal.

A Neurotic Jew posted an image a page back I think

Tippis
Mar 21, 2008

It's yet another day in the wasteland.

Einbauschrank posted:

Crap. Was drinking too much apple wine while playing E:D. Therefore: Double shitpost.

“Crap”? That word makes no sense in the context of the rest of your post.

D_Smart
May 11, 2010

by FactsAreUseless
College Slice

Happy Sisyphus posted:

how much would you guys pledge if you had to do so to keep this thread going and you believed genuinely that lowtax really needed your money to make this the best thread possible?

That's a trick question.

orcinus
Feb 25, 2016

Fun Shoe

Eonwe posted:

lmao, didn't they name the ship Potato or something, making it obvious that they changed the name

Star Citizen: Battleship Potato

D_Smart
May 11, 2010

by FactsAreUseless
College Slice
That time when someone asked about croberts pledge to spend backer money on development

It's right here:

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/funding-goals

quote:

As a crowd funded project, Star Citizen's scope is based directly on the support provided by our backers. Money pledged goes directly to the game's development.

Stretch goals listed here are intended to reward early backers and to indicate how we are achieving Star Citizen's full vision.

and implied here:

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/the-pledge

and here:

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/14184-Letter-From-The-Chairman

quote:

I have a lot of industry friends pat me on the back and say, “Wow, it must be so great to be operating in profit even before you ship!” Their look usually turns to incredulity when I explain that my intention is for all the money we bring in before launch to be spent on development.

and here:

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/14839-Letter-From-The-Chairman

quote:

This is all being made possible by your enthusiasm and support. As we promised since the start of the campaign, we invest every dollar raised into the game. Anyone with knowledge about game development can assess our spending based on the information we share every month. It speaks for itself that from the outset our TOS provides for an accounting to be published if we ever had to stop development before delivering. With the progress and the funds we’ve raised this is no longer an issue, but quite obviously we wouldn’t have provided for this clause, if we weren’t using your funds very carefully for the development of Star Citizen.

even quoted here:

http://www.pcgamer.com/chris-roberts-speaks-out-on-star-citizen-complaints/

Viscous Soda
Apr 24, 2004

Jason Sextro posted:

I'm trying to imagine designing and building an industrial facility with a 100 million dollar budget with no planning and flying entirely by the seat of one's pants

it's not a nice thought

That's something I've been wondering about : is Crobberts aware of how hosed everything is, or is he blissfully unaware that CIG is in a nosedive?

G0RF
Mar 19, 2015

Some galactic defender you are, Space Cadet.

AP posted:



Yesterday wasn't a fluke, sale is poor, they'll be hoping to pick up at the weekend, maybe push something special on Friday to generate buzz.
They did that wink-wink, nudge-nudge about a Friday reveal but I wonder if that means surprise ship sale, new PU addition (the sales floor!), more trailer porn, or something else? (It's times like these CIG actually creates real suspense so good on them.)

I'm also really curious if a lackluster ship sale even bothers Chris/Sandi/Ben. If they have more money than we think they can shrug it off. If they're sensitive to the monthly cashflow, though, I'd be getting a bit nervous. Delusory though the Roberts are, I'm sure there's at least that nagging voice in their back of their minds, "What if this stops working? What then?"

Addition: just saw Daztek's reveal-- trailer porn it is!

G0RF fucked around with this message at 01:43 on Mar 24, 2016

Happy Sisyphus
Nov 13, 2013

You take the blue paarp - the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red paarp - you stay in pre-alpha, and I show you how deep the sperg wallet goes.

G0RF posted:

new PU addition (the sales floor!)

i would be so happy

Lack of Gravitas
Oct 11, 2012

Grimey Drawer

Jason Sextro posted:

I'm trying to imagine designing and building an industrial facility with a 100 million dollar budget with no planning and flying entirely by the seat of one's pants

it's not a nice thought

"The building was originally going to be a six-story parking garage, with shops on the ground floor serving passing pedestrian traffic. However, as investors continued funding the project, I decided to expand the scope, at first adding more commercial space to the lower levels, before later deciding to add residential floors, raising the six-stories to twenty-stories.

