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imo mulligan coming from a stand-up comedy background kind of makes his response to criticism more understandable (but no less stupid), as far as he's concerned every negative comment is just a heckler and better off ignored
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this broken hill posted:imo mulligan coming from a stand-up comedy background kind of makes his response to criticism more understandable (but no less stupid), as far as he's concerned every negative comment is just a heckler and better off ignored
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May 1, 2018 03:18
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whys patrick so dark did he never shower after those years on the streets
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The Worst Unicorn posted:whys patrick so dark did he never shower after those years on the streets Honestly with the character designs I think he's adopted, but it's fairly hard to tell considering how incoherent the comic is.
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May 1, 2018 05:41
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PetraCore posted:He's got to be intriguingly ethnic even if his parents aren't?
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May 1, 2018 10:04
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Not only have the last two pages had some of the worst dialogue I've ever read, they're also boring.
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pospysyl posted:Not only have the last two pages had some of the worst dialogue I've ever read, they're also boring. Repeat for most of the series run and you got my comments about sfp in specific.
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May 1, 2018 19:20
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May 1, 2018 19:46
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pospysyl posted:Not only have the last two pages had some of the worst dialogue I've ever read, they're also boring. This and the table conversation with the professor that went nowhere make me wonder if a lobotomy would be better than reading this garbage.
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May 1, 2018 19:46
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Hitlers Gay Secret posted:This and the table conversation with the professor that went nowhere make me wonder if a lobotomy would be better than reading this garbage. According to the author, it is. Since that is what Alison is doing with PAtrick.
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May 1, 2018 20:11
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i wonder how many pages it'll take for allison to assure patrick how none of this was his fault, but in just a vague enough way that the people in the comments will think it's deep
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May 1, 2018 20:18
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Rand Brittain posted:The story they're currently telling has all the beats of a good story, as the broken young telepath proceeds to break everything even worse. That's a really sideways way of saying "the writing is bad and nothing could possibly redeem it at this point", and I have to assume you phrased it that way because you don't want to admit the writing is bad. Then again, I'm really creeped out by the handling of Anthony Carver in Gunnerkrigg too.
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PetraCore posted:He's got to be intriguingly ethnic even if his parents aren't? I don't see much of a difference in their skin colors, and the art's too janky to try to start drawing conclusions about racial facial features, but the progeny of a woman with light brown hair and a man with kinda reddish hair somehow has black hair. Something's screwy about those genetics.
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May 1, 2018 20:39
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Patrick is supposed to have an unhealthy skin colour. Because he rarely goes outside.
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Nuns with Guns posted:That's a really sideways way of saying "the writing is bad and nothing could possibly redeem it at this point", and I have to assume you phrased it that way because you don't want to admit the writing is bad. Then again, I'm really creeped out by the handling of Anthony Carver in Gunnerkrigg too. Meanwhile in SFP, you get people doing horrible things, a 'sympathetic motive' spoonfed to you, and then characters moving on merrily. It's like Mulligan knows the concept of pathos but like, as defined by TVTropes and stripped of context or skill. Character is sad! Feel bad for character! Now character has DEEP EMOTIONAL PAIN causing TERRIBLE ACTION. Remember when character was sad? Feel sad!! This is made even worse by the fact there's little tonal consistencies so moments that might have potentially been interesting framing in another comic like the deliberate cutting of the panels to hide the dad's body come off as having all the mastery of a baby playing peek-a-boo.
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Nuns with Guns posted:That's a really sideways way of saying "the writing is bad and nothing could possibly redeem it at this point", and I have to assume you phrased it that way because you don't want to admit the writing is bad. Then again, I'm really creeped out by the handling of Anthony Carver in Gunnerkrigg too. This story could be really good, if it were not so bad
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SlothfulCobra posted:I don't see much of a difference in their skin colors, and the art's too janky to try to start drawing conclusions about racial facial features, but the progeny of a woman with light brown hair and a man with kinda reddish hair somehow has black hair. Now that I'm looking about it his eye color exactly matches his mom's hair color so it's probably supposed to be symbolic about how she looked stern but normal to people around her but was actually a soulless sociopath with the eyes of a shark, whereas he was menacing and scary but is actually a sad and wounded soul with puppy eyes. Which is dumb but is enough to make me think she was designed as his biological mother. His darker skin could just be recessive, it's not like skin color works like mixing paint.
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May 1, 2018 20:48
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Paladinus posted:Patrick is supposed to have an unhealthy skin colour. Because he rarely goes outside. i had flux on when i was looking at the pages earlier, now i see he's grey with sadness
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May 1, 2018 21:03
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The whole point of Anthony Carver in GC is that he's a gigantic loving idiot who's trying to help and do the right thing but is so profoundly terrible at this that he almost got tricked by some gods into killing his own daughter. The difference between GC and SFP is that in GC Anthony's backstory is there to provide more insight and flesh out his character. It's not a redemption for what he did and there's nothing wrong with him besides the fact that he's a massive idiot with horrible social skills. SFP wants to have its cake and eat it too by saying people's problems can be fixed by going into their head and forcibly changing their brain.
