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Nobody would be saying word one about her age if she had a dick. I actively despise Hillary and even I think it's a completely ridiculous complaint, especially considering a lot of the other potential candidates are around the same age and some of them are even older.
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Mister Bates posted:Nobody would be saying word one about her age if she had a dick. I actively despise Hillary and even I think it's a completely ridiculous complaint, especially considering a lot of the other potential candidates are around the same age and some of them are even older. She would be a few years younger than McCain would have been if he were inaugurated, and a year younger than Reagan when he was.
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Apr 16, 2015 21:21
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Series DD Funding posted:She would be a few years younger than McCain would have been if he were inaugurated, and a year younger than Reagan when he was. A lot of it is looks. McCain looked 80 at 72, because of his injuries from torture in Vietnam. Romney looked 50 despite being 65, because he's never had coffee or alcohol. Hillary is 67 and looks 67. With McCain, I remember age being a pretty defining feature of criticism.
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Apr 16, 2015 21:27
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Chamale posted:A lot of it is looks. McCain looked 80 at 72, because of his injuries from torture in Vietnam. Romney looked 50 despite being 65, because he's never had coffee or alcohol. Hillary is 67 and looks 67. With McCain, I remember age being a pretty defining feature of criticism. He also did old-person things like make funny faces and move his lips as though he was speaking when he was actually just agitated. Also his makeup made him look like a blood-drained corpse.
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Apr 16, 2015 21:29
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Chamale posted:A lot of it is looks. McCain looked 80 at 72, because of his injuries from torture in Vietnam. Romney looked 50 despite being 65, because he's never had coffee or alcohol. Hillary is 67 and looks 67. With McCain, I remember age being a pretty defining feature of criticism. The age/health criticisms of McCain were there a bit at the start, but really kicked into high gear when he picked Palin as his VP. The Dems got a lot of mileage out of "a heartbeat away from the presidency" after that.
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Apr 16, 2015 21:32
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Nonsense posted:He also did old-person things like make funny faces and move his lips as though he was speaking when he was actually just agitated. Also his makeup made him look like a blood-drained corpse. And Palin was his running mate.
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McCain was a luddite who's second-in-command was a maniac. There were legitimate reasons to question his age, not just 'funny faces'.
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Good Citizen posted:Man Fiorina's whole thing right now is "wow that Clinton lady sucks huh? It's cool I'm a woman so I can say anything I want about her!" She realized if she gets the VP spot she's gunning for she won't be debating Hilary right? Mister Bates posted:Nobody would be saying word one about her age if she had a dick. I actively despise Hillary and even I think it's a completely ridiculous complaint, especially considering a lot of the other potential candidates are around the same age and some of them are even older. Once again for fun. Hillary is 67 Carly is 60 Trump is 68 Jeb is 62 Perry is 65 Hillary is so loving old guys.
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Apr 16, 2015 21:35
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Atoramos posted:McCain was a luddite who's second-in-command was a maniac. There were legitimate reasons to question his age, not just 'funny faces'. Both mattered because he couldn't hide his beleaguered mind, with a veneer of hollywood-charm, the way Reagan did.
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Apr 16, 2015 21:37
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MC Nietzche posted:There's a fitting analogy here: in the military it's said you can bitch about being a soldier, but you can never say you're going to stop fighting. At least if I was in the military, I'd have to concede that I signed up for it. I'm not saying this thread is entirely like that, just that I've been starting to see that attitude elsewhere. And although I'm not going to bag on someone who votes third party, I'm absolutely angry at people who just don't vote at all.
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Apr 16, 2015 21:41
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Pohl posted:Once again for fun. Perry being 65 and Ted Cruz being 44 is something I still can't wrap my head around. I would have thought they were the same age (mid-50s like I've said before). Amazing. Also, Hillary, being a woman, has a slightly higher life expectancy than a man. Last numbers I saw were 81 for women and 76 for men in the U.S., so a 5 year difference, putting her at about the same effective age as JEB.
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Apr 16, 2015 21:43
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Apr 16, 2015 21:46
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My brain will only let me see Mikael Åkerfeldt from Opeth.
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Apr 16, 2015 21:53
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mdemone posted:My brain will only let me see Mikael Åkerfeldt from Opeth. Does he look like this? 
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Apr 16, 2015 21:54
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"Senator Poon-Hound, reporting for...service."
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Okay, you're going to have to tell me who that is.
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Dolash posted:Okay, you're going to have to tell me who that is. Barack Obama.
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Mister Bates posted:Nobody would be saying word one about her age if she had a dick. I actively despise Hillary and even I think it's a completely ridiculous complaint, especially considering a lot of the other potential candidates are around the same age and some of them are even older. not only that she is statistically more likely to live longer than any other candidate
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I would vote for Jeb if he looked like that on election day.Pohl posted:Once again for fun.
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Dolash posted:Okay, you're going to have to tell me who that is. JEB
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I think someone should bring presidential moustaches back. Maybe Jeb can be that person. Hillary could also maybe be that person.