This meant gutting the work already done in order to excavate more sound foundations. But as time went by and funding continued, I saw I would be able to build something truely special - something to rival the Burj Khalifa.

Of course, going from twenty floors to over one-hundred-and-sixty floors meant a few changes along the way. By that stage it was too late to gut the building again and start over, so as one set of contractors were adding levels above ground, another set were digging the foundations deeper and deeper. It's something that has never been done before but I don't forsee any problems coming from it."

-- Statement by Roberto Christo, Architect, shortly before his disappearance.


In a statement to authorities, Adam Goonne, Project Manager for Eight-Aces Construction, said he hadn't seen Roberto since he inspected the freshly-poured concrete pilings for the new foundations. Police are not treating Roberto's disappearance as suspicious.

The public will be able to view the scribbled-on paper napkins that comprise the full set of architectural plans Roberto had made, once the investigation into the collapse is complete.

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

D_Smart posted:

Yes. They're actively trying to identify him. They never will. Like ever.

Because it's Chris's alter ego. Like fight club.

I can't wait for this thing to collapse into a giant heap. I've got a folder that holds all the goon/reddit/user/etc stuff that's been made over the YEARS of star citizen development.

I can't wait to flood all the Star Citizen forums with this stuff to rub salt in the wound as the accusations fly and the news media interviews as smug Derek Smart.

orcinus
Feb 25, 2016

Fun Shoe

D_Smart posted:

That time when someone asked about croberts pledge to spend backer money on development

quote:

With the progress and the funds we’ve raised this is no longer an issue, but quite obviously we wouldn’t have provided for this clause, if we weren’t using your funds very carefully for the development of Star Citizen.

Well, he's right, they're using the funds very carefully for development of Star Citizen.
And less carefully when buying coke, Porsches, espresso machines, murals and first class tickets.

Also:

quote:

Anyone with knowledge about game development can assess our spending based on the information we share every month.

:laffo:

A Neurotic Jew
Feb 17, 2012

by exmarx
to maximize the impact of the (probable) new starfarer commercial...a price hike!

https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/comment/6493238/#Comment_6493238

G0RF
Mar 19, 2015

Some galactic defender you are, Space Cadet.

Happy Sisyphus posted:

how much would you guys pledge if you had to do so to keep this thread going and you believed genuinely that lowtax really needed your money to make this the best thread possible?
I'd kick in-- but it would be nice to see some additional features added to make it easier to read.

JainDoh
Nov 5, 2002

This thread has ballooned WAY past its initial scope.

Einbauschrank
Nov 5, 2009

A Neurotic Jew posted:

to maximize the impact of the (probable) new starfarer commercial...a price hike!

https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/comment/6493238/#Comment_6493238


Little do they know that only the procedural bird will get the worm.

eonwe
Aug 11, 2008



Lipstick Apathy

A Neurotic Jew posted:

to maximize the impact of the (probable) new starfarer commercial...a price hike!

https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/comment/6493238/#Comment_6493238


man he is a piece of poo poo

MeLKoR
Dec 23, 2004

by FactsAreUseless

orcinus posted:

I'm kinda newish here, and this will likely sound like a circlejerk post, but...

I really, honestly find it insanely awesome that i happen to somehow share almost exact scifi taste as a bunch of people i don't know, gathered around a thread devoted to making fun out of a lovely game.

I mean. I go to scifi cons (or used to, not much time for that poo poo nowadays) and even there, it's pretty hard to find someone with that many similarities in book tastes, unless they were "inner circle" friends etc. Looking at the posts in the past few pages, though, it looks like we're mostly all a match, with tiny bones of contention.

Crazy stuff.

Over the years I've noticed that sense of humor is a great signifier for a lot of other tastes/personality quirks, better than age or class. The closer the sense of humor of two persons match the higher the odds that they will share the same taste in other stuff.

Dusty Lens
Jul 1, 2015

All Glory unto the Stimpire. Give up your arms and legs and embrace the beautiful agony of electricity that doubles in pain every second.

Eonwe posted:

man he is a piece of poo poo

I like that the natural impulse of the thread is to gravitate back towards pitying the man who is killing himself day by day before our very eyes eyes until he opens his mouth and we're all reminded of what a piece of poo poo he is.