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May 1, 2018 21:06
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Man Allison must be chomping at the bit to start monologuing Either that or give Patrick a warm, motherly hug
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The Worst Unicorn posted:i had flux on when i was looking at the pages earlier, now i see he's grey with sadness
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May 1, 2018 23:59
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i wish i still enjoyed gunnerkrigg  it was one of the only comics i ever binged, back in like 2008 (it was only about 400 pages then as opposed to ten thousand now but it still took me a while)
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May 2, 2018 00:01
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at least it looks like it might end soon
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PetraCore posted:I think it's handled fine as long as it's not portrayed as making the consequences of his dumbass decisions ok. And I don't think it is framed that way just because he has reasons for being a dumbass. It could be handled better, and I think the deliberately ambiguious framing of blame in a situation that is literally child abuse does a disservice to the characters, but I've never got the feeling that Tom doesn't think how Anthony treats his daughter is damaging and wrong. I find it concerning how none of the adults in Gunnerkrigg have done much to offer support to Annie, who's a 14/15 year old with a father that's at best neglectful, and at worst is super emotionally-abusive. I'd assume Tom knows Anthony is an abusive parent, but like you said I think it does a disservice to have the adults in the story all go "Here's what happened, without commentary, ok next chapter" to a teenage girl who's barely keeping it all together. Maybe it'll all end up like Avengers 200, and sometime in the future Annie will get to tell everyone to go gently caress themselves for letting a literal child try to cope with having her father nearly murder her on accident. But I don't know at this point. SFP fails at a much more basic level by ridiculously flat characters fail at the most convoluted attempts at pathos.
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Nuns with Guns posted:I find it concerning how none of the adults in Gunnerkrigg have done much to offer support to Annie, who's a 14/15 year old with a father that's at best neglectful, and at worst is super emotionally-abusive. I'd assume Tom knows Anthony is an abusive parent, but like you said I think it does a disservice to have the adults in the story all go "Here's what happened, without commentary, ok next chapter" to a teenage girl who's barely keeping it all together. Maybe it'll all end up like Avengers 200, and sometime in the future Annie will get to tell everyone to go gently caress themselves for letting a literal child try to cope with having her father nearly murder her on accident. But I don't know at this point. At least SFP is unintentionally hilarious.
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idk it's a pretty realistic reaction people have to watching a friend of theirs be not-outright-call-the-police-ASAP domestically abusive, it's not the Right Thing To Do but it's an accurate rendering of the most common experience of living with a lovely person, and helped ground the whole magical half-girl-half-fire being raised by a superscientist failed necromancer in techno-Hogwarts thing. I don't think Antimony seeing the adults theoretically in charge fail her is really where GKC fell apart, that's sort of been a motif from the early chapters. contrast to SFP, where incredibly cartoonish over-the-top Lifetime Original abuse is resolved by a dramatic tuck-and-roll escape from a moving vehicle and the psychic mindrape of perpetrator and victim alike A Wizard of Goatse fucked around with this message at 23:31 on May 2, 2018 |
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A Wizard of Goatse posted:idk it's a pretty realistic reaction people have to watching a friend of theirs be not-outright-call-the-police-ASAP domestically abusive, it's not the Right Thing To Do but it's an accurate rendering of the most common experience of living with a lovely person, and helped ground the whole magical half-girl-half-fire being raised by a superscientist failed necromancer in techno-Hogwarts thing. I don't think Antimony seeing the adults theoretically in charge fail her is really where GKC fell apart, that's sort of been a motif from the early chapters. SFP is more ridiculous and poorly-executed on every level, absolutely.
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e: oh gently caress i can't say it
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this broken hill posted:e: oh gently caress i can't say it i got u fam 
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come the gently caress on....
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May 4, 2018 09:45
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this broken hill posted:the mother is my favourite character. she's the true strong female protagonist tbh Condolences. this broken hill posted:"i never felt anything for anyone... until i found out my dumbass son had become the greatest supervillain the world has ever seen! my heart awoke in that moment, and now i know what it is to feel pride, to feel love, to feel lust..." Prescient.
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Cat Mattress posted:Prescient.
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May 4, 2018 12:34
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If I was Allison I'd be slowly backing the gently caress away from this flashback.
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May 4, 2018 13:49
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Too bad the Allison in the comic just seems down with all this. "Mmm interesting I better memorize this for later"
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Why does Patrick have such a hangup on the fact that his dad is dead when he's the one that killed him. Why did he even want his dad dead anyways? Just... there's so much here that makes zero sense when you think about it.
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Mother, take this knife and murder father, or I'll murder you! *five minutes later* omg father is dead ..
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cant cook creole bream posted:Is she faking all of this? That would be pretty clever. It wouldn't make any of the setup good, but in itself that'd be neat.
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