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predicto posted:I live in a very blue area, but I have never heard of a single young person who watches Fox News. They don't even watch TV other than Netflix. they're not watching fox news (yet), they're watching crowder, shapiro, and jordan peterson wreck college feminists on youtube
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cool dance moves posted:I'm the vintage machine gun in the background im the poo poo cannon front amd center
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Aug 14, 2019 23:47
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Mr Interweb posted:here's ben trying to clarify that he meant something that sounded less lovely: the minimum wage doesn’t exist???
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Aug 14, 2019 23:48
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Al! posted:gen z's problem is that their generation will be entirely insanely economically disadvantaged in a way that even millennials won't understand, not that they're all secret nazis because of youtube and twitch or whatever you olds
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Aug 14, 2019 23:50
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go check out alt right twitter for like two minutes, its full of (largely white and male, but not exclusively) zoomers. even if theres serious astroturfing going on, the engagement is there in huge numbers
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Aug 14, 2019 23:52
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Every gen has it's own dumb world to contend with while growing up but I still refuse to take any high school boys angry no-girls-allowed politics seriously. If it wasn't that it'd be some other not-very-well-thought-out idiotic form of expressing the inner turmoil caused by not getting to gently caress.
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Aug 14, 2019 23:54
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That said, youtube is very bad and dumb and recommendations and the addiction psychology behind them should not be a thing.
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Aug 14, 2019 23:55
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twitter is not real life
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Intel&Sebastian posted:Every gen has it's own dumb world to contend with while growing up but I still refuse to take any high school boys angry no-girls-allowed politics seriously. If it wasn't that it'd be some other not-very-well-thought-out idiotic form of expressing the inner turmoil caused by not getting to gently caress. Yeah but they shoot up churches and walmarts now so you do kind of have to pay attention
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Aug 14, 2019 23:56
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twitter is real life what. unless you think it’s like bots are something
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"twitter is not real life" I yell as the entire stock market rises and falls on a trump tweet and some guy decides to blow up a synagogue after reading nothing but ben shapiro tweets for a year straight
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Aug 14, 2019 23:58
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media propaganda doesn't work that way on kids. like the 12-year-old conservative kid the vast majority will realize it's dumb once they go to college or interact with ppl in the real world. the ones trapped in that bubble are sad sack incel sociopaths probe to murder, sure, but by definition, only a small portion of a population is incel propaganda works most robustly on ppl who want to believe it, it's something you need to choose to believe contrary to the evidence in front of your face.
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Aug 15, 2019 00:07
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Generations do not exist
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Wolfsheim posted:Yeah but they shoot up churches and walmarts now so you do kind of have to pay attention We should absolutely take seriously the way young men are being radicalized by this dumb poo poo, but I mean in the long term. I don't believe we're gonna see any appreciable jump in the market share of lifelong die-hard Republicans in the population because of them. They're just doing this instead of reading Ayn Rand in the lunchroom now.
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cargo cult posted:go check out alt right twitter for like two minutes, its full of (largely white and male, but not exclusively) zoomers. even if theres serious astroturfing going on, the engagement is there in huge numbers Yeah and all they have is online spaces. They don't actually hang out anywhere else unless you mean the 12 guys at atomwaffen summer camp, so of course you can see big numbers. How much bigger is the number of people who hate nazis? And also yeah, there's a lot of bots, you can buy views/retweets and such things very easily. Mr Interweb posted:they're not watching fox news (yet), they're watching crowder, shapiro, and jordan peterson wreck college feminists on youtube There are an incredible amount of boomers in there.
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Aug 15, 2019 00:11
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No president has ever needed twitter to do all the dumb poo poo Trump does. Every single one of them was just as capable of body blowing the markets by saying something into a microphone instead of having an intern punch it into a phone. They just didn't because they weren't sundowning fox news grandpas who didn't know how anything in govt works. Most people aren't on twitter, like 1/3rd of the accounts on twitter actually use it everyday, an even smaller portion of those are die-hard politicos, an even smaller portion of that are high school right wingers. Some extremely tiny portion of the entire site makes the vast majority of tweets. Twitter is a social media site, it's very stupid and makes people think real life is like twitter but it's not.
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Aug 15, 2019 00:15
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Wolfsheim posted:"twitter is not real life" I yell as the entire stock market rises and falls on a trump tweet and some guy decides to blow up a synagogue after reading nothing but ben shapiro tweets for a year straight the stock market also isn't real life
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https://twitter.com/RobertTGarrett/status/1161658048311676929
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Aug 15, 2019 00:20
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twitter is just like any social gathering place. Just with a wider audience than most people can access, this whole convo is a weird and pointless rationalization
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Aug 15, 2019 00:22
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Intel&Sebastian posted:That said, youtube is very bad and dumb and recommendations and the addiction psychology behind them should not be a thing. youtube owns hard sorry, fail comps/old commercials/horror movie trailers/documentaries inject it into my veins
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Aug 15, 2019 00:23
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Mr Interweb posted:they're not watching fox news (yet), they're watching crowder, shapiro, and jordan peterson wreck college feminists on youtube A lot fewer of them than you think. Mocking incels and the alt-right seems to be far more prevalent. (at least around me)
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Aug 15, 2019 00:31
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this convo is so boomer brained lol i guess generation theory really is fake
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Aug 15, 2019 00:33
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CharlestheHammer posted:twitter is just like any social gathering place. Just with a wider audience than most people can access, this whole convo is a weird and pointless rationalization It's more skewed than your average social gathering place. Every single Ben Shapiro teen weirdo is going to be on twitter because he primarily exists online and caters to people who exist online and they post incessantly wherever they can. They are vastly outnumbered by kids who don't think Captain Marvel is destroying America and don't but that doesn't carry any real requirement or encouragement to be posting online all day about it.