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So how about Hillary endorsing Warren, huh? That sure is a thing. She seems to be angling early to define this election's theme and I'm actually kind of liking the direction she's taking it.
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ReidRansom posted:I think someone should bring presidential moustaches back. Maybe Jeb can be that person. Hillary could also maybe be that person. Michael Steele 2016
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Nolanar posted:Michael Steele 2016 No Bolton though, that thing looks too much like a toenail cutting.
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Necc0 posted:So how about Hillary endorsing Warren, huh? That sure is a thing. She seems to be angling early to define this election's theme and I'm actually kind of liking the direction she's taking it.
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Mister Bates posted:Nobody would be saying word one about her age if she had a dick. I actively despise Hillary and even I think it's a completely ridiculous complaint, especially considering a lot of the other potential candidates are around the same age and some of them are even older. Oh come now mistah Bates, how can you despise the dowager Clinton?
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I don't know if having a few kind words for a Democratic Senator ghost-written for her and a few trace mentions of income inequality in her early campaign material constitute a leftward shift. At best I'd agree that she'll try and avoid giving progressive Democrats points to attack her on during the primary for fear of discouraging left-leaning voters once she has the nomination. The Trans-Pacific Partnership, for example, is very NAFTA-esque but you probably won't see Clinton say a word on it that she doesn't have to in order to avoid drawing fire.
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FMguru posted:It is interesting. In the 1990s, Democratic candidates usually made a point to distance themselves from their base and play up their Serious Centrist credentials. Even in 2000s, Obama built his message on his (claimed) ability to reach across the aisle and bring Americans all over the political spectrum together. Now, even the Seriousest Centrist of them all finds it necessary (or, at least, expedient) to start her run right in the heart of the party's grassroots faction. It probably has more to do with her figuring the only way she could lose the nomination is if a lefty challenger arises and gets traction, but still - it's a shift. Yeah, I'm really hoping and praying that we are going to see a left wing campaign by her. poo poo, her announcement had a bunch of gays and women and non white people. Cross your fingers for the chance that she just runs her campaign that way. We can all wash in the tears of conservatives if she does.
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Hillary flying coach feels like the fakest poo poo ever even though she did actually do it.
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Taibbi's not buying it: Campaign 2016: Hillary Clinton's Fake Populism Is a Hitquote:"Hillary Clinton's Wall Street Backers: We Get It," announced Politico, which polled Democrat-leaning Wall Streeters about the anti-wealthy rhetoric and reassured us that none of them took her seriously.
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Yeah, she's basically running for Obama's third term. People who supported the first two shouldn't really have a problem with that. She's not going for the same appeal as the Democrats did in the 90s because the party has changed in the last 20 years. Also, the campaign announced tonight that they've hired former CFTC director, and drafter of Dodd-Frank, Gary Gensler as their CFO. Joementum fucked around with this message at 01:09 on Apr 17, 2015 |
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Is there a general prediction on the nominee for the GOP. It seems many make Jeb inevitable or Walker.
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Is there ever a chance to elect a candidate who actually cares about poverty or is that just a pipe dream?
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GreyPowerVan posted:Is there ever a chance to elect a candidate who actually cares about poverty or is that just a pipe dream? 
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Is there a general prediction on the nominee for the GOP. It seems many make Jeb inevitable or Walker. Here is what 5dimes has up right now  Go forth goons and make some quasi legal money.
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Is there a general prediction on the nominee for the GOP. It seems many make Jeb inevitable or Walker. Jeb has the establishment locked up. Walker has the centrist Republicans who need tea part appeal. Cruz has the crazies and is all-in to win. Paul jumped in too late and is no longer a serious candidate. Christie's lost the ability to win. My take on Rubio is that he'll be the Al Gore of the Republican primaries. Everyone else, they'll have one slim, very very slim, moment to shine, most of whom won't be able to know they had their moment until the time has passed.
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Is there a general prediction on the nominee for the GOP. It seems many make Jeb inevitable or Walker. There's as many Mitt Romneys this year as Herman Cains, so they might eat at each other's base enough to get a crazy nominated . There's no way in hell it's gonna be Scott Walker though, he makes Mitt Romney seem like a Kennedy (in terms of charisma, not policy, but probably that too). GreyPowerVan posted:Is there ever a chance to elect a candidate who actually cares about poverty or is that just a pipe dream? Ahahahahaha. *bursts into tears*
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Skwirl posted:Ahahahahaha. *bursts into tears*  I know, I know. Sometimes I think maybe we all can rise above this petty nonsense, but then I feel the boot of crushing poverty resume its normal place on the back of my neck.
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GreyPowerVan posted:Is there ever a chance to elect a candidate who actually cares about poverty or is that just a pipe dream? Resurrect LBJ or FDR Enigma89 posted:Hillary flying coach feels like the fakest poo poo ever even though she did actually do it. You were considering voting for Rand Paul, the fakiest fake since the dawn of fake.
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