Dapper Dan
Dec 16, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 3 years!

AP posted:



Yesterday wasn't a fluke, sale is poor, they'll be hoping to pick up at the weekend, maybe push something special on Friday to generate buzz.

We just might be witnessing the beginning of a cascade failure, in which everything continually fails, tumbling down and down in which nothing can be done to rectify its inevitable collapse. The fact that they haven't prepared for the most obvious event in crowd funding (people stop giving you money no matter what you offer) is pretty loving hilarious. But typical.

But to be honest, the whole thing is pretty Shakespearean. Like, it is a parable that can appeal to anyone outside of game design. See:

A man is viewed as a visionary, a legend in his field. A great man. Under the surface, however, it is a fraud. A fraud that few know, and it has been so long that the truth of it doesn't even matter, the fiction has become the reality. And pretty much it looks like it'll stay that way, not even mattering. His product is beloved by millions, no one is wronged by the lie and the truth is only ugly, while the lie is something beautiful. Until the man himself buys into the fiction people made for him than his own truth.

He uses his legendary status to exploit the weak, those who have always worshiped the legend and never saw beyond the man. For support to craft something even more legendary than his previous endeavor, and make history. And for awhile, it works. But the man demands more and more from his followers, making them commit many resources than necessary and squanders them. Believing in his own brilliance, he cuts loose anyone who might overshadow him. He berates and demands arbitrary changes because he is the legend, he is that great man. Others know nothing. He practices nepotism and allows for uncontrolled excesses, all the while believing in his reputation. His project expands in scope, exceeding beyond the bounds of the rational. He views other, competing works with jealousy and demands radical changes to his own to mimic and exceed their features. There's room for only one legend. The goals of the project fade from his mind and he forgets why he was doing it. All he cares about is his legacy and his legend.

However, things fall apart. Everything comes crumbling down. He has lost everything given to him on good faith and it is revealed how foolishly and fruitlessly he squandered them. The legend is exposed as a fraud, and all of his previous successes are destroyed around him. He finds that his only legacy is that of the blithering fool, the incompetent. And that's the only way he will be remembered in his field, as a cautionary tale. Not of a visionary to be followed.

Its a pretty compelling story and you don't need to know anything about videogames or videogame development to grasp it.

JainDoh
Nov 5, 2002

ben lesnick is like breaking bad but with grease instead of selling drugs

runsamok
Jan 12, 2011

Guys, Ben isn't a piece of poo poo, let's be real.

He's more of a pile of poo poo.

Xaerael
Aug 25, 2010

Marching Powder is objectively the worst poster known. He also needs to learn how a keyboard works.

runsamok posted:

Guys, Ben isn't a piece of poo poo, let's be real.

He's more of a pile of poo poo.

Pile infers there's some sort of order.

Heap of poo poo.

Tippis
Mar 21, 2008

It's yet another day in the wasteland.


If you say so…

Plural Abysss
Feb 25, 2016
When ur paycheck bounces but ur boss still driving a Porsche

Plural Abysss fucked around with this message at 02:18 on Mar 24, 2016

Ash1138
Sep 29, 2001

Get up, chief. We're just gettin' started.

A Neurotic Jew posted:

to maximize the impact of the (probable) new starfarer commercial...a price hike!

https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/comment/6493238/#Comment_6493238

Passenger travel? TO WHERE?? TO DO WHAT, EXACTLY??

Kavak
Aug 23, 2009


Tippis posted:

If you say so…


:roflolmao:

Now put Smart's face on the soldier that stabs the baby.

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Wrecked Angle
May 12, 2012

"JURASSIC PARK!"

A Neurotic Jew posted:

to maximize the impact of the (probable) new starfarer commercial...a price hike!

https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/comment/6493238/#Comment_6493238


Click the above link to see nerds arguing about whether a boring spaceship in a(n unreleased) computer game is worth $200 or $350

Edit: Bonus laughs from the people pointing out that the ship as made is exactly the size they've always said it would be, not 'made giant' by Foundry 42. Turns out 90m is pretty big yo! *eyes ship that is 5x the size nervously*

Wrecked Angle fucked around with this message at 02:23 on Mar 24, 2016

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