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~watches a PragerU video~ Oh no no...oh god....~arm involuntary starts heiling~ no no what's happening to meeeeeeee~tiny mustache grows~nooooooooooo For every dork who watches 400 of those "BEN SHAPIRO EPICALLY OWNS SJW LIBTARDS" videos is 10,000 who just watch loving Markiplier/FailArmy/Binging with Barbish, etc. Even loving Pewdiepie's fanbase is generally just people who meme about stupid bullshit and not virulently racists. This gimmick of acting like Youtube is this nightmarish hellscape of Nazis is boomer as all hell. OldTennisCourt has issued a correction as of 00:37 on Aug 15, 2019 |
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Aug 15, 2019 00:35
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there is no way you know that, you can’t generalize a generation for that for good or ill
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Mr Interweb posted:they're not watching fox news (yet), they're watching crowder, shapiro, and jordan peterson wreck college feminists on youtube Crowder's base is all olds, same with Shapiro. Peterson's cult will die when he does, killed by a poo poo diet. The kids aren't altright.
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Aug 15, 2019 00:40
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It's just C-Spam's normal 'everything is awful forever, the future is bad and awful and will be worse than now, we're all gonna die oh god'
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Dixie Cretin Seaman posted:media propaganda doesn't work that way on kids. like the 12-year-old conservative kid the vast majority will realize it's dumb once they go to college or interact with ppl in the real world. the ones trapped in that bubble are sad sack incel sociopaths probe to murder, sure, but by definition, only a small portion of a population is incel there are roughly equal amounts of republicans and democrats currently. if the vietnam war didn't help destroy republicanism, a few lower division humanities classes sure as hell won't either
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Aug 15, 2019 00:44
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It's a lot less anecdotal than saying "I'm seeing a lot of online high school kids posting about online guy Ben Shapiro!". It's just numbers. There's not enough people actually using twitter, period, to say it's representative of anything in the US. If it was then every single trending hashtag list for the day would be the nightly news. To think you're getting an even better view when you drill that all the way down to a subsection like high school kids is dumb as hell. Intel&Sebastian has issued a correction as of 00:48 on Aug 15, 2019 |
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I mean it’s better than your nothing let’s be fair
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OldTennisCourt posted:It's just C-Spam's normal 'everything is awful forever, the future is bad and awful and will be worse than now, we're all gonna die oh god' i'm not necessarily arguing that we're destined for the apocalypse, but just trying to point out we'll be cycling through the same poo poo for decades unless something crazy happens
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Algund Eenboom posted:Generations do not exist this is a hot take what do you call your age and experience cohort instead of your generation?
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Al! posted:this convo is so boomer brained lol i guess generation theory really is fake
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CharlestheHammer posted:I mean it’s better than your nothing let’s be fair Twitter as whole is pretty good at figuring out what people who are online too much care about. Anything else? Not really. I wasn't aware this was any sort of controversial view. My nothing is literally any other type of polling with a semblance of science applied. Such as: https://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2019/01/17/generation-z-looks-a-lot-like-millennials-on-key-social-and-political-issues/
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They left out the part where abbot winked and then told them to keep on keeping on terrorizing minority communities
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OldTennisCourt posted:~watches a PragerU video~ I can attest to meeting more than a few woke Gen Z girls who were also pewdiepie watchers, like playing his mobile game and that poo poo. The thing with his racist signalling is that its low-key to the point that nobody fuckin cares enough to see it. CharlestheHammer posted:I mean it’s better than your nothing let’s be fair Yeah wild theories are always better in absence of rational though
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Aug 15, 2019 00:53
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Groovelord Neato posted:idiots and young people think because he speaks quickly and recites statistics devoid of context he's smart. I love the way everybody laughs at him and he just speeds up
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Intel&Sebastian posted:Twitter as whole is pretty good at figuring out what people who are online too much care about. Anything else? Not really. I wasn't aware this was any sort of controversial view. My nothing is literally any other type of polling with a semblance of science applied. Such as: lol even the study hedges it’s bets
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Aug 15, 2019 00:54
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Alt-right nerdos are inherently more represented online because that's where it comes from. You might as well be shocked that there's a lot more electronics nerds than football fans talking to eachother over HAM radio.
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CharlestheHammer posted:lol even the study hedges it’s bets It's a lot better than your nothing
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